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Title: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 05, 2009, 07:13:18 PM
I have been successfully using a 512MB no name CF for a while, so I decided to get something bigger. Reading on forums I found out that 2gig and 4gig Transcend compact flash cards (x133) work great, so I decided to go for an 8gig. I mean, what could go wrong?

Short answer: everything :(

Long answer:

I tried to do various things, create partitions of various sizes (even smaller than 1 gig), and tried both FAT and FAT32 formats - absolutely no luck.

Sometimes when I remove the CF from the PCMCIA adapter, it gives me some error in German.

Anything else I could do before I chuck them into the bin*?

Thank you in advance!


E'Blue


*Metaphorically
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 07:20:57 PM
Where you sticking it?

1) PCMCIA slot
2) Internal IDE

I had had problems with the PCMCIA slot until I removed my trapdoor expansion card.

Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 07:25:34 PM
That would be the PCMCIA then...

Sorry didn't read all your text (was on my iPhone).
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 05, 2009, 07:27:41 PM
I do have a 4meg expansion card in the trap door, but afaik its compatible with the PCMCIA port, hence, I have been using a 512MB card with the pcmcia adapter previously.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 07:29:13 PM
I had the exact same German error despite the CF not showing in Workbench. The card is being picked up but just not that extra bit.

Like I said before try removing anything in the trapdoor, think mine is a 1Gb Transcend card had that showed up once my fast RAM was removed.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 07:30:22 PM
Remove it. I'm in the same boat - 4Mb shouldn't knock out the PCMCIA slot but it was an issue for me.

I'll try and find the post on EAB which prompted me to try it.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 05, 2009, 07:33:30 PM
Alright, I will remove the card and try again. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 07:34:03 PM
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=40746&highlight=transcend (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=40746&highlight=transcend)

Scroll down and have a read... list of those that work with a trapdoor card and those that do not.

Had this all last month hence why it's still fresh in my head.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 05, 2009, 07:47:52 PM
I removed the board as you suggested, no difference :(

It still doesnt come up in workbench, and when I remove the card... BANG - German error!


 :-(
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 07:50:02 PM
Grrr.

Open up Workbench >> Tools (I think) >> Format

The Format program should pop up and list all the drives there on yor machine; do you have a CF0: and CC0:?


Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: voyager on February 05, 2009, 08:03:07 PM
can you please post the error you are getting?
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 05, 2009, 08:16:33 PM
Here you go:

DISK " "
Zu Fruh Entnommen!
wiederholen /aAbrechen
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: voyager on February 05, 2009, 09:28:44 PM
how do I translate this.. Disk is removed to soon? retry / abort
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 09:32:58 PM
Plug it all together, switch it on and leave it for an hour - perhaps Workbench is just taking a while to address the size of the card.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: CLS2086 on February 05, 2009, 09:37:27 PM
Well,
what can PrepCard tell you ?  ;-)
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 05, 2009, 09:41:50 PM
Sorry, where do I find prepcard?
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 09:49:19 PM
It's in Workbench >> Systems >> PrepCard

If you run the program and right-click menu their is an advanced screen.

Mine would show the CF reader and card but wouldn't let me prep the card as system ram or storage - failed to write error or something.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 05, 2009, 09:50:46 PM
Did you try the format program in tools? It should list you all the devices and if it can see a car in CF0: it shows the size of the volume in k - which hopefully means it can see the true volume.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 06, 2009, 05:11:44 PM
Ok - I tried some stuff:

PREPCARD: This detects the CF (including its name!), but when I select FORMAT, it says something along the lines of "Disk is write protected".

FORMAT: Both CC0: and CF0: are listed but the sizes are weird, like 20k and 0k.

Side note: I have IDEFIX installed.

Any ideas what I could do to get my CF working?

Cheers


E'Blue
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: gurthuk on February 06, 2009, 05:25:20 PM
Everything is identical to me and my problems.

I resorted to buying a known good card from Amigakit, I think you're gong to have to settle knowing the card just isn't compatible.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 06, 2009, 05:29:07 PM
:( This sucks. I wanted an 8gb card thats why I bought this one. Amigakit only sell 1gb cards.

So, my "last hope" is that I use it internally once I receive the IDE to CF adapter which is in the post.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Linde on February 06, 2009, 06:21:58 PM
How are you even going to fill that huge card with Amiga stuff?
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 06, 2009, 06:28:48 PM
With nearly 6 gigs of WHDLoad Games - the whole collection.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: CLS2086 on February 07, 2009, 05:23:30 PM
Quote
FORMAT: Both CC0: and CF0:


Ohhh !!! You MUST NOT have the CC0: icon !
Go in the DosDriver drawer and kick it away, it can cause you a conflict has both CC0 and CF0 try to get access at the same ressource
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 08, 2009, 08:58:48 AM
I dont ahve that icon... its just listed if I use the FORMAT: software.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: CLS2086 on February 08, 2009, 09:11:42 AM
So, check it (on a PC) if it's formated in FAT(FAT16b) or FAT32 or NTFS mode.
Do you use MSD or FAT95 on your amiga ?
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: delshay on February 08, 2009, 09:15:31 AM
what about card reset .
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 08, 2009, 01:06:22 PM
Ok here is an update....

I installed an updated version of compactflash.device (from aminet) and now the Amiga detects the card (Yesssss!!!!!)

Two remaining problems:

1. The card is not detected if I switch on the Amiga with the CF in the slot. If I do, I have to remove and re-insert.

2. I created a number of partitions (on the PC) on the CF, but the Amiga only sees the first partition.

Any ideas how to fix 1 and 2 :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: delshay on February 08, 2009, 01:33:45 PM
Quote

Everblue wrote:
Ok here is an update....

I installed an updated version of compactflash.device (from aminet) and now the Amiga detects the card (Yesssss!!!!!)

Two remaining problems:

1. The card is not detected if I switch on the Amiga with the CF in the slot. If I do, I have to remove and re-insert.

2. I created a number of partitions (on the PC) on the CF, but the Amiga only sees the first partition.

Any ideas how to fix 1 and 2 :)

Thanks!


as stated in my last post you need a reset signal its missing on all A1200 motherboard,you have to add this in hardware but i think there also a software that can reset the PCMCIA port.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 08, 2009, 01:35:20 PM
But with another CF (512MB), it works even if I boot the A1200 with the card inserted....
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: delshay on February 08, 2009, 01:58:12 PM
Quote

Everblue wrote:
But with another CF (512MB), it works even if I boot the A1200 with the card inserted....


insert the card and turn your A1200 on you will not see the CF card.

if you pull the card out & then reinsert the card without a reset the amiga will then see the card regardless of what type of card is in the slot.

a hardware or software is required to fix the problem.
Title: Re: My A1200 does not like my CF - anything I could do?
Post by: Everblue on February 08, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
Quote

delshay wrote:
Quote

Everblue wrote:
But with another CF (512MB), it works even if I boot the A1200 with the card inserted....


insert the card and turn your A1200 on you will not see the CF card.

if you pull the card out & then reinsert the card without a reset the amiga will then see the card regardless of what type of card is in the slot.

a hardware or software is required to fix the problem.


If I insert the 512MB and switch on the A1200, WB will "see it". But doing the same thing with the 8GB CF, it wont. BTW, I have Amigakit's software installed.