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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: mingle on December 03, 2008, 10:02:43 PM
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Hi,
I recently (yesterday) tried out MCP 1.46 on my A1200 (KS3.1, 68030, 32MB FAST RAM) and after the reboot had a number of problems.
The hard drive was constantly accessing every second (almost like the "click-click" of the floppy drive!), but the main issue was that when I tried to run the MCP Prefs program, I get an error requester popping up saying:"The MUI Generation Failed"
I do have MUI 3.8 installed (mui38usr.lha from Aminet) on my machine, but do I need to register first before MCP Prefs will work?
The strange thing is that although MUI programs run (apart from MCP Prefs!) fine on my system, they still look like non-MUI programs - in other words, none of the MUI features/gadgets/fonts are present. I'm sure this wasn't a problem when I used MUI in the past (on a different A1200).
I've tried reinstalling MUI, but that makes no difference...
I also tried setting the 'test mode' in MUI, since mine isn't a registered version...
And this is the REALLY strange thing: When I use one of the CU Amiga cover CDs and click on the "initCD" tool (to set up the various assigns, ect for the CD), any MUI programs I then run (ie: IBrowse, MiamiDX) now look like they should - all of the MUI gadgets, features and fonts are there...
But MCP Prefs still won't work...
Does anyone have any ideas when my MUI isn't behaving?
Is MCP v1.46 even supposed to work on my machine?
Cheers,
Mike.
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mingle wrote:
68303
Maybe it's because of your unusual processor...
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Delete MCP
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@meega...
Ha Ha! So my fingers were going faster than my neurons! Fixed now...
@ChaosLord...
Not sure if that's a serious suggestion (ie: reinstall after) or you just don't like MCP...?
:-)
Cheers
Mike.
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You may be missing a MUI custom class (.MCC) file that the MCP Prefs needs. Try running SnoopDOS to see if it's missing something.
Other than that, what do you have enabled in MCP? Did things work with the older MCP version?
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@adolescent,
I just ran the MCP 1.46 install and accepted all the default suggestions (and default config).
I have no idea what options I have set up, since I can't get into the prefs program... It was all working fine with the older version I had (1.30)
It definitely has some problems (apart from the MUI) issues, since my hard drive is constantly accessing (almost in the same was as the floppy drive "click-click-click") and there's some system info-bar half-way down the screen is some horrible colour (light pink from my MWB palette).
I'll give snoopdos a go and see what it shows...
Cheers,
Mike.
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Here's the output from SnoopDOS:
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Count Process Name Action Target Name Options Res.
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6 ramlib Load LIBS:screennotify.library Fail
7 MCPPrefs Open keypath:mui.key Read Fail
8 MCPPrefs Open keyfiles:mui.key Read Fail
9 MCPPrefs Open S:mui.key Read Fail
10 MCPPrefs Open L:mui.key Read Fail
11 MCPPrefs Open DEVS:mui.key Read Fail
12 MCPPrefs Open LIBS:mui.key Read Fail
13 MCPPrefs Open keypath:mui.key Read Fail
14 MCPPrefs Open keyfiles:mui.key Read Fail
15 MCPPrefs Open S:mui.key Read Fail
16 MCPPrefs Open L:mui.key Read Fail
17 MCPPrefs Open DEVS:mui.key Read Fail
18 MCPPrefs Open LIBS:mui.key Read Fail
22 MCPPrefs ToolType CX_PRIORITY Fail
23 MCPPrefs ToolType LANGUAGE Fail
24 MCPPrefs ToolType HELPFILE Fail
25 MCPPrefs ToolType PREFSDIR Fail
26 MCPPrefs ToolType NOAUTODESELECT Fail
29 ramlib Load LIBS:NList.mcc Fail
30 ramlib Load NList.mcc Fail
31 ramlib Load LIBS:mui/NList.mcc Fail
32 ramlib Load mui/NList.mcc Fail
33 ramlib Load LIBS:NList.mcc Fail
34 ramlib Load NList.mcc Fail
35 ramlib Load PROGDIR:mui/NList.mcc Fail
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A couple of things; obviously it seems to need a registered version of MUI to run (missing the keyfile) and the NList class...
Cheers,
Mike.
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MUI does not have to be registered. Registration is only necessary if you want to change the look of mui programs.
You're missing a few things:
- screennotify.library, which you can find here (http://aminet.net/search?query=screennotify)
- mui class NLIST, you can find the latest version here (http://www.zerohero.se/mui/)
- mui class NLISTVIEW (edit: according to the mcp doc this is needed to, you can find it in the link mentioned above)
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Hi Lloyd,
Thanks again for your help.
I've added the missing libs and MCP prefs now starts fine.
MCP 1.46 is still a bit of mess when I start it though - the hard-disk is click-click-clicking away and accessing like crazy and there's that
Maybe I'll just disable all the patches/options and enable them one by one...
Maybe I should just stick with MCP 1.30?
Is there anything notable that v1.46 provides?
It's still strange how none of my MUI apps are showing any of the MUI gadgets or font on any of the windows though - any idea what could cause this?
Cheers,
Mike.
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Regarding MCP:
Some patches can be very buggy. You can try to disable them all and enable them one by one.
If you still have problems, I would return to 1.30.
In the MCP.history.guide you can see what kind of changes were made in the versions after 1.30.
Edit: Just had a look, and there are a lot of bugfixes and improvements since 1.30.
Regarding MUI:
Fonts and gadgets settings can be changed without a registration key.
If it's not working via the MUI prefs program, try to start the MUI program that you want to change, and see if it has a menu option for MUI settings.
Change your settings there and see if it works that way.
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Hi,
I finally have everything working...
My MUI install seemed to be missing quite a few library files for some unknown reason - I fixed that.
I started from scratch with MCP 1.46 and tracked down the offending patches.
It's now working fine...
Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions!
Cheers,
Mike.
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What patches were problematic?
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Hi RMK305,
The ones which were a pain were the "Log book" and "New Clock".
The former causes constant disk access in short bursts - presumably write log entries to disk.
New clock had a rotten colour-scheme (on my 8 colour MWB system) and was half way down the screen on the right.
It would be better if these two were switched 'off' in the default MCP setup.
The title clock patch is also annoying, as it flickers/redraws every time the amount of chip/fast RAM is updated in the Workbench title-bar... Don't know if there's any way around this?
Cheers,
Mike.
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What patches were problematic?
"Power Saver": It doesn't work on my system.
"Screen Blanker": Once the screen becomes blanked, it can only un-blank by moving the mouse. It doesn't listen to the keyboard at all. This bug was introduced in the last public update, iirc.
"WindowsMenu": It works, but there is a conflict with "ScreensMenu", when the depth gadget of a window overlaps the screen depth gadget.
"Font Search" and "Library Search": They doesn't seem to work any longer. They used to work for me with older versions of MCP, but perhaps it has to do with some other system changes i have done.
Can anyone confirm this??
"HD Prefs": I remember that there was something wrong with it, but can't remember what exactly. I thing the format protection doesn't work or something.
"NoGuru": There is a serious conflict with OxyPatcher. (Perhaps with Cyberpatcher too)