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Title: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: amazing on February 01, 2009, 11:15:13 PM
wow i was amazed by this great demo and specialy the music in it

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=-_j_8BG6WrE&feature=related
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: tribz on February 01, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
Impressive, not seen that one before.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: amazing on February 01, 2009, 11:28:33 PM
found this on the ada for a full download to play it on the real thing :P

http://ada.untergrund.net/showdemo.php?demoid=195
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Quagmire on February 01, 2009, 11:37:29 PM
That's one of my favorites, Rise by TRSI and Relic by Nerve Axis are also good
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: DoogUK on February 01, 2009, 11:38:33 PM
Amazing, i'd like to see a 17 yr old pc do that  :lol:
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: mikrucio on February 02, 2009, 03:49:44 AM
you gotta be kidding? right? sure a 17 year old pc couldnt. but I dont see any relevance to your logic.

I mean how many people actually use 17 year old pc's?
right now? maybe what 1% of the population...

So 99% of the population has a better computer than you.

If you wanna see demos goto scene.org and check out the latest PC demos. blow's ALL Amiga demo's ever made out of the water.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: ajlwalker on February 02, 2009, 03:57:39 AM
@mikrucio

You think your post had logic?

 :crazy:
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: mikrucio on February 02, 2009, 04:00:35 AM
yes. your gay.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: DoogUK on February 02, 2009, 07:31:37 AM
Thanks for stating the obvious...i was blissfuly unaware  :lol:

Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Triton199 on February 02, 2009, 07:58:27 AM
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you gotta be kidding? right? sure a 17 year old pc couldnt. but I dont see any relevance to your logic.
the fact that a 17 year old PC cant but a 17 year old AMIGA can? seems pretty relavant to me
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: DoogUK on February 02, 2009, 08:06:16 AM
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Triton199 wrote:
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you gotta be kidding? right? sure a 17 year old pc couldnt. but I dont see any relevance to your logic.
the fact that a 17 year old PC cant but a 17 year old AMIGA can? seems pretty relavant to me


My point exactly, it shows how the amiga was way ahead of anything else at the time.

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Post by: Lorraine on February 02, 2009, 08:14:18 AM
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Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Piru on February 02, 2009, 08:19:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aoIsWxGWHQ
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: DoogUK on February 02, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
Now that one IS impressive Piru!
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Ruud on February 02, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
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mikrucio wrote:
yes. your gay.


I find your post quite offensive.
It should be "you're gay" not "your gay"  :lol:
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: pVC on February 02, 2009, 10:39:34 AM
But if he wants to be your gay?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbsp-wTYx-U
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Revener on February 02, 2009, 11:03:10 AM
I've never really been that impressed by PC demos considering the hardware they can get if thy want......

Now good demos on a set piece of hardware like amiga or on a console, that push what the hardware can do thats impressive.

Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Ruud on February 02, 2009, 11:03:23 AM
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pVC wrote:
But if he wants to be your gay?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbsp-wTYx-U


True, he might have meant that  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Britelite on February 02, 2009, 11:03:35 AM
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DoogUK wrote:
Amazing, i'd like to see a 17 yr old pc do that  :lol:


Not to be a nitpicker here, but the demo isn't running on a vanilla A1200, but requires an 040/060 accelerator to run smoothly, so let's say 15-16 year old PC. The Pentium was released in 1993 (16 years ago), so at least I've seen just as impressive stuff on 16 year old PC ;)
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Crumb on February 02, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
@mikrucio

I think you don't understand what demoscene is about. Demoscene is about using all the features of your machine and breaking limits, not about comparing classics with modern demos.

BTW, art is art regardless of the media used. Following the logic of some people oil-paints are rubbish because a photograph may be more realist.

I have watched c64 demos that are better than Amiga ones and it doesn't mean a c64 is better. It's just a mixture of artistic sense and outstanding coding skills.

There are drawings done with a pencil by artists hundreds of years ago that will always be better than some 3D raytraced image. And that is due to design and style.

You have to keep in mind the date and platform when a production is released. It's the same as music: Kraftwerk was revolutionary but an Elektro group now won't be revolutionary or amazing regardless of having "cleaner" sound or better instruments.

Your comment sounds like an idiot laughing of Da Vinci's art claiming he can take better pictures with his 100$ digital camera.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: ajlwalker on February 02, 2009, 11:11:23 AM

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mikrucio wrote:
yes. your gay.


Coming from a guy with an avatar like that!  :lol:
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: ajlwalker on February 02, 2009, 11:15:35 AM
@ crumb

That's well said crumb.

I remember years ago in a newsagent two young kids were laughing at the graphics in a C64 magazine.

I stepped in and pointed out the machine was older than them, and that in a few years time there'll be little boys laughing at the graphics on their nintendo whateveritwas.

No respect.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: persia on February 02, 2009, 12:21:27 PM
If one looks at the demo out of context it's old and simplistic, if one looks at the demo and realises that it's a 17 year old computer with the computing power of a wristwatch then it becomes more impressive.  

In the end it will only be retro freaks who will appreciate them.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: klx300r on February 02, 2009, 03:02:59 PM
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persia wrote:
...
In the end it will only be retro freaks who will appreciate them.


aka 'nerds' :lol:
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: amazing on February 02, 2009, 03:37:56 PM
also can u see a pc doing a demo in just 1.3 mb? like this?

thats what always impressed me of the amiga the amount of space it uses for great games and demo's
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: persia on February 02, 2009, 03:48:36 PM
Do space even matter anymore?  I've got a couple Terrabyte of storage that is currently less than half full.  Most people have some sort of broadband connection and video can easily be streamed.  Even when I'm running GPRS rather than wifi or hsdpa on my iPhone it's still faster than the old despised dialup modems of the past.


Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Piru on February 02, 2009, 04:24:14 PM
@amazing
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also can u see a pc doing a demo in just 1.3 mb? like this?

thats what always impressed me of the amiga the amount of space it uses for great games and demo's

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=30244

177 KB.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Ruud on February 02, 2009, 04:55:27 PM
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In the end it will only be retro freaks who will appreciate them.


I'm in the target audience then  :-D
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Britelite on February 02, 2009, 04:57:44 PM
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amazing wrote:
also can u see a pc doing a demo in just 1.3 mb? like this?


Yes, I can and I have seen. Stuff doesn't magically become smaller just because it's made for the Amiga you know.

Oh, and just to nitpick again, the demo is actually ~2MB ;)
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: Linde on February 02, 2009, 05:05:18 PM
Technically impressive (but conceptually kind of boring) demo. The "17 year old computer" thing doesn't quite hold though. When did the 060 boards start popping up? 95? And when you have one of those it's basically your amiga that's expanding the accelerator, not the other way around.

Now, comparing it to PCs, I can take any pentium mobo and upgrade it to run quake II pretty fluently.

Don't get me wrong here, the demo is still very impressive, but comparing the Amiga to PCs beyond 1992 is just pointless.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: mikrucio on February 03, 2009, 02:41:43 AM
I should have known better! your all a bunch of old timers. that cant let go of the past! sure I "loved" the Amiga.
things have moved on. WAY ON! Sure those demos were rad,
and i still appreciate them. but yes it WAS 17 years ago.
move along people.
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: kolla on February 03, 2009, 03:25:30 AM
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mikrucio wrote:
I should have known better! your all a bunch of old timers. that cant let go of the past! sure I "loved" the Amiga.
things have moved on. WAY ON! Sure those demos were rad,
and i still appreciate them. but yes it WAS 17 years ago.
move along people.


Why dont YOU move along already? What kind site do you think this is, anyways?
Title: Re: wow great demo on you tube
Post by: kolla on February 03, 2009, 03:36:34 AM
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Piru wrote:
@amazing
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also can u see a pc doing a demo in just 1.3 mb? like this?

thats what always impressed me of the amiga the amount of space it uses for great games and demo's

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=30244

177 KB.


Yey! How about a port to AROS? :-D


Btw, my favourite, I think http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=9521