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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: trip6 on November 18, 2008, 07:51:31 PM
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Will a CD32 joypad work correctly with a Amiga 500\1200 and c64? Are they compatible? I know maybe all 4 buttons wont work correctly on the C64.
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Great with any amiga, dunno about the c64. Would think so becuase C-64 sticks work fine with Amigas. Even a Sega Genesis pad works fin on an Amiga.
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I had a 'Honeybee' CD32 joypad and it worked fine on my A1200 (although the extra buttons didn't work in 'normal' games). I see no reason why basic left/right/up/down + fire shouldn't work on an A500 or C64.
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Great with any amiga, dunno about the c64. Would think so becuase C-64 sticks work fine with Amigas. Even a Sega Genesis pad works fin on an Amiga.
No, no, NO!
Never use a Genesis/MegaDrive pad with an Amiga. Yes the sockets are the same, but it can fry one of the internal chips.
As for using CD32 pads with the 500/1200, I don't know. It should work as I have regularly used my CD32 pads with my A600's (before they broke last year).
If you wish to use other control pads with a C64 I suggest you search for the SX64. If I remembered correctly, thats the name of a new cool piece of tech that (depending on which unit you buy) will allow you to plug in NES, SNES, MegaDrive/Genesis, PS2 and a few other console pads into your C64! :)
Regards,
Lonewolf10
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i use my cd32 pads on al my amiga's, but some button combinanations can freeze or reset youre 64.
I tried it about 6 years ago thinking the connector was the same so ...
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I used Sega Genesis pads for many years. Now I use a Playstation adapter which emulates the CD32. Is this true that the use of Sega Genesis can fry the Amiga chips?
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Lonewolf10 wrote:
Great with any amiga, dunno about the c64. Would think so becuase C-64 sticks work fine with Amigas. Even a Sega Genesis pad works fin on an Amiga.
No, no, NO!
Never use a Genesis/MegaDrive pad with an Amiga. Yes the sockets are the same, but it can fry one of the internal chips.
As for using CD32 pads with the 500/1200, I don't know. It should work as I have regularly used my CD32 pads with my A600's (before they broke last year).
If you wish to use other control pads with a C64 I suggest you search for the SX64. If I remembered correctly, thats the name of a new cool piece of tech that (depending on which unit you buy) will allow you to plug in NES, SNES, MegaDrive/Genesis, PS2 and a few other console pads into your C64! :)
Regards,
Lonewolf10
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I've used a Genesis pad for years with no problems also. Swap 2 wires and all the buttons work (instead of 2). Hired guns used these 3 button Genesis pads and told what lines to swap. No mention of being bad for chips either.
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If Genesis pads aren't supposed to work with Amigas then why do some games support the extra buttons on a Genesis pads?
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matthey wrote:
I've used a Genesis pad for years with no problems also. Swap 2 wires and all the buttons work (instead of 2). Hired guns used these 3 button Genesis pads and told what lines to swap. No mention of being bad for chips either.
Have you the instructions at hand? :-D
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i've used a six button pad with my A500 for years with no modification... maybe i just got lucky? :-? but a Cd32 pad will work fine with all other amiga's. just get a copy of lowlevel.library to allow games that can understand cd32 pads to be able to use all the extra buttons.
i use a playstation to CD32/amiga adapter on my a1200. and i've only got one honeybee CD32 pad left :-( i had four at somepoint. no idea where they've gone... :roll:
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Thanks for the repsonses.... Where can I get lowlevel.lib from?
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trip6 wrote:
Thanks for the repsonses.... Where can I get lowlevel.lib from?
Workbench 2.1 onwards? :roll:
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I used Sega Genesis pads for many years. Now I use a Playstation adapter which emulates the CD32. Is this true that the use of Sega Genesis can fry the Amiga chips?
I think one of the extra buttons, when pressed, bridges a signal to a ground pin on the Amiga. I suppose if you're very unlucky that could damage a CIA, but I've never heard of that actually happening. (Of course, CIAs are probably a bit more fragile now after they've aged 15-20 years...)
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So then my question is based on the last response here... Which are the good ok to use buttons (color)? And whiach are the bad extra buttons I should not use (color)? (When used on an A500\A1200?
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rkauer wrote:
matthey wrote:
I've used a Genesis pad for years with no problems also. Swap 2 wires and all the buttons work (instead of 2). Hired guns used these 3 button Genesis pads and told what lines to swap. No mention of being bad for chips either.
Have you the instructions at hand? :-D
Sure, swap lines 5 & 7...
http://psygnosisamiga.free.fr/games/hiredguns/instructions2.pdf
The 3rd button (A) will then be readable by any Amiga programs that support the 3rd button and is easily read in an OS friendly way. Unfortunately, not many games supported it. The CD32 pads work some magic to get more than 3 buttons and the Genesis pad 3rd button is not equivalent to any buttons on the CD32 pad.
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trip6 wrote:
So then my question is based on the last response here... Which are the good ok to use buttons (color)? And whiach are the bad extra buttons I should not use (color)? (When used on an A500\A1200?
The Genesis doesn't use colored buttons. The buttons are A,B,and C. B is the commonly used button on the Amiga. C is used as the alternate button and supported by a few games like Mortal Kombat, StreetFighter and Chaos Engine. The A button has to have lines 5 and 7 swapped internally to work on the Amiga and then Hired Guns is the only game I know that uses all 3 buttons but there could be others. Support for the 3rd (A) button is very easy to add in software and doesn't require the likes of the lowlevel.library.
The CD32 pad has the colored buttons and all the buttons are fine to use on any Amiga. The lowlevel.library is needed to read the CD32 joypad or very specific hardware knowledge.
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The only game that doesn't work with a CD32 joypad is Street Fighter 2.
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Lonewolf10 wrote:
If you wish to use other control pads with a C64 I suggest you search for the SX64. If I remembered correctly, thats the name of a new cool piece of tech that (depending on which unit you buy) will allow you to plug in NES, SNES, MegaDrive/Genesis, PS2 and a few other console pads into your C64! :)
The SX-64 is the "transportable" C64 with built-in 5" color monitor and 5 1/4" drive. You must be thinking of the 64JPX, marketed by Nick Coplin at http://www.64hdd.com
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
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The original Mega Drive Pad didn't work with Amiga, but later they modified it (added some extra wires in the port) and they worked fine with Amigas, also Ataris, C64 and C128s. I think Sega or the pads manufacturer made the decision to add the extra compatibilities to sell more joypads on alien (competitive) markets. I remember having Mega Drive pads which didn't work on Amiga but worked fine with the Sega Mega Drive. The non working pads needed some rewiring to work on Amiga, and as an extra feature I used 3 buttons, but not the Hired Guns A - button. First was the standard Fire button. Second was the Fire 2 button, mostly used by me in Turrican games. And the third button I simply attached it to the wire of the Up and I had a jump button, which is not real third button, but very good for Platforms games, to jump with it.
The Amiga was designed by some of the original Atari 2600 team, and Atari 2600 joysticks in fact work fine on Amiga, but it was already outdated in 1985. Having only 1 button on the Joystick/Joypad is stupid and many Amiga games sucked because of this. I think 2 or 3 buttons Joystick should be set as standard for Amiga, back in 1985. I remember many people preferred to play on the Sega Mega Drive or even NES because the games there supported more buttons and were much more easy and enjoyable to play.
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speaking from personal preference, i found the sega 3 and 6 button pads to be much more comfortable than the cd32 pads, or even the playstation pads...