Amiga.org
Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga community support ideas => Topic started by: Akira on January 26, 2009, 05:16:03 PM
-
On the EAB, I read this:
"I get it u're an Amiga fanatic; u should go to fanatics' den: www.amigaworld.net :)"
What the hell?
Looks like an Amiga.org rip-off... Or are the sites related??
-
uhhh, they are both Amiga sites. Not a rip of in any way. The site has been around from many many years. You too can start your own Amiga site. Amiga world is mainly German and yes it's full of folk who believe in the second coming of the Amiga as a viable major platform, hence fanatics!
EAB on the other hand is a very cool English site and in some ways simply the coolest Amiga site ever.
BTW this site and many other "forum" sites are built with the same software kit, hence they look similar, not sure what the kit is called.....
-
I wouldn't say the majority of visitors to AW.net had an unrealistic feeling that the Amiga is likely to become a mainstream system. I also wouldn't say it was a "mostly german" site, especially since the people behind it are, AFAIK, mostly from the UK.
-
Yep, I guess I should have just said "European site" and that the have a "reputation" for having a bit "more of a zealous vigor" about the future of the Amiga. :-)
Nothing is pure!
Anyway I think Akira just means the Layout looks the same as this site, and honestly I don't know which came first.... I think this one.
-
I would say that Amigaworld is more focused on OS4 and the newer machines that run OS4 and AOrg is more a classic Amiga site.
-
I'm amazed with this:
http://www.amigans.net
To me it seems too purely "RED" zone.
I prefer more mixed colors. (my boing ball is no more purely red/white, the original check mark had rainbow colors after all)
:oops: :-o
-
Akira wrote:
On the EAB, I read this:
"I get it u're an Amiga fanatic; u should go to fanatics' den: www.amigaworld.net :)"
What the hell?
Looks like an Amiga.org rip-off... Or are the sites related??
Are you high? AW.net has been around a loooooong time. :roll:
-
amigaworld.net has been the official HQ of the red camp for a loooong time but they loosened up little bit when they lost hope for new amiga hardware from AInc (I'm still amazed how long they kept believing.)
-
Im pretty sure that this site has been around longer
-
To me, Amigaworld.net, is like the X-Files. They have suspicion, conspiracy theories and outlandish stories. While I like the site, they focus more on blaming XXX for Amiga's problems, or So-and-So is an expert on XXX and everyone else is wrong. I like this site best, because it's more down to Earth and people seem to want to help you more - Plus they have a cool logo!
Keep up the great work all.
Ed
:-D :lol: :-P ;-) :-D
-
yes, but in the end are we that different?
:-o
-
In the end. . . no, but they're MUCH more passionate about it. Too much drama for me.
:roll:
-
Edpon wrote:
...Too much drama for me.
:roll:
With NAZI-like moderation to boot. :roll:
-
JJ wrote:
Im pretty sure that this site has been around longer
We began work on Amiga.org in late 1994. The first-use rights on the logo date back to April 26, 1995. According to WHOIS, Amigaworld.net started on 22 May, 2001.
Historically this was at the very height of the red/blue wars, and as is tradition, Amiga.org split into factions and those who wanted 4.x and new stuff went there. Those who were just fine stayed here. It's not quite as simple as that, and I have NO intention of opening old wounds, but that's what happened.
As the world began, God (aka Kevin Hisel for our purposes) created the Amiga Web directory. Later, the AWD begat Amiga.org, which begat Amigaworld.net, which begat Amigans.net.
It's a true telling in the world of Amiga that when a site is doing something well, a spinoff is born with people who believe differently.
Judging by the timing, if the Amiga is still alive in the hearts of minions everywhere, Amigans.net should be spawning a rebellion of it's own in about 3 years.
(I say all of this honestly in loving humor of how silly we all once were over this crap).
Wayne
-
guru-666 wrote:
yes, but in the end are we that different?
:-o
We never were. If this were the TV series Red Dwarf, it would be the cats fighting over whether the hats were red or blue. As it is, it's just time honored tradition that whenever you gather a large group of people who're enthusiastic about ANYTHING, division occurs.
Kinda like basic chemistry/anatomy/cell division 101.
I wanted to focus on the "classic" Amiga until which time we actually saw something out of Amiga Inc. Amigaworld.net saw a niche to fill supporting OS 4.0 and took advantage of the sitation.
ABSOLUTELY no different from what happened when I formed Amiga.org in 1994 after seeing the potential of creating a portal site for the Amiga, versus Kevin's manually created "list of links" that was known as the Amiga Web Directory.
When Amiga.org came about, some thanked me for it, some cursed me for it. All I know is that 15 years later, I'm trapped in this strange universe and no one can hear me scream (haha)..
Wayne
-
weirdami wrote:
With NAZI-like moderation to boot. :roll:
Oh my... :roll:
-
B00tDisk wrote:
Are you high? AW.net has been around a loooooong time. :roll:
Your aggression is not welcome.
I made a valid question as this is teh first time I see this and, yes, my question was mainly because the site looks -exactly the same-. It was responded with the "they use the same kit for building the site", but I still think that such an uncanny resemblance is unneeded! reading further on story as Wayne expressed it, I see that the site was a spinoff of people leaving here, so the similarities are obvious.
So, not a "rip-off", but heavily inspired (on layout), and with a different focus (the more zealot type).
All clarified! move on, nothing to see here! :-P
-
Wayne wrote:
Historically this was at the very height of the red/blue wars, ...
.... seems kind of silly to me now, but we sure got riled up back then. ;-)
---
redfox
-
Wayne wrote:
JJ wrote:
Im pretty sure that this site has been around longer
We began work on Amiga.org in late 1994. The first-use rights on the logo date back to April 26, 1995. According to WHOIS, Amigaworld.net started on 22 May, 2001.
Historically this was at the very height of the red/blue wars, and as is tradition, Amiga.org split into factions and those who wanted 4.x and new stuff went there. Those who were just fine stayed here. It's not quite as simple as that, and I have NO intention of opening old wounds, but that's what happened.
As the world began, God (aka Kevin Hisel for our purposes) created the Amiga Web directory. Later, the AWD begat Amiga.org, which begat Amigaworld.net, which begat Amigans.net.
It's a true telling in the world of Amiga that when a site is doing something well, a spinoff is born with people who believe differently.
Judging by the timing, if the Amiga is still alive in the hearts of minions everywhere, Amigans.net should be spawning a rebellion of it's own in about 3 years.
(I say all of this honestly in loving humor of how silly we all once were over this crap).
Wayne
Dont forget ANN.lu!!
I loved that place.
Those were the days.
-
With NAZI-like moderation to boot.
This reminds me of another Amiga site I was familiar with.
-
/
-
@Akira:
You may had a valid point in 2001 not so on 2009... btw it's quite a shock that a forum site resembles another... I see tons of forum sites resembling each other, might it be due to the type of site?
In evolution convergence also applies...
-
I've hung out at aw.net for years. Lots of them. I'm not as obsessively red as some are, and it feels a little more balanced since the truely reddest of the reds went to amigans.net. I'm not red enough to spend lots of time on that one. And I criticize Amiga Inc. to no end on aw.net. I read that site and this one amiga.org for the most part, others I look up once in a great while. I don't even know what that EAB is.
-
I have never been much interested in the so-called "camps"... I must say I like amigaworld.net and amigans.net more as there's more talk and support of OS4.x there.
Varthall
-
Amigaworld.net is more OS4.x dominated...i prefer to frequent this site, EAB, and LemonAmiga.com for some down to earth Amigan talk ;-)
-
Varthall wrote:
I have never been much interested in the so-called "camps"... I must say I like amigaworld.net and amigans.net more as there's more talk and support of OS4.x there.
Varthall
There's nothing wrong with that. As the site's owner/webmaster, I do what I can, but don't set the tone of the conversations.
Wayne
-
Wayne wrote:
Judging by the timing, if the Amiga is still alive in the hearts of minions everywhere, Amigans.net should be spawning a rebellion of it's own in about 3 years.
And seeing how the amount of members decreases for each "exodus", you will probably be able to count the members of that offspring on your two hands fingers...
-
Akira wrote:
I made a valid question as this is teh first time I see this and, yes, my question was mainly because the site looks -exactly the same-.
LOL, then you aint seen much kid... :-)
-
billt wrote:
I've hung out at aw.net for years. Lots of them. I'm not as obsessively red as some are, and it feels a little more balanced since the truely reddest of the reds went to amigans.net. I'm not red enough to spend lots of time on that one. And I criticize Amiga Inc. to no end on aw.net. I read that site and this one amiga.org for the most part, others I look up once in a great while. I don't even know what that EAB is.
Check out EAB (http://eab.abime.net/)
It's also a very good Amiga related site :-)
But yes, me too.. Mostly I "hang out" at amiga.org (and amiga.dk, Danish site)
-
taunusand wrote:
Check out EAB (http://eab.abime.net/)
It's also a very good Amiga related site :-)
They've got an awful attitude there IMO. They automatically disable accounts if you don't post frequently enough for their liking, and it's been known for anyone expressing an interest in OS4 (or any non-68k Amiga-like OS) to be very aggressively flamed.
-
ncafferkey wrote:
They've got an awful attitude there IMO. They automatically disable accounts if you don't post frequently enough for their liking, and it's been known for anyone expressing an interest in OS4 (or any non-68k Amiga-like OS) to be very aggressively flamed.
I have not been in any OS4 threads at EAB, so I can't argue with that, but my info at EAB:
Join Date: 18 October 2007
Total Posts: 29
And my account has not been disabled :-D
-
FAQ EAB Account (http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab_rules#faq_eab_account) wrote:
One member will be removed from the EAB if :
* User has not posted enough (< 10 posts) and his last EAB visit is more than two months old.
* User lowers the quality of the discussion by posting stupid, repeated off-topic posts, and flame-wars.
* User doesn't seem to be interested in the Amiga or retro-gaming world.
(The 10 posts number is too low, it is the typical result of someone who makes three questions, two answers, and never comes back here. Those people are not considered as real members)
Inactive "members" with a very low post number will be removed without any notice. We do not want to see those cadavers here, like in the majority of "big" internet forums, with at least 50% of dead or fake members.
Those users that create multiple accounts for any purpose (specially for trolling or "messing around") will be warned and/or banned, depending on the "havoc" they cause.
These rules made it so that my account there was deleted. And I had to make myself a new one. I find it kinda harsh. But it's their site, so their rules. I still find it valuable to be a member there.
A post by "deleted Arnljot" (http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=383422&postcount=46)
Now I haven't posted anything, but I log on once in a while as a "heart beat".