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Title: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: mdv2000 on March 13, 2009, 06:30:12 PM
I have an Amiga 500 with Revision 5 and KickRom 1.2 - can I just order a 1.3 and change it out using a chip puller?

Thanks
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: x303 on March 13, 2009, 06:57:15 PM
You should be able to do that, but you still lack the workbench 1.3 disk.
If you like os 1.3 that much, why not consider buying a Minimig (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=777) ?

[color=ff0000]x303[/color] :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: Jope on March 13, 2009, 08:43:29 PM
The wb1.3 disk doesn't really matter much, does it.. ;-)

But yeah, you just swap it in and that's it.
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: Piru on March 13, 2009, 09:00:51 PM
BTW Workbench 1.3 works just fine with KS 1.2.

The only reason to get KS 1.3 over 1.2 is to have working AUTOCONFIG(TM). KS 1.2 has is broken due to a silly bug (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/why_ks_1.3.txt). As far as I can tell that is about the only change in 1.2 to 1.3. As usual it was marketed as an upgrade.
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: Flashlab on March 13, 2009, 09:14:10 PM
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Piru wrote:
As usual it was marketed as an upgrade.


C= marketing people had to eat too, you know...
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: Thomas on March 13, 2009, 10:04:27 PM

The must be at least one more change, because printer.device of WB 1.3 does not run on Kick 1.2. It just crashes.

Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: CLS2086 on March 14, 2009, 10:09:29 AM
I heard that some very very old need KS 1.2 to works well...
KS 1.2 is quite unusual, try to get a kickswitcher and put both rom on it.
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: x303 on March 14, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
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CLS2086 wrote:
try to get a kickswitcher and put both rom on it.

If you're gonna use a kickswitcher, why not put the 1.3 and 2.04 roms in ?

Or 2.05 and 3.1. :crazy:

[color=ff0000]x303[/color] :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: mdv2000 on March 14, 2009, 02:38:11 PM
Does anyone know where I can get a Kickswitcher?  I like the idea of supporting more than ROM.
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: Lockon_15 on March 14, 2009, 03:58:30 PM
http://www.amigamaniac.com/ksrs.html
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: quarkx on March 14, 2009, 05:09:17 PM
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x303 wrote:
You should be able to do that, but you still lack the workbench 1.3 disk.
If you like os 1.3 that much, why not consider buying a Minimig (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=777) ?

The Minimig is NOT an A500 to a lot of people, close, but no cigar. It lacks all of the charm that an A500 has to offer, and is similar to a placebo in nature. When the real things are so cheap to pick up, why anyone would want a knock off at 4X (or more) the price of an A500, and not even finished, is just plain crazy in my mind. But hey, maybe I am missing something here.
I would say the same thing about the A1000. The A1000 is NOT the A500, Although similar in nature, the 2 have completely different users.
Sorry, I am starting to hijack the thread.
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: x303 on March 14, 2009, 06:55:57 PM
@quarkx

Sorry if I offended you. I myself own an a500 too !!! But, if I had to choose now (in 2009) between an a500 and a minimig I know what I want. And yes, the minimig might not be finished yet, but it can only get better.

[color=ff0000]x303[/color] :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: quarkx on March 14, 2009, 07:07:10 PM
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x303 wrote:
@quarkx

Sorry if I offended you. I myself own an a500 too !!! But, if I had to choose now (in 2009) between an a500 and a minimig I know what I want. And yes, the minimig might not be finished yet, but it can only get better.

[color=ff0000]x303[/color] :-D  :-D  :-D


No prob :-P
I wasn't offended, but the minimig is a whole different machine, that's all. it can't be compared to an A500 (or any Amiga model) in any way. It on EMULATES the roms (and the WHOLE hardware for that matter), it (for what ever reason the creator's chose) does not have actual,physical Roms, and therefore can not be evenly close, used to comparison. A person would be better off to use winAUE, because it amounts to the same thing, and WinAUE is a LOT cheaper.
Title: Re: A500 - From 1.2 to 1.3 Rom
Post by: Rebel-CD32 on March 14, 2009, 10:42:14 PM
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Lockon_15 wrote:
http://www.amigamaniac.com/ksrs.html


I have both the V1 and the V2 of these Kickstart switchers in an A500 and A600 and they're both excellent! And the A1200 I'm using right now has some EPROMs from the same site, working perfectly. :)

For an A500, I recommend you keep the 1.2 ROM and get a 3.1, and have them both on the Kickstart switcher. There's no need for 2.x if you can get 3.1 ROMs for the same price.