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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: DiskDoctor on March 10, 2009, 09:16:51 PM
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I need help.
Just downloaded VmwAROS Live distribution, burned it on a CD and tried to boot it.
On a boot selection regardless what I pick, nothing happens. I mean either screen goes black or after IDE scanning it halts.
I tried to check my GFX card, it turned out to not have a driver installed :-) :-) so I installed one. I turned to have Intel XP 945GME card, having 256 MB memory shared with RAM which smells some SoC or something (it's a notebook).
On AROS requirements (http://aros.sourceforge.net/documentation/users/installation.php#id1) site it states that "A VESA-compliant VGA card is recommended". It says nothing to me, It seems as a "No" answer.
So I need to make one thing clear; I won't run AROS on my machine, will I?
Many thanks in advance.
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DiskDoctor wrote:
I need help.
Just downloaded VmwAROS Live distribution, burned it on a CD and tried to boot it.
I think you meant DVD ?
Or you grabbed an really old version...
On a boot selection regardless what I pick, nothing happens. I mean either screen goes black or after IDE scanning it halts.
Use VGA screenmode to see more Debug output.
Make a photo and post ist here.
Give some more Hardware Info.
A simple "It does not work" will not help Developers finding the Bugs.
I tried to check my GFX card, it turned out to not have a driver installed :-) :-) so I installed one. I turned to have Intel XP 945GME card, having 256 MB memory shared with RAM which smells some SoC or something (it's a notebook).
:-? :-? :-? :-? :-?
On AROS requirements (http://aros.sourceforge.net/documentation/users/installation.php#id1) site it states that "A VESA-compliant VGA card is recommended". It says nothing to me, It seems as a "No" answer.
Well, it is not supposed to say anything. Its a graphics standard... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=VESA+graphics)
So I need to make one thing clear; I won't run AROS on my machine, will I?
If you dont change your way to ask for help and to write bug reports, then the answer to you question is yes.
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You can try to run VmwAros on a virtual machine.
You need to download VmwAros VE and install VMware Player or similar virtualization software. The chances to get Aros running are much better in this case...
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Hi DiskDoctor, here are some answers:
- if you have burned VmwAROS 1.0 or 1.0.2 on a CD-ROM, well, you probably have thrown away a CD: you need a DVD to do that.
- VESA is a standard for graphic cards, I can't make a list of hundreds of different vendors chipsets that supports it. However, you're "lucky": Intel failed following this standard in a proper ways many times, so maybe you have better using a discrete Nvidia or ATI card (they both work in VESA modes, when native driver ones fail).
- have you tried "emergency mode" kernel? what does it happens?
- have your tried VGA modes? What are the latest messages you can read on the screen?
- have you tried disabling the floppy controller from BIOS? this sometimes helped booting
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what version of VmwAROS are you using? I need at least the version number to help you a little more.
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@ Heinz
I think you meant DVD ?
Yes I meant DVD.
Use VGA screenmode to see more Debug output.
Make a photo and post ist here.
Give some more Hardware Info.
I get this (http://multidodatki.nazwa.pl/trace.jpg).
EDIT* I forgot, hardware - hp 530, not sure about some types:
Intel Celeron M 1,86 MHz, 1GB (?)RAM, Mobile Intel XP 945 graphics, 80 GB (?)HDD
:-? :-? :-? :-? :-?
What I meant was that I got Intel XP 945GME card, having 256 MB memory shared with RAM which never looks good.
A simple "It does not work" will not help Developers finding the Bugs.
(...)
So I need to make one thing clear; I won't run AROS on my machine, will I?
If you dont change your way to ask for help and to write bug reports, then the answer to you question is yes.
It was not a "simple doesn't work". I quoted some information, in order to post more further e.g. if asked and specified. Please, don't be ironic. I asked for help, not for teaching me what I should or shouldn't do. Maybe you mistake this forum for a SCM system... Well, it's not a SCM system, people still have freedom to describe stuff here their own way. I quoted graphic card specs you declared as not understood. How do you know what information I provided then??
@ jagoche
You can try to run VmwAros on a virtual machine.
Thanks for help, I'll try this in a meantime.
@ paolone
- if you have burned VmwAROS 1.0 or 1.0.2 on a CD-ROM, well, you probably have thrown away a CD: you need a DVD to do that.
I should have said DVD. 1.0.2 image is about 1G so it wouldn't fit on a CD :-)
- VESA is a standard for graphic cards, I can't make a list of hundreds of different vendors chipsets that supports it. However, you're "lucky": Intel failed following this standard in a proper ways many times, so maybe you have better using a discrete Nvidia or ATI card (they both work in VESA modes, when native driver ones fail).
You mean to change my graphic card? It's a notebook I wish not to change anything in it.
- have you tried "emergency mode" kernel? what does it happens?
Blank screen.
Same VESA GFx 1280x1024 32bpp - but this works when started by a Windows script.
- have your tried VGA modes? What are the latest messages you can read on the screen?
Both VGAs - logging halts after discovering non-existent floppy (Disabled from booting). See here (http://multidodatki.nazwa.pl/trace.jpg).
- have you tried disabling the floppy controller from BIOS? this sometimes helped booting
I disabled it from booting.
what version of VmwAROS are you using? I need at least the version number to help you a little more.
README says it's VmwAROS Live! 1.0.2.
This whole thing looks an odd graphic SoC-type card to me.
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There is a lot of "disabled" in your first picture. If you have a "plug & play os" setting in bios try to set it to NO. I have to set this to NO in my AROS machine otherwise nothing works.
Another thing is to try the legacy setting that lets sata be recognized as ide.
Hope you'll get it going.
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DiskDoctor wrote:
@ Heinz
I get this (http://multidodatki.nazwa.pl/trace.jpg).
It seems that ata.device has problems with your chipset.
This debug output looks very similar to what I have on my notebook.
(vmwAROS 1.0.2 does not work on my notebook too.)
Just try todays nightly build ISO. (http://aros.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/nightly-download?20090311/Binaries/AROS-20090311-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip)
That one will possibly boot.
What I meant was that I got Intel XP 945GME card, having 256 MB memory shared with RAM which never looks good.
Well you wrote something about installing drivers, wich does not make sense when you cant even boot AROS.
And installing Drivers on Windows wouldnt help too..
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I have a CD in the laptop I want to use and the bloody thing is too stupid to boot from USB port or a DVD drive in another computer in the network. Who makes this crap, Mac can boot from almost anything....
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I have a similar poblem on my Thinkpad T23. The DVD will boot until the screenmode-choice. Then I can choose whatever, including Emergency-Boot. Except of some noises from the DVD-player nothing more happens...
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What about trying the latest nightly build from www.aros.org ?
I used that to install AROS on my notebook and I am now copying all the good stuff from the vmwAROS DVD to the Hardrive :)
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Hi, sometimes BIOS settings conflict with VmwAROS 1.0.2. I'm working on Icaros Desktop 1.1, and I hope to find a way to fix most of them. In the meanwhile, please try this:
1. be sure your eide hdd and cdrom are wired and connected correctly
MOBO Master0 ============ SLAVE:DVDROM === MASTER:primary HDD
2. that you are installing AROS on master 0 (first channel eide)
3. if you have UHCI USB controller, disable it if you can. UHCI makes VmwAROS 1.0.2 crash
4. try toggling "legacy USB support" in your BIOS
5. try toggling SATA controllers on and off in your bios
6. try toggling Floppy controller on and off in your bios
7. follow the procedure described in VmwAROS manual.