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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 03, 2003, 05:58:03 AM

Title: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 03, 2003, 05:58:03 AM
For purposes of both dial-up connection and networking, Is there any sort of "definitive" guide as to which is the more powerful/capable/configurable/etc. program?

I'd always used Miami in the past, but some few months ago, when I fired up the old Miggy again, I went looking for something that was still being developed - presumably this means only Genesis.  I tried the MUI version off Aminet and it worked for both my dial-up and network.  It worked well and I was interested.  Now that I've got 3.9 I assume the same functionality from the non-MUI version included with it (although the MUI version did look more polished - is it actually better?)

Thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: iamaboringperson on September 03, 2003, 06:03:48 AM
Use Miami. :-)
Title: Re: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: Spidey on September 03, 2003, 07:03:59 AM
Hi,

Can anybody tell the difference between these two programs?
I almost always hear that Miami is better, but why is it better? Do you have more speed when connected to the net or so?

Thanks,

Spidey
Title: Re: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: amiga1260 on September 03, 2003, 08:02:39 AM
I use Genesis and Miami(DX) with Samba. When I use Genesis, sometimes the program hang. Genesis don't have DHCP. Miami is much better in stability. Miami and Genesis are both good programs.
Title: Re: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: newbee on September 03, 2003, 08:17:40 AM
Team

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the feeling that Miami was no long able to be licensed so unless you already have a viable key file (I will not advocate priracy) you are out of luck.

If genesis is still being developed and can be licensed it is the only option (in the long term).

Regards
Darren
Title: Re: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: pVC on September 03, 2003, 08:23:32 AM
If you need DHCP or PPPoE or some more advanced features, then go to Miami or wait for Roadshow. If you only need modem or static ethernet connection, then go for Genesis. With ethernet the Genesis is noticeable faster and has been very reliable and stable in my use.
Title: Re: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: Indoro on September 03, 2003, 09:15:41 AM
I always used MiamiDX on my A4000T until the keyfile was corrupted in a disk crash. Holger is MIA and all requests for replacement keyfiles are seemingly now ignored.

MiamiDX was more reliable than Genesis is, but Genesis is still supported and still being updated. The MUI and Boopsi versions are the same in functionality. I prefer the MUi version personally, but a lot of people hate MUI for some reason or another. (Yes, I have had problems with MUI from time to time, but the enhancements MUI provides to AmigaOS are worth the rare occasion that somethign goes wrong.)

As a matter of fact, I just got done setting up a ntwork for Harv a few weeks ago using Genesis, AmigaExplorer, Samba, and VNC. The only problem with Genesis is that on some systems it is unstable. For instance, Harv was having problems with Genesis crashing on a network disconnect.

MiamiDX crashed occasionally too, but it was overall more reliable, and more straightforward in some respects. The DHCP option seems to still be lacking in Genesis (or maybe it is lackign from AmiTCP period?) which is really annoying if you do not use a router or gateway on your system, but there isn't much of a choice right now.

Overall Genesis is a really decent piece of software, and it comes with the OS (v3.9), which is a plus.

Best of luck to you with whatever rout you choose to take.

//R//
Title: Re: Genesis or Miami?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 06, 2003, 07:15:56 PM
@ Indoro, all -

Great, thanks for the advice!  Since I don't need DHCP I think I'll stick with Genesis, although it really is a shame about Miami.  Can't anyone pick up development, or release it to open source?

Thanks,
Mike