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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: redrumloa on December 03, 2008, 10:40:22 PM
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Just paid my most recent eBay invoice and my Power Seller discount has dropped from 15% to 5% due to eBay's new anonymous rating system. The killer is "shipping costs" has supposedly dropped fom 4.8(out of 5) to 4.7 for the last 30 days. The star ratings are anonymous.
I hate eBay, but being pissed at them won't change anything. I state upfront what shipping costs are. Shipping costs are actual postage + anywhere from $1 to $5 handling fee depending on the item. If people don't like the postage fees, why even buy? I don't get it, some people must just be spiteful and venting in the anonymous rating system. I'm stuck with eBay for now, I guess I will simply have to start banning eBay users using best guess who is doing it.
/end venting
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I understand your venting...I've seen this problem too. I've just been doing regular listings but my rating is a bit off 100% due to the shipping questions.
We are being punished for something we have no control over, the cost of shipping is controlled by UPS and USPS, or whoever your local post might be.
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As much activity as I had last month, the discount drop from 15% to 5% was a significant amount of money lost. Burns me up.
My problem is not the rating system, but the anonymous nature of it.
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Sorry to hear about that.
Like you said, all your costs are visible and up-front, so who can complain? Sadly, we have bred a society where a sizeable chunk of it thinks it deserves everything and has to earn nothing. This is probably reflected in your ratings with people wondering how you have the nerve to ask for a penny more than the actual shipping price on the box, with no thought about time & effort, the cost of the box, the cost of the packing, etc.
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So you became ineligible for the higher discount because your rating for shipping went down by 0.1? That's 2%. Were you on the edge of the 15% zone or something already?
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It's BS to buy knowing the terms upfront, only to trash your rating afterward. :roll: If everything shows up quickly, packed well (like your stuff always does), what more can you possibly ask for?
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weirdami wrote:
So you became ineligible for the higher discount because your rating for shipping went down by 0.1? That's 2%. Were you on the edge of the 15% zone or something already?
It is based on the last 30 days, I had 75 feedback in the last 30 days. My 12 month average is supposedly 4.8. How close it was, I wouldn't know since the star system is anonymous. There could be a couple buyers clicking 1 star just to be a dick, I'll never know since it is anonymous.
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In my opinion a seller should always be given a fair chance to respond to negative feedback. This way any future buyer can see both sides of the story and make a call. This anonymous feedback system makes that impossible.
When I used to use ebay alot (a few years back) I used to quite often find that odd bits of negative feedback on otherwise well rated sellers was from idiots who had all bad feedback who just gave bad feedback out of spite because they were given it.
As for ebay charges... I'm in the retail pet trade and a couple of years back I considered the idea of selling lines through ebay as an extra line of revenue. But to be honest I soon scrapped that idea when I worked out the combined costs of ebay and the time and effort it would take to list stuff and package it up and send it. It certainly wasn't a get quick rich scheme.
I'm just glad I don't have to run a business that way and I sympathise with anyone that does.
Cheers,
Rudi.
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I kind of get it, it's a way for ebay to get more cash, well only a theory of mine, but they can't be such idiots as to not see it's unfair. They already got most of this marketso they don't care.
I suggest using another payment method than paypal (to avoid paypal fees), you're already a reputed seller so maybe you won't lose buyers. (DOn't blame me if it doesn't work, just thinking out loud here... :roll: ).
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I understand your frustration redrumloa, but I noticed that you don´t mention the 1-5$ handling fee in your listings. So I imagine that it can be a small surprise for some buyers.
But still, that discont drop is a harsh penalty to receive for a small feedback change. I sympathize with you Red.
Now the buyes should have asked you about that when they received the goods and saw the postage, but I guess most of them bought items where 1-5$ was really small amounts compared to the total and they rather "bit" back through the rating system.
I always communicate with the seller through ebay if I feel something is wrong. But I have seen that it´s not as common place as one would wish.
So my advice to you red is to add the handling fee in the ads, and to future buyers to communicate through ebay with the seller both before the purchase and after the purchase. This way ebay have a record, and both parties stand stronger.
On a side note:
I´ve stopped giving the seller my personal e-mail in the ebay message form. I hate it when I ask the seller an important clarifying question about the terms, and then he/she replies privately through email. For boths sake = Have it documented in the ebay message system.
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@arnljot
There is a shipping calculator on the bottom of ever auction / store listing page. There should be no surprises.
Most retro buyers are great, really! The problem really must be a couple select individuals. Also I wouldn't care as much except eBay fees are so darn high, any Power Seller discount I get I factor into store prices. When my next Individual Computers shipment comes in next week, I will have to bump the eBay store prices a bit.
I'm ranting again. :lol:
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I see Red :)
Good, I didn´t know that it was all inclusive.
I´d still buy from you when I get some $$$, maybe later this month or in the next year...
You have some prime cuts there which I´d like to sink my teeth into. Like that GVP 030 for A500 up now... Man I´d love to have that one! :)
But it´s a popular item, so I know it´ll go for more than my max...
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I share your ebay pain. I am through with them indefinitely. I've been doing as well or better using craigs list. Though their are still plenty of good folks at ebay, their percentage of complainers and malcontents has increased sharply over the past 2 years as well as the charges. It's not the same place I joined over 10 years ago and it's just not worth my trouble any more. The rule seems to be "Complain to get partial refunds or free shipping." As a seller it feels like a form of extortion.
Craigs list works just as well, has national and international readers, cost me less, and I can pick and choose my customers. You do have to set your own price possibly missing that top dollar mark that bidding migh bring, but so far I find the stress and pain level so much better that I don't feel like I've missed much once I've set what I think is a fair price.
For an example of my lastest item check this post. :-)
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39356
Plaz
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There is a shipping calculator on the bottom of ever auction / store listing page. There should be no surprises
BTW, that calculator is cr#p. I can't tell you how much I've lost trusting that thing to be accurate. Try the same item/weight in the calculator, then try the same at the shipping vendor's site. Wrong or incomplete in many of the items I've tried. When you selling items at $10-$20, loosing $2 an item adds up. One more reason I'm bailing on ebay.
Plaz
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If I were you, I would try experimenting with FREE shipping on some of your auctions. You might find that it attracts more bidders and higher bids. And your ratings will become stellar!
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arnljot wrote:
I understand your frustration redrumloa, but I noticed that you don´t mention the 1-5$ handling fee in your listings. So I imagine that it can be a small surprise for some buyers.
Also Redrumloa knows how to get paid, and seems to be raking in the dosh, so I don't see why he has to charge a handling fee. It's silly when you are charging 185USD for an old commodore floppy drive. When you are at that price level I think it is a bit rude to charge for handling.
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I recently sold a few items on eBay.
Each item was sent the very day after payment was received, each item was sent Express Post (next day delivery) & for each item I charged less than the actual postage cost.
I could tell from my ratings after feedback was received that none of the buyers gave me top marks for postage time, nor for postage cost!
WTF? Next day delivery & I picked up some of the postage cost & they still did that! WHY? :pissed:
PZ.
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Ideal wrote:
Also Redrumloa knows how to get paid, and seems to be raking in the dosh, so I don't see why he has to charge a handling fee.
Unlike most of the knuckleheads trading out there, I ship properly. Most items ship in a new box with proper packing material (packing peanuts, bubble wrap, antistatic bags etc). I don't throw things in a crushed, dirty used box with no packing material and then tell the buyer to F themselves when it shows up in a thousand pieces.
I don't run a charity.
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Yeah their new ratings system really sucks major a$$.. I don't know what they think they are trying to do, but they damn sure are not providing much incentive to sellers these days....
Typically in the past, It seems to me that regular sellers are concerned with their ratings, and tend to cause the least problems of anyone on ebay.. They have the most to loose, when you think about it.. It makes no sense to me that ebay would create this new extremely buyer-biased ratings system....
I tend to be sympathetiic to the seller... Unless they just out-right rip me off, I will alwayse give the highest possible feedback ratings in every area. I would hope that the average intelligent person would do the same for me, seeing how rediculously unfair the new ratings system is..
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If I were you, I would try experimenting with FREE shipping on some of your auctions.
That depends on the margin you're making on an item. Here's a very crude, but not unrealistic example. What if I or Red spend $100 on a item. We then turn and sell it for $185. We have to also factor in shipping supplies, shipping cost, ebay fees, paypal fees, maybe insurance and additional options like delivery confirmation or signature deliveries. Now the item has cost us $100 plus maybe another $30 for all those other items (especially if it weighs more than a few pounds when boxed) leaving a margin of $50. Now add in the fact it took a few hours to test the item, clean it up, take photos, arange the ebay listing, pack the item well, and deliver it to a shipper. Now what's your hourly pay rate going to be minus your rent and taxes if you're self employed? $12-15 dollars an hour? A smaller but respectable wage in the US.
If your margin is small, and mine normally is on old equipment, giving away $10-$20 in shipping will drop the gain to below my trouble to deal with it. My last auction on ebay just 2 weeks ago was like this. My cost was about $14, it then took about 2 hours clean test and pack the item. I sold it for $37 and the shipping cost came to about $16. The buyer complained about shipping cost and wanted me to ship for free. That would have payed me a whopping $3.50 an hour to sell this item. I might as well throw it in the bin and spend my time on some thing else. In the end I found a cheaper shipping option for $11, the buyer paid and all was well, sort of. The buyer then complained the cheaper shipping option was taking to long to arrive and wanted his money back if it didn't arrive by the end of the week. It did, and all was well. I have 4 more or these items, they're going in the bin and ebay can bite me.
Plaz
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Red, Welcome to the world of "the customer is always right". I would've thought living in the free-market capital of the world ie the USA you would know it. I have worked in retail and the reality is that the customer is more often than not a pain in the backside, because they actually believe they ARE always right. Go to any departments stores and you see people return goods after they've broken them, clothes after they've worn them, wasting the salesperson time for advice and support only to buy off someone who is a little cheaper BECAUSE that merchant doesn't employ and pay for knowledgeable sales people). Maybe you yourself have been a PIA customer somewhere. what you are experiencing is merely a reflection of what is happening in the broader society. It ain't right but thats the logical endpoint when "the customer is always right" ie the customer ends up being unreasonable. And consumer laws in Australia anyway, encourage this nonsense with little support for merchants but total support for consumers.
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@stefcep2
You are 100% correct, except that I know it well alright. I'm just not your typical retailer in that I don't care about venting on a forum :-)
I've had a few buyers lately claim their item is DOA. When I aplogize and tell them return it and I will send them a working item after I get theirs back and verify the problem, they dissapear. Seems to be exactly what Plaz mentioned, trying to get something for nothing.
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Red,
I believe the solution is to raise prices because the people who complain are probably those who can't afford it anyway and raising prices would help you recoup and to keep the bad people away because those who can afford it will renegotiate or not complain.
Another solution is to add a commentary in your sale in plain English that you sell good products and you pack items professionally and there have recently been abuses in the rating system and that you are doing everything that you can to be fair to everyone.
ChuckT
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I believe the solution is to raise prices because the people who complain are probably those who can't afford it anyway and raising prices would help you recoup and to keep the bad people away because those who can afford it will renegotiate or not complain.
Sounds like a plan :-D
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I actually did that once with a CD32, the incoherent complaints I got from a couple eBay users was helpful to populate my blocked buyer list :lol:
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redrumloa wrote:
@stefcep2
You are 100% correct, except that I know it well alright. I'm just not your typical retailer in that I don't care about venting on a forum :-)
I've had a few buyers lately claim their item is DOA. When I aplogize and tell them return it and I will send them a working item after I get theirs back and verify the problem, they dissapear. Seems to be exactly what Plaz mentioned, trying to get something for nothing.
Thats whats its all about, unfortunately. BTW the same thing has happened to me on ebay. No I'm not a retailer, but been one and it was a real eye-opener at what consumers are really like..
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hack them into tiny pieces! put them in the boot, and burn the remains at the local tip!
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Plaz wrote:
If I were you, I would try experimenting with FREE shipping on some of your auctions.
That depends on the margin you're making on an item. Here's a very crude, but not unrealistic example. What if I or Red spend $100 on a item. We then turn and sell it for $185. We have to also factor in shipping supplies, shipping cost, ebay fees, paypal fees, maybe insurance and additional options like delivery confirmation or signature deliveries. Now the item has cost us $100 plus maybe another $30 for all those other items (especially if it weighs more than a few pounds when boxed) leaving a margin of $50. Now add in the fact it took a few hours to test the item, clean it up, take photos, arange the ebay listing, pack the item well, and deliver it to a shipper. Now what's your hourly pay rate going to be minus your rent and taxes if you're self employed? $12-15 dollars an hour? A smaller but respectable wage in the US.
If your margin is small, and mine normally is on old equipment, giving away $10-$20 in shipping will drop the gain to below my trouble to deal with it. My last auction on ebay just 2 weeks ago was like this. My cost was about $14, it then took about 2 hours clean test and pack the item. I sold it for $37 and the shipping cost came to about $16. The buyer complained about shipping cost and wanted me to ship for free. That would have payed me a whopping $3.50 an hour to sell this item. I might as well throw it in the bin and spend my time on some thing else. In the end I found a cheaper shipping option for $11, the buyer paid and all was well, sort of. The buyer then complained the cheaper shipping option was taking to long to arrive and wanted his money back if it didn't arrive by the end of the week. It did, and all was well. I have 4 more or these items, they're going in the bin and ebay can bite me.
Plaz
Set your minimum bid at the true minimum you're willing to accept (or use a reserve, but I personally hate reserve auctions). The listing fees are not that much higher. Again, this free shipping idea is an experiment. It may or may not work out, but you won't know until you try. You'll get a five-star shipping rating, or something very close.
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I think $11.75US a bit steep for shipping a floppy disc is abit steep
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I'm not a power seller but I can appreciate the 'issue' with P+P?
Up until recently I had 100% positive feedback as seller but one guy left me a Negative over my postage charge!!!
The P+P was CLEARLY stated in the auction, so why did he bid, win AND pay, if he felt the postage was too high?
He simply left negative feedback without contacting me first.
I pointed out to him that the cost is to cover Postage AND Packaging, not just the actual cost of the stamp!
When things sell at very low prices on ebay (which they often do!), is it not fair for the seller to at least cover the cost of selling the item at a low price...blame ebay for their excessive charges!
I mostly now use ebid http://uk.ebid.net/stores/Zoogamer to sell low value items....on this site I can actually afford to sell things at 99p!!!!...which aren't worth putting on ebay.
As this is just a 'hobby' I don't need the exposure of ebay, so most stuff goes on ebid...MUCH cheaper and fairer
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A lot of people seem to be missing the fact that the free shipping on ebay is just a ploy for EBay to make more money themselves on the same item. Nothing is truly shipped for free. The cost of shipping is just included in the amount charged for the item, which raises it's listing value and selling value. EBay makes more money for higher listing fees and higher sold item price. The end result is the seller making less money on the same item.
This is the same reason they limited the amount you can charge for CD's, records, and books. It's not to protect the buyer as they claim, just a way for them to make more money on listing fees and selling fees.
Dan :madashell:
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just a ploy for EBay to make more money themselves on the same item
Exactly!
Go ahead and roll shipping cost in to a low priced item and declare "free shipping". Then watch your overly priced item set on ebay with out bids for a week. Then guess what? You have to relist the item (minus the hidden shipping), pay another listing fee and this time sell the item first day even though you tack on shipping charges after the sell. There is a psychology to selling on ebay. There's no explaining it other than to say "well humans are involved, what do you expect." ebay has cleverly calculated those quirks and profitted accordingly. They have taken it too far this time though. For those saying "try this, or try that", recall that I've been on ebay 10+ years. I've more than likely tried it already. It's too bad that so many millions will continue to be shilled.
Another auction site that has gained some attention since ebay's policy changes is onlineauction.com (ola.com also). I've looked, but not tried it myself.
Plaz
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If I buy something from Ebay and the advert says £3.99 P&P. I expect the P&P to cost the vendor approx £3.99.
If my item arrives and has simply been wrapped in £0.10p's worth of brown paper and has postage stamps that total £1.50 then the seller will get a low star rating feedback for P&P (after I have first voiced my complaint to the vendor to see if they care).
IMHO P&P is not a way for vendors to make additional money.
It should precisely cover the cost of postage + postage materials + average cost of travelling to the post office.
At the same time I agree that the P&P feedback should not be a place for buyers to air their negative feelings towards the general rising cost of postage in this world.
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I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that at all. If I bid and buy an item for $10 with a shipping fee of $4 I am saying that the item is worth $14 to me. It isn't suddenly worth only $12 when I receive it and see that the postage was only $2. I knew the total price upfront when I was bidding.
If I listed a PIV board for $10 buy-it-now with a shipping & handling fee of $125 I would sell all that I had and many more. That is a bargain at a total price of $135. But alexh is going to buy it, and then when he gets it in the mail and sees that it only cost $15 dollars to ship be mad. And then want a refund for the difference? I do believe that alexh would probably be the only upset person with everyone else happy that they got a good deal. The only real loser would be EBay who would only get large payments on 2 of their 3 charges.
Dan
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If the vendor cannot be arsed to calculate a realistic P&P charge, and cannot explain the difference satisfactorily when asked, then it's tough if they get low P&P feedback ratings.
(I mentioned above, I accept the P&P is not just the postage fee, but also the packaging and the cost to the vendor in preparation and travelling to the post office)
The PIV example is not a very realistic example though. It's against eBay policy for the vendor to hide the true cost of an item in the P&P and avoid paying eBay fees. If I was to buy it, wait for it to arrive and then complain to Ebay and PayPal chances are I'd get a partial refund (effectively getting the item for $15) and the vendor would loose their P&P fee and their item.
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It's the nature of the beast. Sometimes you will get bad ratings, negative feedback, rightfully or not...however there are also many positives of eBay which obviously is not the focus of this thread.
There are ways of ensuring or maximizing your earning potential (and filtering out the problematic bidders who might complain) through good, long, and detailed item description, lots of high-res pictures, and pretty much making sure that your item stands out from all the rest. It's not easy, but it does help manipulating the bidders' psyche and swinging them onto your item(s), instigating ferocious bidding wars, etc., especially when it comes to rare amiga hardware. :-)
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And that is exactly the type of person being talked about that started this whole thread. If somebody gets a good item that was well described for a good total price, they should have no complaint.
If you look hard enough, you can always find something wrong with any and everything.
If I sold 100 PIV boards like stated above, alexh would be the only one complaining.
That's kind of like the one person out of 100 that is messing up ReDrum's profit margin.
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Ideal wrote:Also Redrumloa knows how to get paid, and seems to be raking in the dosh, so I don't see why he has to charge a handling fee. It's silly when you are charging 185USD for an old commodore floppy drive. When you are at that price level I think it is a bit rude to charge for handling.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I would like to present "Exhibit A" to my earlier argument. :lol:
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stanlong wrote:
I think $11.75US a bit steep for shipping a floppy disc is abit steep
When it is well packed, has tracking and insurance it seems like a fair proce to me.
If it's an old C64 floppy then weight-wise it's like mailing a laptop! :-D
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If you're counting on ebay's online calculator to get it right, count on bad feedback. Do you're home work on packaging and shipping cost before listing or it will cost you one way or another.
One trick I used... Use the post office (UPS, whatever) calculator to get the shipping cost. Then futz with the wieght of the item on ebay untill the two calculations come close to matching. Also make sure to account for insurance and/or delivery confirmation costs.
I once had to add 2 pounds to the ebay weight before it matched the correct price at the post office. Go figure. In the end I collected $15 for shipping and it cost me $15.50, close enough for sure.
Plaz
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If people think that ReDrum is getting rich selling this stuff then you are sadly mistaken. It is a labor of love for him with a very small profit margin. He sold some items recently for what on the outside looked like very large amounts. I was one of the very few with inside info on how and where he acquired this equipment and I would like to state that it wasn't given to him! He paid huge bucks to get it! And that's not even factoring in that he had to travel clear across the country to pick it up and then return home(when gas was still $4 a gallon). He is going to have to sell a very large amount of equipment before he even gets to the break-even point. It is being very small and ignorant to even suggest that he doesn't need to watch the bottom line and worry about shipping supplies and other expenses.
The story I like to tell is the one where I had a buyer complain a couple of years ago that I charged $4.50 for shipping and handling for a record album. He thought it was too high because postage was only $2.50. I explained to him that on top of the $2.50 I paid $1 for the new LP shipper, and the other dollar of the price went for paper, tape, travel expense, and ink. He wrote back and told me that I was being very petty thinking I had to charge for ink. I told him I agreed with him that I thought charging for ink was being petty, up until the time once every 4 to 6 weeks that I had to pay $52 for a pair of ink cartridges. At that moment it didn't seem petty at all.
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If I sold 100 PIV boards like stated above, alexh would be the only one complaining.
A pointless argument as it wouldn't happen.
At that moment it didn't seem petty at all.
But you explained it to him and I bet once you did he agreed with you and left positive feedback or cancelled neutral/negative feedback? Perhaps even bought more items?
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I've purchased at least three things from you Red and I am 100% satisfied with the way you do business. I've always given you 5 stars and will continue to do so. Thanks for the books by the way.
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In Denmark we use www.qxl.dk instead for ebay.
Pretty much the same thing..
I don't sell anything very often, but I find it okay to ad a little to the shipping costs. But shipping costs clearly have to be in the auktion listing! Maybe packing material can be free (I can have perfectly good boxes at work for free), but not always.
Once I bought something the seller actually desided to drive up to me and deliver himself, after I paid him with bank transfer. He desided to use his own car for shipping :lol: I did not complain :-)
BTW, I have 100% positive feedback, and I charge a little extra for shipping. ;-)
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I must admit that I have complained about shipping once, and that was when Elbox wanted nearly $40 to send me a couple of ROM chips from Europe. Now that was kicking the ass out of it. :-)
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If the vendor cannot be arsed to calculate a realistic P&P charge, and cannot explain the difference satisfactorily when asked, then it's tough if they get low P&P feedback ratings.
If I see that shipping is way too high, I don't bid on it. I also don't bid if there's no shipping cost listed. If you know what you're going to be charged up front, you have no reason to complain when you are actually charged that much.
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We are being punished for something we have no control over, the cost of shipping is controlled by UPS and USPS, or whoever your local post might be.
Sort of. If it's a five dollar hassle for you to 'handle' the shipping, then set your minimum up by five dollars and keep the 'shipping cost' the actual cost of shipping.
As it is, shipping costs are severely broken on ebay.
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abbub wrote:
As it is, shipping costs are severely broken on ebay.
Keep in mind my average handling fee is $2, unless something is bulky or needs extra material then it can scale up to $5. I have an account with a box manufacturer, I buy new boxes, bubblewrap, peanuts, tape, antistatic bags etc. Each of these cost money, that is why there is such a thing as a handling fee. Go to any box/shipping supply company online and calculate how much all this costs. See what a pack of 100 boxes costs to be shipped to you.
What some people miss is there is no Voodoo here, everything is stated up front. Back when I was selling comic books on eBay for a while I tried a flat $2 shipping first comic, all additional comics ship free. I plainly stated in the listings basic shipping would ship in a padded envelope by media mail, unless buyer opted for upgraded shipping. The comics being sold were anywhere from $.35 each to a couple dollars each. I'd have people buy ~25+ comics and pay just $1.99 shipping. My actual costs were about $8.00 and people would complain the comics didn't ship Priority Mail or boxed. So they pay ~$15-$20 for comics and expect it to be shipped at a higher cost than what they paid :roll:
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A colleague of mine put me on to this site: bidtopia.com
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weirdami wrote:
If you know what you're going to be charged up front, you have no reason to complain when you are actually charged that much.
Sure. There are no grounds for complaint just because the P&P price is too high as you knew how much it was going to be.
BUT at the same time the buyer expects a certain level of quality associated with P&P and if it is not met then it is grounds for complaint.
It is 100% upto the buyer to choose whether or not they felt they got value for money with the P&P amount.
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If you know what you're going to be charged up front, you have no reason to complain when you are actually charged that much.
If I see that something's going to cost me $30 for S&H I expect that it will get to me fast and secure with UPS or something. And then I get it four weeks later with a $3 stamp on it sent by surface mail. Then I think I actually do have reasons to complain even if I knew up front how much I would have to pay.
(and no, this isn't in any way related to red and his auctions. :)
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@Bezzen
Where the heck you been? Long time no see :-)
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I think one thing we are overlooking is the misleading definitions of what the number ratings mean. If you read the definitions if someone were to give all 4's it is a great transaction. After reading the definitions of what a 4 rating is, I don't see any way that EBay should be penalizing sellers for receiving them. Even all 3's indicate a normal, average transaction, which is what most transactions are.
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Gee, more great news from ebay...
eBay Holiday Contest Overrun By Automated Scripts, Honest Users Disgruntled (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/04/ebay-holiday-contest-overrun-by-automated-scripts-honest-users-disgruntled/)
And no way to leave bad feedback for any deadbeat bidders using scripts, sweet. Everyone make sure to post lots of $1 items with $75 shipping and handling charges. ;-)
Will you get paid? That's another story.
Plaz
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Put simply, if you want the item then you pay whats stated. If you don't want the item then don't bid.
Basic and simple!
When it comes to selling, you can't please everyone so you just have to bear the brunt of a few whingers who vote with a click of their mouse.
Why complain about it all? Thats part and parcel of the online experience ... move along!
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Right!
And I hate to hear of "binning" items you know people want/need ;just set the minimum bid such that you won't lose money ,you might be lucky and get more.
Sellers who start items they know are worth $100 at 1 penny deserve to get bit when an item sells cheap.
Remember,it is an auction,and like the stock market.today's price is no guarantee of tomorrow's price.
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@ZeBeeDee
I could not have said it better!