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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: mikeymike on September 01, 2003, 10:43:45 PM
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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=102369 (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=102369)
:-D
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lol
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Uh.. as excuses go. That's a lame one :-D
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lol
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Windows.... preemptive..... multitasking..... :-?
Are these people sure those words are meant to be in the same sentence? :-P
A new slogan might be in order:
"Windows NT is so good, you won't be able to play games properly"
:lol:
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This problem occurs because Windows NT is a preemptive multitasking operating system.
No its because its crap. :-D
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In my opinion, the only thing that any version of windows "Prempt's" is stability and ease of use. I would love to dump it as my daily use os. (And will if OS4 ever gets here!) :-D
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mikeymike wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=102369 (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=102369)
Now that's freekin' hilarious! Good grief!!
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This problem occurs because Windows NT is a preemptive multitasking operating system.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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redfox
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That makes me remember a day in my OS and Networking class at college. We were discussing job/process management, and the different methods. FIFO, Round Robbin etc.. We were simulating each technique, taking 5 or so minutes for each. Then we got to round robbin. "Windows NT uses a round robbin job scheduling method" said our professor. Our round robbin simulation then dragged on for the remaining 30 minutes of class.
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Was this game written for Win3.1? If so, it doesn't seem that outragous to me that it doesn't work right.
*edit* I'm talking about the non-NT Win here.
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Wow, you guys are pretty cool bashing Windows NT 3.1
Haven't seen someone bash windows in the most retarded way here in maybe 5 or 10 minutes.
:roll:
Whats even worse is that most of the people who post on the forum about this make points that are baseless. Or the best one of all, "Microsoft Sucks" or "Windows Sucks".
Drop the angst guys, it serves no purpose.
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Okay, like Windows Xp, and Windows 2000 don't suck. NT's alright but sucks for you if you want to play DirectX games. Windows 1-->3.1 and 9X suck, no if ands or buts, 3.1 and horribly unstable, and 9X was way too buggy. Microsoft realized this and got rid of those OSes. OTOH Windows Xp and Windows NT need some serious HD space, RAM, and processor power. Amiga doesn't need that, and I prefer the much more spartan set up when you install it to harddrive so Amiga>Windows whether or not Windows "sucks". The only issue is Amiga lacking tools that Windows has, not the OS itself. Java support on a wbe browser doesn't mean the OS is worse, though it hurts the overall 'platform' the Amiga platform is weaker than the windows platform becuase of the small userbase and slower computers, but for what it does, it does dang well.
I've said my level headed thing. Microshaft sucks and Winblows.
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Doesn't AmigaOS use Round Robin?
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mikeymike wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=102369 (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=102369)
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Cute! But can anyone besides me not view this page using Opera?
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@Argo:
AmigaOS uses round-robin, with a fixed (but settable) priority for each process with quite a bit of granularity (-127 to 127, IIRC). NT (and XP, which is just NT 5.1) has a much more complex round-robin variant, in which you give each process a rough priority (low, normal, high, or real-time) and XP dynamically allocates more CPU time to processes in the foreground (if you've set the OS up for client-side use) or the background (if you've set it up for server-side use). That, in theory, is a pretty good setup. In practice though, if I click to do a full project rebuild on Visual Studio 7 and immediately try to launch IE, the IE window will not pop up until compilation is finished on VS. I have no idea if VS just gives itself realtime priority to speed up compile times, but in any case the user experience is pretty crappy. I can't remember that sort of thing ever happening on AmigaOS 3.1, and BeOS (and recent Linux kernels) are said to be able to play multiple MPG videos simultaneously without any single player degrading more than the others. In other words, it's possible to do it "properly". As usual, MS seems to have a basically good design, but a lousy implementation.
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@byhman1
Ok, I'm not full of angst. I was just making some humor.
Actually, Windows XP is extra friendly. Like those big fat Crayola kidie markers. I get this warm fuzzy feeling every time I boot it up.
Besideds, a little counter culture is a good thing. Who wants us all marching around like Microsoft Nazis?
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I invoke Godwin's Law (http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html)!
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Yes, what is up with Visual Studio? It's alwfully slow sometimes.
Isn't Visual Studio integrated with IE somehow? Perhaps it's using a lot of the same shared libraries. I find myself running the IDE in High Priority most of the time, and it seems to speed it up.
I love making .NET Direct X programs though.
The potential for easy game developement is great, and Visual Basic is a whole lot of fun.
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With Executive you can have more schedulers to pick one... standard, market, remember, queues, super, feedback... all are fair-share schedulers.
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Yes, executive is a kick-ass program. I think I remember the Friedens saying that there would be hooks in OS 4 for plugging in your own scheduler, so it should be possible for someone to write an OS4 version of something like the Linux low-latency scheduler (http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0201.3/0257.html). That would be pretty cool, especially for things like audio work that need a very high level of responsiveness.