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Title: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: barney on February 01, 2009, 05:24:18 AM
Here is something interesting I came up with. I believe Defender of the Crown may very well be the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.  I have tried it on just about every model and it work flawlessly.

Barney
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: weirdami on February 01, 2009, 07:04:50 AM
So it can be used as a test of true amiganess then i suppose.
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: ChaosLord on February 01, 2009, 07:27:26 AM
There are lots of games that run on every Amiga.
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Post by: Lorraine on February 01, 2009, 09:49:43 AM
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Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: motorollin on February 01, 2009, 09:55:10 AM
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Lorraine wrote:
Is there a game which can run on all Amiga models as well the three next gen OSes?

If by the three next gen OSs you mean MOS, AOS4 and AROS, then the answer is no since AROS is not binary compatible with AmigaOS. I don't see why a system-friendly game couldn't run on all models of real Amiga and also on MOS/OS4, but currently it would need to be ported to run on AROS.

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Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: barney on February 01, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
Chaoslord, could you give me a list of some well known older games that run on the A1200?  I have tried over 10 games and only Def Of Crown worked.  Also, is there a web site that lists the compatibility for each game on the Amiga?

Thanks.
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: taunusand on February 01, 2009, 01:07:15 PM
Dune II works on all my Amigas :-)
A500 Kick 1.3 -> A4000 Kick 3.1
NOT WHDLoad, either run it from disks or install it on HD ;-)

I have not tried it on my A1000 though, I don't think 256kb memory is enough.
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: weirdami on February 01, 2009, 01:09:07 PM
Scavenger Hunt: Adventures Through Time works on my A1200 but I think it was programmed in the A500 era. I'd say that probably any OCS game that didn't hit the hardware would work on up through AGA. Games that did things that Commodore said not to do don't work alot.
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: bloodline on February 01, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
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motorollin wrote:
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Lorraine wrote:
Is there a game which can run on all Amiga models as well the three next gen OSes?

If by the three next gen OSs you mean MOS, AOS4 and AROS, then the answer is no since AROS is not binary compatible with AmigaOS. I don't see why a system-friendly game couldn't run on all models of real Amiga and also on MOS/OS4, but currently it would need to be ported to run on AROS.

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Well, not quite true... Monkey Island (and Monkey Island 2) runs on any Amiga... and all three of the NextGen Amiga clones ;-)
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: Jope on February 01, 2009, 03:07:21 PM
Activision Shanghai runs in multitasking even on a fully specced a4000. :-)

IIRC it didn't like being promoted to RTG modes, but if you let it run in a custom chip mode, it works perfectly.
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: motorollin on February 01, 2009, 03:33:34 PM
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bloodline wrote:
Well, not quite true... Monkey Island (and Monkey Island 2) runs on any Amiga... and all three of the NextGen Amiga clones ;-)

Yes, but only because of ScummVM, which is a port. The game doesn't run natively on AROS :-P

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Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: Terse on February 01, 2009, 03:45:01 PM
The first Amiga game "Mindwalker" is well known because it runs on any Amiga.  It's more compatible than DotC or Shanghai for sure, because it's the only one of the 3 that can run on an accelerated A4000 and an unexpanded A1000.

Before someone says DotC and Shangahi run on an unexpanded Amiga 1000, think carefully.
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: rednova on February 01, 2009, 04:10:53 PM
I hate to dissappoint you, but my original copy of DOTC
which runs good on my a500, it never worked on my amiga 1200. SO I disagree it is compatible on most amigas.

rednova
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: bloodline on February 01, 2009, 05:19:50 PM
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motorollin wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
Well, not quite true... Monkey Island (and Monkey Island 2) runs on any Amiga... and all three of the NextGen Amiga clones ;-)

Yes, but only because of ScummVM, which is a port. The game doesn't run natively on AROS :-P

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moto


That's a bit harsh! ScummVM is just a re-implementation of the game script interpreter... the actual game is from the very same disk that I used to play on my Amiga 500... in my book that counts as the same game... had the game itself been rewritten to work on other platforms then I would agree with you. :-)

Anyway the point is mute... Monkey Island, I'm sure needs 1mb ram... so the original A1000 is out.

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I just checked the box... 512K required... 1Mb recommended... so maybe!!!
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Post by: Lorraine on February 01, 2009, 05:30:56 PM
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Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: motorollin on February 01, 2009, 06:02:21 PM
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bloodline wrote:
That's a bit harsh! ScummVM is just a re-implementation of the game script interpreter... the actual game is from the very same disk that I used to play on my Amiga 500... in my book that counts as the same game... had the game itself been rewritten to work on other platforms then I would agree with you. :-)

Well, I interpreted the OP's question as "which games run natively on all Amiga OS flavours". Although ScummVM uses the original game data files, the game itself doesn't work on AROS. You can't put a Monkey Island floppy disk in to an AROS machine and play it (or play it from an ADF (except with UAE (which isn't native (how many compound brackets do you think I can fit in to this post?))))

Lets call this one a draw before we drag another thread in to the gutter and start talking about poo or willies (or both).

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moto
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: bloodline on February 01, 2009, 06:12:14 PM
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motorollin wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
That's a bit harsh! ScummVM is just a re-implementation of the game script interpreter... the actual game is from the very same disk that I used to play on my Amiga 500... in my book that counts as the same game... had the game itself been rewritten to work on other platforms then I would agree with you. :-)

Well, I interpreted the OP's question as "which games run natively on all Amiga OS flavours". Although ScummVM uses the original game data files, the game itself doesn't work on AROS. You can't put a Monkey Island floppy disk in to an AROS machine and play it (or play it from an ADF (except with UAE (which isn't native (how many compound brackets do you think I can fit in to this post?))))



Well... An A1 or a MOS based machine can't read the Monkey Island disks... and they certainly won't run the original interpreter as it hits the hardware...

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Lets call this one a draw before we drag another thread in to the gutter and start talking about poo or willies (or both).


Spoil sport... you know how much I love my poo and willies! :-D
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: motorollin on February 01, 2009, 06:18:40 PM
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bloodline wrote:
Well... An A1 or a MOS based machine can't read the Monkey Island disks... and they certainly won't run the original interpreter as it hits the hardware...

Even more evidence that it's not a super-compatible game for all Amiga architectures ;-)

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bloodline wrote:
Spoil sport... you know how much I love my poo and willies! :-D

Oh go on then, but just a small one!

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moto
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: bloodline on February 01, 2009, 06:22:43 PM
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motorollin wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
Well... An A1 or a MOS based machine can't read the Monkey Island disks... and they certainly won't run the original interpreter as it hits the hardware...

Even more evidence that it's not a super-compatible game for all Amiga architectures ;-)



I realize I have kinda shot down my own argument here... but I hope that in the context of the original poster's comment, the requirement for a platform specific interpreter doesn't negate the fact that the game itself runs unchanged on all architectures :-)


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bloodline wrote:
Spoil sport... you know how much I love my poo and willies! :-D

Oh go on then, but just a small one!


I can't go now... :-(
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: motorollin on February 01, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
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bloodline wrote:
I realize I have kinda shot down my own argument here... but I hope that in the context of the original poster's comment, the requirement for a platform specific interpreter doesn't negate the fact that the game itself runs unchanged on all architectures :-)

I do kind of agree. I'm just being awkward :-P

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bloodline wrote:
I can't go now... :-(

Don't force it... that can only end badly.

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moto
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: Jope on February 01, 2009, 10:43:54 PM
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Before someone says DotC and Shangahi run on an unexpanded Amiga 1000, think carefully.

Shanghai requires 512k? Wouldn't have thunk it. :-)
Title: Re: D. of the Crown is quite possibly the most universally compatible game for the Amiga.
Post by: Terse on February 02, 2009, 02:08:09 AM
It might be interesting to compile a list of commercial games that ran on 256K.  Aside from Mindwalker, I can think of Racter and not much else.

Maybe Archon, Hacker, Seven Cities of Gold, Hex, One on One or maybe Tass Times?

I'm not even sure if the early Infocom titles could run on 256K.