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Title: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 19, 2009, 09:36:12 PM
I need a little help
I am trying to install MOS to my efika.
But i am not able to format the HDD.
It mount DH0, and when i partition the hdd it mount another DH0. deleting and partitioning the hdd again mounts another DH0. now i have tree dh0 and one DH1.....

How do i remove mountpoints so i can format the actual DH0 drive?
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: krashan on January 19, 2009, 10:00:12 PM
How do you boot MorphOS? Try to boot from USB drive or via network, then run HDConfig.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 19, 2009, 10:05:01 PM
I boot from a USB pen. running the "morphos-2.2-efikainstall.img" and in wb screen clicking the installation button. following the setup. partitioning the hdd as i seem fit ( 10gig dh0 and 27 gig dh1).

After a reboot i now have only one DH0.
however...

Volume name: (unnamed)
volume is not initialized

when i try to format it i get:
"invalid volume name" you need to specify a name wich does not collide with other volume or device names.

And i cannot format the disk...
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: Fingers on January 19, 2009, 10:21:35 PM
I had problems like that when putting a new HDD in my Efika.

Do you own a real Amiga with IDE capability? If so, partition & format the drive with it first (instead of doing it with MorphOS install .img) & you will have no further problems.

If you don't own a suitable Amiga, use WinUAE to partition & format the drive.

I have no idea why you are experiencing the problem (like I was too), but the above method works great! :-D

PZ.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 19, 2009, 10:23:55 PM
I have an a1200 with os 3.9
However... i am not "steady" with HDtoolbox and using SFS...
I crashed the disk in the A1200 last time i tried...
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: Fingers on January 19, 2009, 10:30:24 PM
Take out the existing HDD from your A1200 when you do it & just use the Install3.1 floppy to do the job...that way you don't risk anything.

Hang on, I'm confused...your signature lists heaps of cool hardware, but you are scared to format a HDD? :-?

PZ.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 19, 2009, 10:58:32 PM
hehehe...
yea, strange isn't it :-D
You see, i am a hardware guy.
I love tinkering with hardware. (and i NEVER get rid of old hardware!!!)
But software scares the living {bleep} out of me.

Me and HDtoolbox never was any good friends when it came to install/use a file system other than FFS...
In my A1200 i have only 1 gig partitions on a 5 gig drive...
every time i go beyond 1 gig and using other file system than FFS i trash the partition and loose all the data...
luckily i keep backups on my zip disks...
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 20, 2009, 01:38:48 AM
What SFS shoul i use?
SFS for 68k or os4 PPC?

UPDATE:
in my A1200, no matter what i do. The disk drive form the efika just wont show up.
It is partitioned with SFS. the sfs that comes with morphOS.
HDtoolbox finds it, and it finds the partitions as well.
But the drives so not want to show up on WB screen.


UPDATE 2:
The diskdrive from the efika end it partitions shows up in early start menu....
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: zylesea on January 20, 2009, 01:58:36 AM
@ Pyrre

Is your hd really new or was it already formate with another computer? if so, you have to to wipe out the MBR and apply an RDB.
Quote

from morphos-team.net helpdesk:

Q: I want to set-up a SFS partition, but its not available in HDConfig and iWizard. How is this working?
A: The problem is that you selected MBR as partition table which is not very flexible and no even contains a real checksum. The solution is to change the boot block type to RDB. This can be done by using right mouse button above the hard drive image. In the newly appeared context menu you can select RDB. After this is done, SFS can easily be chosen via the GUI.


But if you really want to set up the hd with your 1200 use ffs for a start, and reformat the partition with SFS once the hdd is reswapped to the Efika. But I suggest to try to solve the prob with the efika. Don't mess with OS4 sfs and MorphOS, it won't end well.  
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 20, 2009, 02:06:07 AM
It was formatted with MBR when i got it.
But after a session in the a1200 earlier it has RDB.
and RDB was selected in mos setup when i tried to partition the drive.
The only problem i can see now is to format the drive.
And i do not understand the format command in morphos.
I always get "unvalid arguments" or something alike.
Is there a GUI way of formatting the hdd in morphos setup?

EDIT:

Nevermind the format question.
i found it reading the MorphOS readme...
 :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 20, 2009, 04:39:17 AM
Now i have installed the OS..
typing:
ok boot ide:0 boot.img
and the system boots just fine.

However?

How do i make it autoboot?
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 20, 2009, 05:01:58 AM
I just had to.
this posty is made from the efika running morphOS.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: Fingers on January 20, 2009, 05:02:32 AM
From MorphOS website FAQ:

"Q: How do I setup or modify the auto-boot feature? (Open Firmware)
A: First make sure its working when typing the commands by performing a test boot.

Then, define a boot file and set options. Boot command and boot device will be added by using the Open Firmware.
> setenv boot-file boot.img ramdebug

There are alias names available if you did not remove them, so this /pci/ stuff can be replaced by a simple ide:0.
> setenv boot-device /pci/ide/disk@...

Now, we set the auto boot delay. By default the Open Firmware counts down from 5 before starting auto boot. This would be a 5 second delay. It is possible to set up lower or higher numbers. It is recommended to refrain from using values below 1000, because it may be very hard to re-enter the Open Firmware command line interface again otherwise. The optimal values are between 3000 and 10000. (4000 equals 4 seconds, 1000 equals 1 second, and so on.)
> setenv auto-boot-timeout 3000

You may skip this for now. Using "boot" command without any argument will use the configuration specified above. If its working fine you finally can enable automatic booting using those set-ups.
> setenv auto-boot? true
"

It works for me :-)

PZ.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 20, 2009, 05:21:11 AM
too much info in one post for me to handle.. :-D
correct me if i am wrong..

step 1
setting the boot device
> setenv boot-device ide:0

step 2
setting the boot img
> setenv boot-file boot.img ramdebug

step 3
setting the  autoboot timer
> setenv auto-boot-timeout 5000

step 4
enabling the autoboot
>setenv auto-boot? true

My "bios" battery is dead. it is not able to hold the time settings. will that affect anything other than time settings?


EDIT:
and another question:
Why do i only have 73mb ram?
I thought the efika had 128mb
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: Fingers on January 20, 2009, 05:42:00 AM
A 5 second (5000) timeout will prove to be a lot longer wait than you think. I suggest 2 seconds (2000), as you still have enough time to kill auto-boot if you want, but don't have to wait ages for it to start up.

PZ.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 20, 2009, 06:01:04 AM
I felt 3 secs was to short...
maybe change that later.

I have some questions:
1: is all the amount of ram supposed to show up on sam disk?
Mine is only showing 69(now) and it is changing between 50, 60 and 71 mb...

2: when i do something, like resizing windows. The efika makes a strange noise. difficult to explain... But everything i do makes that noise...

3: in openfirmware is there a way of rebooting the computer?

4: The clock battery is dead, at least it is not holding the clock settings when powered of and on again.
Does that affect anything else than the clock?
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: Britelite on January 20, 2009, 07:30:09 AM
Quote

pyrre wrote:
2: when i do something, like resizing windows. The efika makes a strange noise. difficult to explain... But everything i do makes that noise...


Is it a kind of buzzing noise when something is happening on the screen? If that's the case, I've had the same problem and it was actually the PSU making the noise. After I changed the PSU the problem was gone.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: Fingers on January 20, 2009, 07:44:40 AM
Quote

pyrre wrote:
I felt 3 secs was to short...
maybe change that later.

I have some questions:
1: is all the amount of ram supposed to show up on sam disk?
Mine is only showing 69(now) and it is changing between 50, 60 and 71 mb...

2: when i do something, like resizing windows. The efika makes a strange noise. difficult to explain... But everything i do makes that noise...

3: in openfirmware is there a way of rebooting the computer?

4: The clock battery is dead, at least it is not holding the clock settings when powered of and on again.
Does that affect anything else than the clock?


1: It fluctuates as you do things that require the use of memory...you are seeing free memory, not total memory.

2: No idea, probably what Britelite said.

3: In Open Firmware, or in Ambient? In Open Firmware, maybe just try hitting your reset button. In Ambient, right-click on an empty part of the screen & there'll be drop-down menus at the top...choose the one left-most, as restart & shutdown are there.

4: No idea, but it's just a button cell, which I'd be changing if I were you.

PZ.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: zylesea on January 20, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
Quote

pyrre wrote:

My "bios" battery is dead. it is not able to hold the time settings. will that affect anything other than time settings?



Yes it has an impact f you want to register MorphOS. W/o battery the MAC adress of the NIC changes often to aribrary values.
Get a new battery, boot te Efika up, type ifconfig into a shell and compare if the MAC address is equal to the oe prited on the label attached o the NIC/usb port.
If it is equal insert the new battery carefully into the battery holder (while the Efika is running!!! Be caereful!!!). If the MAC doesn't have the desired value, power the Efikadown (unplug the PSU!) and restart again. Fro my experience the cahnce to get the origial MAC is 1:8 (or a bit less). So, statistically you need 8 attempts. If you don't want to register MorphOS and don't use a network configuration where identification is done by the MAC you don't need to bother.  

Quote


EDIT:
and another question:
Why do i only have 73mb ram?
I thought the efika had 128mb


There is 128 MB o the board, but the OS requires some RA itself. You can lower the ammount if you chose a simpler MUI theme (Mehalanxi or how it is called is fine) and reduce coor deepth to 16 bit. Don't open too many screens. Unfortunately RAM is a quite limited resource on the Efika.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: Britelite on January 20, 2009, 10:59:08 AM
Quote

zylesea wrote:

Fro my experience the cahnce to get the origial MAC is 1:8 (or a bit less). So, statistically you need 8 attempts. If you don't want to register MorphOS and don't use a network configuration where identification is done by the MAC you don't need to bother.  


From my experience it takes an enormous amount of reboots to get the MAC-address right, because I still haven't managed to do that. So, I'm stuck with an unregistered version of an OS I've paid for, which sucks...
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: zylesea on January 20, 2009, 11:21:46 AM
@ Britelite

In my case it toggeld to the right MAC every now and then. But I haven't managed to discover the underlying mechanism - the 1:8 was a raw guess. Don't forget to not only reboot, but disconnect the Efika from power, so that capacitors all get discharged.
But I agree it sucks (why on earth the batteries used for teh Efeika run so fast out of voltage and, 2nd, why on freaking earth does teh NIC loses its MAC then (given teh idea that the MAC should be a *constant*)?!).
If setting the MAC manually doesn't help, maybe you can just insert the new battery and get a new constant MAC and ask some team member on #morphos if a new reg key can be issued for your new, then constant (as long as the battery lives!) MAC.

Edit: Britelite, note the pm I sent you.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: pyrre on January 20, 2009, 03:21:51 PM
that is strange...
I strongly believed mac addresses were permanent...
luckily  i have not registered MorphOS yet.

But changing the hdd and installing linux, inserting a new battery and setting the mac address to its proper value.
And swap back to morphos hdd.
would that work?

@ britelite
Quote
Is it a kind of buzzing noise when something is happening on the screen? If that's the case, I've had the same problem and it was actually the PSU making the noise. After I changed the PSU the problem was gone.

Yes its a buzzing sound.
Title: Re: efika and morphOS
Post by: yakumo9275 on January 20, 2009, 06:02:14 PM
EFIKA appears to eat the batteries for breakfast, or they all shipped from the factory with close to failing power levels.

I'm guessing the first one but I dont know for sure. I feel the urge to replace mine now :/

if your hearing noise when you do screen ops, it could just be the video card whine.