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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: persia on January 17, 2009, 03:57:23 AM
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Amiga Inc have broken their silence with two, count them, two press releases in December!
AmigaAnywhere Titles Now Available on AT&T (http://amiga.com/news/?art=36)
Amiga Announces New Line of Consumer Applications
(http://amiga.com/news/?art=35)
So they've spent a entire year getting into a mobile phone catalogue and developing two apps. a tip calculator and a pirate snowman card maker!
Only Amiga Inc...
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A `Tip Calculator`???
How {bleep}ing completely embarrasing. How terribly embarrasing indeed.
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Tip Calculator takes the guess work out of what to leave for your tip. Simply type in the amount of your bill and Tip Calculator takes care of the rest. Immediately select from one of the levels and the amount and total are right there ready to apply to the bill. Now you will never have to worry about what the correct amount should be.
TipIt provides a simple and easy way to calculate tips for not only your server at the restaurant but cab fares and everywhere else you may want to know what the correct amount should be.
OMG this is {bleep}ing hilarious ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
it's official ! AInc are a joke !
new AInc motto :
"From morons, for morons."
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Great, now I feel like vomiting not just once, but twice.
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"what many have said is the greatest game for Windows Mobile devices"
Umm.. really?!?
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They expect people to pay for a Tip calculator... There are about 50 free ones on the App Store... And they do other cool things like split the bill, convert between currancies (auromatically via a live link to xe.com)... I guess Ray is getting better at programming now and has managed to copy out Example 2.3 from his "VB for dummies" book...
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A tip calculator ? I'm British - we don't give them :lol:
Here's a tip for Amiga Inc - Try selling something that people want to buy. You may be surprised at the outcome !
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hahaha, ok just trying to think about the shear volume if code required to make the tip calculator work:
float tip = meal_price * 0.1;
That seriously must have taken Ray months and months of hard project planning and debugging to get that to work...
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Looks like three calculations at three different percents. We don't tip here in Oz either, but it seems to me you could easily figure 10% by moving the decimal. The other App creates weird snowmen. I can't think of anyone I would send a weird snow man to.
(http://www.amiga.com/product_data/images/cooltools/Promo01_Snowman_landscape01_320.jpg)
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Creepy Snowman Maker is still available for the December promo price of $0.99! Get it now before the price goes up!
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Crikey that snowman thing looks sh1t.
If only Ainc took after snowmen and melted in the spring...
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This website's color scheme sucks and it loads too slowly! No way I'm leaving these jokers a tip.
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And nothing since...
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:roflmao:
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oh my God, this is hilarious, my stomach hearts from laughing so much :lol:
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Wait....if you don't tip your waiters, how much do they make an hour then?? As it stands in the States, if you make tips, you get a whopping 2.13 an hour, so you're kinda dependent on tips.
And just so you know, coming from a former waiter and still a part-time bartender, 10% is rude....15% is the norm. I guess you all *DO* need a tip calculator. Thank God for Amiga Inc.
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Thank Zeus I live in a country where we pay people a living wage and don't make them beg for money. Tipping is just so Jeves and Wooster...
But back to the question, exactly who would I send a creepy snowman to? Christmas here is on the beach, "Winter" is maybe just once approaching freezing and comes in August. I note that KMOS, the current Amiga Inc has *never* produced anything Amiga compatible...
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@persia
I guess last week as an exception because it was BLOODY COLD (at least in Melbourne) and it was only April :-o
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@ Methuselas >> In Denmark we have a minimum wage, that is around 20$ so you are guarantied at least that amount per hour.
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@yssing
yeah, but then you lose 50% of it in tax!
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xeron >> Roughly 50%, I pay aorund 41% I think.
But it still beats 2,5$ plus you get free healthcare ind DK. BTW, i think you get that in all of europe right?
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Yes the UK has minium wage. So people get paid a decent wage.
I personally only tip if I have received better than normal service.
The way it should be.
I thought the USA had minium wagwe too ? or you do and its really really low ?
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Methuselas wrote:
Wait....if you don't tip your waiters, how much do they make an hour then??
Between £3.53 and £5.73 per hour depending on the age of the worker.
Methuselas wrote:
As it stands in the States, if you make tips, you get a whopping 2.13 an hour, so you're kinda dependent on tips.
That's about £1.40. That would be illegal in England.
Methuselas wrote:
And just so you know, coming from a former waiter and still a part-time bartender, 10% is rude....
IMO, *expecting* a tip is rude. Why should I tip somebody for doing their job, for which they are paid a salary?
I went to New York a couple of years ago, and went to a bar in Times Square. The barman there clocked us as we walked in, and watched us walk up to the bar. Despite this, he made absolutely no effort to approach us to take our order, preferring to stay at the other end of the bar so he could chat to his friend. Eventually I had to ask him if we could order some drinks. After we had ordered and I had paid, he stood there staring at me like he was expecting something. I asked him if I had got the money wrong, and he said "how about a tip?" I was naturally infuriated by him expecting a tip for such poor service, so I responded by saying "of course, a tip: look both ways before you cross the road".
Moral of the story: anybody who gives anything less than exceptional service is extremely unlikely to get a tip from me, especially if they ask for it.
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moto
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Some US states have different minimum wage and that is broken down to tip and non-tip hour wages. Non-tip wage is $7.21 @ hour, if you receive tips, it drops to $4.19. By all means, if the server isn't doing their job (and it's clearly their fault and not kitchen's staff or just plain busier then all heck for them), don't tip.
Dammy
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Maybe, I'm visiting relatives up on the NSW Far North Coast, so it's been warm, it even got up to 30 a week ago. SSo we spent time on the beach...
Steady wrote:
@persia
I guess last week as an exception because it was BLOODY COLD (at least in Melbourne) and it was only April :-o
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Useful breakdown, by US state:
Minimum Wages for Tipped Employees
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/state/tipped.htm
Any state that only mandates the bare minimum required by US federal law isn't doing much for its citizens. (Businesses love it, of course. I suppose it would be different if they got to take a cut of the tips, and I'm sure the lack of a cut is the basis of the argument for the lower wage.)
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Methuselas wrote:
Wait....if you don't tip your waiters, how much do they make an hour then?? As it stands in the States, if you make tips, you get a whopping 2.13 an hour, so you're kinda dependent on tips.
And just so you know, coming from a former waiter and still a part-time bartender, 10% is rude....15% is the norm. I guess you all *DO* need a tip calculator. Thank God for Amiga Inc.
It comes down to culture. In the US, there's a culture of tipping and it's expected, almost like "service tax" and should be provided unless the service was below par. It's not just for exceptionally good service.
Here in Ireland, 10% is normal if you had, for example, a good meal with nice service. Excellent personal service might see a bit more, while disinterested staff and poor service won't get a tip at all. That way, most people strive to give as good a service as they can. Expecting or asking for a tip would be considered rude.
Doesn't go for bars though - there's no tipping the barman, otherwise we'd all be broke! ;-)
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We tip in bars (and casinos, of course), too, but good tips are usually balanced by free drinks, top shelf liquor, extra flirting from the waitress ;-), etc.
EDIT: I don't tip delivery people, though, especially the pizza guy. I did tip, however, before they started charging delivery fees.
EDIT2: And I hate tipping the bell service, doorman, etc. at hotels, but I do it anyway.
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The sketch:
A customer enters a pet shop.
Mr. Praline: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.
(The owner does not respond.)
Mr. Praline: 'Ello, Miss?
Owner: What do you mean "miss"?
Mr. Praline: I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
Owner: We're closin' for lunch.
Mr. Praline: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this company what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Amiga, Inc...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Owner: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead company when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable company, the Amiga Inc, idn'it, ay? Beautiful press releases!
Mr. Praline: The press releases don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
Owner: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!
Mr. Praline: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouting at the cage) 'Ello, Mister Bill Amiga Inc! I've got a lovely fresh iPhone clone for you if you show...
(owner hits the cage)
Owner: There, he moved!
Mr. Praline: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!
Owner: I never!!
Mr. Praline: Yes, you did!
Owner: I never, never did anything...
Mr. Praline: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO BILL!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!
(Takes company out of the cage and thumps its head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches it plummet to the floor.)
Mr. Praline: Now that's what I call a dead company.
Owner: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!
Mr. Praline: STUNNED?!?
Owner: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Amiga Inc's stun easily, major.
Mr. Praline: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That company is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk.
Owner: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.
Mr. Praline: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?
Owner: The Amiga Inc prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable company, id'nit, squire? Lovely press releases!
Mr. Praline: Look, I took the liberty of examining that company when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there.
(pause)
Owner: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that company down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!
Mr. Praline: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this company wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
Owner: No no! 'E's pining!
Mr. Praline: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e
rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-COMPANY!!
(pause)
Owner: Well, I'd better replace it, then. (he takes a quick peek behind the counter) Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of tech companies.
Mr. Praline: I see. I see, I get the picture.
Owner: I got a sewer cleaners.
(pause)
Mr. Praline: Pray, does it talk?
Owner: Nnnnot really.
Mr. Praline: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?
Owner: N-no, I guess not. (gets ashamed, looks at his feet)
Mr. Praline: Well.
(pause)
Owner: (quietly) D'you.... d'you want to come back to my place?
Mr. Praline: (looks around) Yeah, all right, sure.
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That's about £1.40. That would be illegal in England.
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IMO, *expecting* a tip is rude. Why should I tip somebody for doing their job, for which they are paid a salary?
So 2.13$ an hour is illegal, but for them to expect a tip, when the wage they make is criminal, that's rude?? Here in the states, most people know that people who work in bars or in the food service industry live off their tips.
When I was a waiter and worked as a bartender, 24-7, I lived off my tips. I treated everyone with the respect they deserved, ie, they got stellar service, provided they weren't rude or obnoxious.
2.13$ an hour is *NOT* a "salary" and most waiters, believe it or not, still live in poverty level for "doing their job".....
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Trev wrote:
Useful breakdown, by US state:
Minimum Wages for Tipped Employees
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/state/tipped.htm
Any state that only mandates the bare minimum required by US federal law isn't doing much for its citizens. (Businesses love it, of course. I suppose it would be different if they got to take a cut of the tips, and I'm sure the lack of a cut is the basis of the argument for the lower wage.)
This is exactly what I'm talking about. If you live in a state, where the bare minimum is the norm, people become dependent on the tips they receive from patrons, so they typically take extra good care of them. People who treat me like sh!t, get the same, whether I'm a patron or a server. It's also ridiculous for a job to actually expect a cut of tips. A bar I used to work at, the bar owners would take tips out of every night, even though they never worked, nor did they ever get behind the bar or do anything that would remotely be construed at work. They found a loop hole that allowed them to literally "tax" their employees and guess what, if you had a problem with it, you could, verbatim in toto, "find another job if you had a problem with it".
Secondly, the US has this nasty little thing called the "right to work" clause, which means that it's a privilege to have a job and a job can fire you for anything, if they so choose, with no reason other than they felt like it. Of course, this also "helps" the employee, allowing him/her to quit their job at any time, without provocation, however, it's hardly unlikely that another job will smile upon you doing so. In other words, if you quit, odds are you've gained a stigma for enacting your "right to work" clause, meaning most places will refuse to hire you, as you might do that to them, though they have no qualms about doing it to you.
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There must be some other non-Amiga thread (or other website) on which you can discuss capitalism vs. socialism?
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Methuselas wrote:
So 2.13$ an hour is illegal, but for them to expect a tip, when the wage they make is criminal, that's rude?? Here in the states, most people know that people who work in bars or in the food service industry live off their tips.
If an employer is paying their staff an illegal wage, then that's an issue for the employee to take up with their employer. I certainly don't agree that customers should be *expected* to subsidise the staff's wages because the employer doesn't want to pay them a legal (or even 'reasonable') wage.
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moto
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That is why we have the Union.. To protect the worker.
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This is getting worse.Next thing they do is to create a pacman clone and claim it the best game for pda.What comes next?
I think it is easy for every moron out there to just have a website with a few pictures and name it a professional company.
Maybe we should treat them as some kind of an old disease and never mention the name amiga inc here.
Here are my suggestions.We should symbolize the name amiga with something else than amiga inc : my suggestions ? A-cube,hyperion,amigakit store,just make sure you never ever use the "inc" after amiga.
They just own the name and nothing all and all they do is create hazards for the people that still want amiga.
Bill from amiga inc :go to hell i say,even Doomy is more appreciated person than you are.At least he sings the amiga tune.
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