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Title: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 06, 2009, 09:48:21 AM
OK, So I ordered a Buddha for my Amiga2000; but the instructions are scant...at best and I can't find any FAQ's on the web.

I've plugged in the Buddha, attached a 40pin CF-IDE adapter and put on a 2GB CF card.

My Buddha can't see it; at least not using HDToolbox that is. Strangely enough when the bus is scanning for devices using the HDToolBox, the led on the CF adapter goes mad; indicating that it can be 'seen' and 'spoken' too.

But alas I dont get the option to partition up the CF card, and therefore dont get the option to install WB.

The A2K has 4MB RAM, 1MB Chip, it's a REV6.2 running ROM3.1.

Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: keropi on March 06, 2009, 09:59:30 AM
propably a bad adapter/cf combo... ahve you tried another?
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: StarejMraf on March 06, 2009, 10:05:06 AM
Buddha doesn´t work with any CF-IDE adapters. But e.g. Transcend ide flash disk work correctly.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: pyrre on March 06, 2009, 10:19:25 AM
What WB version do you have?
My cf adapters are not seen by HDtoolbox from os 3.0/3.1
But it is very well seen from OS3.9s HDToolbox...
After 3.9 has partitioned the cf card it is shown by any WB and i can format the partitions.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 06, 2009, 10:49:42 AM
Nah only got the one, another is on the way from Hong Kong, quite possibly on a slow boat...
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 06, 2009, 10:52:26 AM
WB3.1, I have WB3.5 on CD, but need to get the Buddha working to take advantage of that.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on March 06, 2009, 04:33:19 PM
The Buddha ignores camera flash cards. The only alternative is to buy an "industrial" CF card or to tell the card to identify itself as a hard drive, using a small MS-DOS program. This works with Sandisk cards, I don't know if it works with other brands.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: blanning on March 06, 2009, 06:50:26 PM
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Iggy_Drougge wrote:
The Buddha ignores camera flash cards. The only alternative is to buy an "industrial" CF card or to tell the card to identify itself as a hard drive, using a small MS-DOS program. This works with Sandisk cards, I don't know if it works with other brands.


Do you have a link to that msdos program?  I'll be doing a similar project this weekend.

brian
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: tnt23 on March 06, 2009, 07:40:46 PM
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StarejMraf wrote:
Buddha doesn´t work with any CF-IDE adapters. But e.g. Transcend ide flash disk work correctly.


My configuration on 3000 for quite some time consisted of mounting bracket CF-IDE hooked to Buddha. I remember I had to use either HDInstTools or some other HDToolBox from a Buddha floppy, since the CF didn't show up with original HDToolBox.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Marcb on March 06, 2009, 09:39:37 PM
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tnt23 wrote:
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StarejMraf wrote:
Buddha doesn´t work with any CF-IDE adapters. But e.g. Transcend ide flash disk work correctly.


My configuration on 3000 for quite some time consisted of mounting bracket CF-IDE hooked to Buddha. I remember I had to use either HDInstTools or some other HDToolBox from a Buddha floppy, since the CF didn't show up with original HDToolBox.


I've got two CF cards running off a Buddha: one in Amiga 2000 and the other in an Amiga 3000.... I don't remember doing anything special to set them up other than partitioning and formatting them both with WinUae...
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on March 06, 2009, 11:11:56 PM
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Marcb wrote:
I've got two CF cards running off a Buddha: one in Amiga 2000 and the other in an Amiga 3000.... I don't remember doing anything special to set them up other than partitioning and formatting them both with WinUae...

It would be interesting to know what cards you're using, since most people are having problem with Buddha and CF.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Marcb on March 06, 2009, 11:21:39 PM
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Iggy_Drougge wrote:
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Marcb wrote:
I've got two CF cards running off a Buddha: one in Amiga 2000 and the other in an Amiga 3000.... I don't remember doing anything special to set them up other than partitioning and formatting them both with WinUae...

It would be interesting to know what cards you're using, since most people are having problem with Buddha and CF.


Hmmm... Well, I'm not going to be much help then because both are  4gb 'DSE' Compact Flash cards, DSE is a chain of Australian electronics retail stores... I assume they buy them from an o/s supplier and rebadge them, but how to find out the original brand???


DSE LINK (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/49b1b0220cbe82642740c0a87e01070b/Product/View/XG4901)
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 07, 2009, 03:16:33 AM
Well I've just gone out and bought a 160GB PATA HDD; dropped it in and connected up first time. And given the MASSIVE price difference between CF and an IDE drive, based upon storage, I reckon I've made the right decision.

8GB CF = 160GB IDE; with 20 bucks spare :)
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Marcb on March 07, 2009, 09:22:15 AM
That's great, the Buddha is up and running then?
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on March 07, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
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Marcb wrote:
4gb 'DSE' Compact Flash cards, DSE is a chain of Australian electronics retail stores... I assume they buy them from an o/s supplier and rebadge them, but how to find out the original brand???


Perhaps it says in HDtoolbox.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on March 07, 2009, 09:10:08 PM
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mchaggis wrote:
Well I've just gone out and bought a 160GB PATA HDD; dropped it in and connected up first time. And given the MASSIVE price difference between CF and an IDE drive, based upon storage, I reckon I've made the right decision.


Funny, I'm usually looking for as small cards as possible for my "spare" Amigas. I don't need more than a hundred megabytes on my A600, and filling a 160 GB drive on any 68k Amiga is going to be a challenge.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Marcb on March 07, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
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Iggy_Drougge wrote:
Perhaps it says in HDtoolbox.




Just checked, it just read the manufacturer name as 'Generic' :-(
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 07, 2009, 11:53:23 PM
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Iggy_Drougge wrote:

Funny, I'm usually looking for as small cards as possible for my "spare" Amigas. I don't need more than a hundred megabytes on my A600, and filling a 160 GB drive on any 68k Amiga is going to be a challenge.


Well the plan is that it doesn't stay a base model 68k Amiga...  :-)

I partitioned the HD up to as close to 4GB as I could, but right at the very end of a long format operation. It stopped and said the HDD was not a DOS Disk; and now the drive is stuck "validating". Which is annoying.

Any suggestions on 'validating' the hdd? I dont want to repartition and format it again; that took AGES!
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on March 08, 2009, 02:05:04 AM
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mchaggis wrote:
I partitioned the HD up to as close to 4GB as I could, but right at the very end of a long format operation. It stopped and said the HDD was not a DOS Disk; and now the drive is stuck "validating". Which is annoying.

Any suggestions on 'validating' the hdd? I dont want to repartition and format it again; that took AGES!

Ages? Partitioning a hard drive shouldn't take more than ten minutes.
As for partitioning, I'd suggest you make several partitions under the 4 GB limit, so you can have several boot partitions (if not for different OSes then simply for having a bootable backup).
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 08, 2009, 02:20:48 AM
Oh, the partition was instant. The format was several hours.

I'll take your advice and go a 1GB parition for booting; and slice the rest up for storage of apps and games.

What's giving me trouble is getting WB3.1 installed on the HDD; then installing the Buddha drives for the CD ROM; which will then let me get WB3.5 installed.

First hurdle is the dodgy partition.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: doctorq on March 08, 2009, 06:29:01 AM
As OS3.1 only takes up around 6 MB of storage space, and OS3.5 around 25-30 MB, I suggest that you make your boot partition only around 200-250 MB. It will still give you plenty of additional storage on the boot drive.

As for the format taking a long time; use quick format instead. There is no need to do a normal format on your harddrive.
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Methuselas on March 08, 2009, 06:47:29 AM
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doctorq wrote:


As for the format taking a long time; use quick format instead. There is no need to do a normal format on your harddrive.


I was about to mention this, but Q beat me to it. Frakking ninjas!  :lol:
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 08, 2009, 01:30:27 PM
OK now I'm mad as hell; after all manner of grief, including the corruption of the CF card that runs my A1200; I've got the HDD formatted and installed WB3.1.

Oh and for giggles my WB3.1 Install disk died...not fun.

So anyways , several hours later i get around to installing the Buddha software and it helpfully, NOT!!!!!, checks the size of my HDD before installing. And predictably uses a 4bit datatype to hold the int size of the HDD. So it then says you have -9999999999999 gazillion bytes left on your HDD, and I couldnt possibly install in that space.. XXX#$#$#####!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feel the anger!!!!!!!

So what do i do now?!? The alcohol hasnt helped.

 :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:

For some reason I feel compelled to install the Buddha software, help me Amigan's!
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: Methuselas on March 08, 2009, 07:24:05 PM
Okay. From what I remember from my MK2 (and we're talking 12+ years), you *HAD* to use the buddha HD tools to install a drive bigger than 4GB. This was before OS 3.5 was out, so it's probably something to do with the <4GB barrier of OS3.1. I know that the Buddha, itself, handles the barrier problem.  

I seem to remember that I had to install the buddha install disk, first, which wasn't a problem as I was using the SCSI off my A3000, initially. You may have to use a "boot drive" to install and format the drive. Format it, plain jane. Don't give your boot partition a boot priority, until you know you can format the entire drive, successfully.

Also, check the Individual Computers website and shoot a message to Jens. He's a great guy and wonderful to talk to. He'll do anything he can, to get his products working for you. They may have updated software for the Buddha.

I wish I could help more, but I haven't had or used a Buddha in years. I will tell you, though, that it's a great piece of tech.

Sorry you're having so many problems..... :-(
Title: Re: Buddha. How To???!??
Post by: mchaggis on March 09, 2009, 09:19:03 AM
We’re all up and running, OS3.1 on the new HDD plus a functional CDROM. The trick was the small DH0, which I set at 400MB; and a 2GB data partition.

Dont quite know what I’ll do with the remaining 157GB :-D

I guess I’ll find a use with the 68040 accelerator that I won on eBay today.

Thanks for all your help. I'm sure I'll need more when the accelerator arrives  :-)