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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: DrFloppy on September 03, 2003, 11:09:34 PM
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Amiga and ADSL
Does anyone of you have some expiriance connecting Amiga to ADSL using MiamiDX or Genesis?
My config is Amiga4000D, 2 x X-Surf, ADSL modem and I have reg. version of MiamiDX. The protocol used by my ISP is PPPoE. The data I have got are DNS numbers and ID and PW. All other things should be automatic. The IP number for my computer is temp. dynamic, later on it will be static.
PLEASE HELP.
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I've used ADSL and Cable Modems with both Miami and Genesis (AmiTCP). If you read the MiamiDX docs I don't think you should have any trouble. IIRC, MiamiDX can handle PPPoE and the docs should tell you where to enter the DNS servers, login, password etc.
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Hi there. I use my Amiga-4000, Miaimi, X-Surf Version 1
to connect to my EarthLink DSL Service.
I am assuming your service is Active.
Be sure to have A Network Cable going
to the X-surf from the DSL Modem.
Then Use MiamiDX Init to make a
config file then import it to Miami DX.
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I know all that but it seems that miamipppoe.device wouldn't work with x-surf (ver.1) very well.
I would be very grateful if you could help me with some directions, maybe I was doing this all wrong.
Some examples of settings would be great.
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I have two X-surf card installed in my Amiga one is for LAN and one for WAN. How do I set WAN? I don't have much expiriance with non dail-up services, except LAN. But othervise there is problem when I use MiamiInit because I got message that the device is alredy in use and I can't go forward to complete settings.
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by DrFloppy on 2003/9/5 19:59:03
I know all that but it seems that miamipppoe.device wouldn't work with x-surf (ver.1) very well.
I would be very grateful if you could help me with some directions, maybe I was doing this all wrong.
Some examples of settings would be great.
You must downloat the xsurfadsl.device from:
http://home.t-online.de/home/indcomp/bin/dsl-rel2.lha
There is an installer inside.
The problem is the ADSL modem.
You must configure it from a PC as Bribge RCF1483.
Let me know.
Ciao
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How can I do that?
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@ DrFloppy
Have you a PC with a Browser Java comp.?
Your modem has an IP (search on the modem docs).
Type that IP in the browser, and you should be able to see the ADSL modem configuration.
Which ADSL modem have you?
Ciao
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I've seen two providers here that do not need Java at all. In the instruction manual most of the times is explained how to configure a modem.
Most of the times this can be achieved with normal telnet or just good ol' plain IBrowse... so no need to drag a PC in ;-)
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@Gerbinist
better for him!
Thats change nothing. Java or not Java, the user needs help not unuseful lessons.
Ciao
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@Framiga
Yes, you're right :-) But for a moment I was thinking of a helpdesk that I once phoned:
You have an Amiga ?!? Then you can't have DSL.
What!?! 50 Mhz. ?!? -> You can't have DSL ;)
Ok, about the problem... ;-)
Did the provider provide a manual? If so, try to look at the Mac part of it. Most of the times there is a bit more explained instead of a link to an .exe file on a certain CD.
Also if none of this helps, try and find a Linux site that covers this provider. Most of the time on such sites is explained step by step what you have to do.
I haven't got the device you mentioned, so if the prob is related to that... sorry.
Greetz
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I can't find any IP address for my ADSL modem is there any way to get it?
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My modem is IskraTEL Callisto 821
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Look in your modem manual, it should be there, if you don't have the manual, go to the website of the makers. They usually have a pdf file you can download.
Usually it is around the 10.0.0.134/135 or 10.0.0.150
Greetz
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Yes, you're right But for a moment I was thinking of a helpdesk that I once phoned:
You have an Amiga ?!? Then you can't have DSL.
What!?! 50 Mhz. ?!? -> You can't have DSL ;)
LOL. I had a similar go around with my DSL provider when I signed up.
ISP Customer Service:
Ok, and here's your installation cd. Just put it in your computer and follow the directions.
Rigger:
I don't need that cd.
ISP Customer Service:
Oh, the MAC version is on the cd. You just open.......
Rigger:
I still don't need that cd. You use PPPoE all I need are the addresses for your DNS servers?
ISP Customer Service:
DNS Servers? Just a second I'll have to call our technical department......
Hi, I have a customer that needs to know our DNS server address?
(techie talking to CS)
Uh huh, yes, no, no. Ok.
(techie talking to CS)
Are you running Linux?
Rigger:
No.
ISP Customer Service:
No.
(techie talking to CS)
Huh, ok, ok.
(techie talking to CS)
What system do you have?
Rigger:
I have an Amiga.
ISP Customer Service:
It's an Amiga?
(techie talking to CS)
Yes, yes, all right then.
(techie talking to CS)
What operating system are you using?
Rigger:
Amiga OS3.9
ISP Customer Service:
Amiga OS3.9
(techie talking to CS)
The addresses are xxx.xxx.x.x and xxx.xxx.x.x
The technicain said that we cannot guarentee that your system can connect and they will not be able to help you resolve any problems.
Rigger:
Ya, whatever. That's why I signed up for your one month free to make sure it will work. Thanks.
(Really didn't need the DNS addresses but it's nice watching them squirm when the thought they had all the answers)
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Hey
As I see it, the best option would be to buy a DSL router (with PPPoE). They are pretty cheap these days. In Norway they're starting at $100 and the you get a combined router/switch. The switch part let you connect more machines to the router. If you get a dsl router, you don't need to configure MiamiDx to use PPPoE. You configure most settings in your router (like PPPoE and DHCP) and then you configure MiamiDx with dynamic ip, gateway and netmask (via DHCP).
I've never configured MiamiDx to use PPPoE, but I configured MiamiDx to use PPTP (to connect up to a vpn network). It worked great. My dsl provider uses PPPoA (simillar to PPPoE), but I've got a dsl router which does everything a lot easier.
Have you read the MiamiDx.guide/NODE_TYPICAL_DSLPPPOE? Did you try to do this stuff? Didn't it work out? You should also read the FAQ at www.nordicglobal.com/Amiga-DSL-FAQ.txt
edit:
Genesis can be brought to support PPPoE using a thirdparthy device but only if you've got X-surf/X-surf2.
Good luck!
Regards
Tor
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@tormedhammaren
Genesis don't support PPPoE ?!?!?. . so i'm a phantom!!!
I'm online with a XSurf card and its own PPPoE driver on ADSL line with a modem Ericcson 220dp.
If you have a XSurf/2 card, you can download the ADSL driver archive with its installer at:
http://home.t-online.de/home/indcomp/bin/dsl-rel2.lha
FYI the user that needs help, has already an ADSL modem.
Ciao
@DrFloppy
if you wish help, contact me privately.
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At home i have an Amiga 1200, 2 Pegasos and 3 PC's running on ADSL. Configuring was easily done with my A1200 with cnet.device (We first tried with the PC, but went later on to my old A1200 and Cnet, just a piece of cake with Miami and IBrowse.) It was done by my son in 2 or 3 minutes. The only thing you need is Miami, a browser and the ISP-adress of your Router (I have 2 of them) or Modem.
Succes Tom
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i use a router and adsl , and i use miamidx and genesis.
no problems what so ever , i use telnet to talk to my router + firewall etc, i dont own a pc or anything... i am amiga only and it works like a charm , providers who make silly java sites for their ip conf/adsl setups well thats just stupid, as you dont need more than a damn text interface.
drfloppy:good luck!.
pps: i have used pcmcia cards and now the last year i have used a 10/100 ethernet card in my mediator.
cheers
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by DrFloppy on 2003/9/5 19:59:03
I know all that but it seems that miamipppoe.device wouldn't work with x-surf (ver.1) very well.
Remember also, that with an ADSL modem (and some hub also), you MUST setup your XSurf, in half-duplex mode if you want to have full speed connections.
Ciao
NOTE- only with "ADSL modem" and some hub.