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Title: Virus in my A500
Post by: on November 29, 2002, 10:02:03 PM
There´s a virus in my A500. I´d like to get rid of it but I don´t have proper programs. What is a good prog for me and can I get it?
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on November 29, 2002, 10:05:35 PM
I've got some anti-virus on my A1000 called "VirusX".. I can get it off if you can't find anything (mabye, lol).. it's free.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on November 29, 2002, 10:16:34 PM
Yeah, I can get it off and send it to you if you want it.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: Castellen on November 29, 2002, 10:20:35 PM
There's also lots of good antivirus progs on Aminet.  VirusZ,
VirusCheckerII and VirusExecutor are some popular ones.
Not sure if they'll all run under OS 1.3 though.

Unless your A500 has a hard drive attached to it, it can't store
a virus as everything in memory is erased when the power is turned
off.
So it would be a matter of going through your disks and virus checking
them all.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on November 29, 2002, 10:20:44 PM
Quote

A1000JH wrote:
Yeah, I can get it off and send it to you if you want it.

please, send to me! check my e-mail from my profile
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on November 29, 2002, 10:22:04 PM
That's what VirusX does, checks floppies. What e'll do is telnet it over from my A to my PC and then send it to you. Oh yeah, my A1000 also has OS 1.3, so ital work on your 500.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on November 29, 2002, 10:53:21 PM
Thanks A1000JH!!!

Quote

Castellen wrote:
There's also lots of good antivirus progs on Aminet.  VirusZ,
VirusCheckerII and VirusExecutor are some popular ones.
Not sure if they'll all run under OS 1.3 though.

Unless your A500 has a hard drive attached to it, it can't store
a virus as everything in memory is erased when the power is turned
off.
So it would be a matter of going through your disks and virus checking
them all.


If I check all my disks and do something to infected ones, the virus has been eliminated? Viruses can get from disk to another only when i change disks without switchin power off. Am I right? I don´t have hd
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on December 02, 2002, 04:29:42 AM
I'm sorry I'm taking so long. I haven't had access to a computer which I can telnet to. I will keep trying though. :-)
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: cyka_delik on December 02, 2002, 09:05:58 AM
Once I had a Virus on my A500 all it did was say that it was there but didn't do anything.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on December 02, 2002, 11:19:30 AM
Hi....

If there is OS 1.2 or 1.3 in that A500, you have to use a program like "VT-Schutz" (The German killer). The other ppl talks about a program called "VirusX", dont use it, it is outdated, and can only find around 25 viruses. A program like "VT-Schutz" can find well over 700 viruses, and is the only program that will work under OS 1.2 or 1.3.

If your A500 has OS 2.0 or higher, you can use VirusZ, VirusExecutor or Mill. But remember to have the newest xvs.library (ExternalVirusScanner.Library) installed.

U can find all these programs at the Virus Help Team's websites www.vht-dk.dk (http://www.vht-dk.dk)

Please all, dont use outdated antivirus programs, U have no protrction at all....

Kind Regards...
Jan Andersen
Virus Help Denmark
www.vht-dk.dk
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: Castellen on December 02, 2002, 11:36:26 AM
Good point, if it's a relatively new virus, then the older anti-virus
software may simply ignore it.

Some virus could get transfered between disks if you insert them into
the A500 without resetting it first.  Of course it depends on the
virus type.  Some migrate (spread) very easily while others don't.

The best thing to do is use a current virus checker on a higher end
computer to find out exactly what kind of virus it is, and if possible
let it remove the virus from the disks for you.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on December 02, 2002, 05:54:25 PM
You also have a good point there, with checking disk's and software on a Amiga with OS2.0 or higher, that is absolutly right !!!

But if you write-protect your disk's the viruses cant be spread (unless you have a HD).

But in the Amiga world, no new viruses has been found for over a year now, and let us hope it stays that way.

You are all more that welcome to check out antivirus website for more information. Virus Help Team's Website (http://www.vht-dk.dk)

Okay... Cu all...

Kind Regards...

Jan Andersen
Virus Help Denmark
vht-dk@mail.dk
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: blobrana on December 02, 2002, 06:09:00 PM
@vht-dk
Hey, you must have a fair collection of virii ,now...

Anyway, i just got to thank you for getting rid of a nasty polymorphic one , that changed the mount command and infected hundreds of files, ( in an hour! ).

i had a back-up anyway.

Forget the name of it ( i wish i had a specimen...).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: odin on December 02, 2002, 07:13:16 PM
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vht-dk wrote:

But in the Amiga world, no new viruses has been found for over a year now, and let us hope it stays that way.



 :-o That's a really bad sign.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on December 02, 2002, 07:41:05 PM
Hi m8 !!!

Oh yes, We have about 99.5% of all Amiga viruses in our collection. And that this time only the Virus Test Center in Hamburg, Germany and Virus Help Denmark has this big a collection, but it is in safe hands, no one can get hold of them  :-D   I have my collection on two ZIP disks in a bank-box   :-P

Oh yes, some viruses are very bad, and are very hard to make a 'cure' for, but so far the antivirus programmers has been able to do all of them. And please all remember, that every antivirus program for the Amiga is FREEWARE, non of the antivirus programmers are getting monney of doing this. And they all have fulltime work, next to there antivirus programming. A man like  Georg Hoermann - VirusZ has been around for well over 13 years, and are still programming for the Amiga. Nice eh.... ????

Kind regards
Jan Andersen
Virus Help Denmark (http://www.vht-dk.dk)
vht-dk@mail.dk
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: odin on December 02, 2002, 08:41:29 PM
I ment....it's bad that there haven't been any new virii for so long. Says something about the state of the Amiga  software market =(, i.e. nonexistant.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: blobrana on December 02, 2002, 09:14:24 PM
Shhhh!

Keep it quiet!

But, i suppose THEY will target the new OS ,when it  gets more publicity.

Oh well, enjoy it while you can! :-D
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: Revener on December 02, 2002, 10:05:29 PM
Just be shure to make a copy of the disks before you try to remove any viruses sometimes the Viruskiller deletes files, and then the program won't work.  
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on December 02, 2002, 10:10:57 PM
Well, the viruses for PC and windows has exploded in the last years. Right now there is about 73.400 viruses and trojan for that market. The Amiga is (olny) about 800. So if any of your that are reading this, please send us all all new viruses and trojans for the Amiga if U find any....

lol.. Right now.... (naa better not say this in public)

Lets hope that Amiga will be virus free !!!!

Kind Regards
Jan Andersen
Virus Help Denmark (http://www.vht-dk.dk)
vht-dk@mail.dk
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: Jim on December 02, 2002, 10:44:43 PM
Quote

vht-dk wrote:
But if you write-protect your disk's the viruses cant be spread (unless you have a HD).


I remember reading somewhere, can't remember where, that write-protection simply doesnt protect at all.
It's just a softwareswitch saying that you can't write to the disk.
But a virii, or nonvirii, programmer can go around it and yet write on a writeprotected disk..

due to the switch not changing anything in the hardware..

(forgive me for the poor output, im tired, words are flying in my mind, and ive just turned 19)
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: blobrana on December 02, 2002, 10:58:17 PM
Yes , i read that is possible.
(but probably safe to ignore)

What is improbable ( i read once ) is for a virus to reside in the clock (mem-bat?) memory.

I remember that i once had GREAT problems with a
UNKNOWN program that kept crashing my machine.
This was a long time ago , I used my write protected
, original  wb disks, and i had  4 mb accelerator with
onboard clock ( for my 1200 ).
I never did find the Virus.
But , i can tell you, that when i reset the battery on the accelerator, all was fine...

Can anybody tell me i made this up?
 :-D
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: odin on December 02, 2002, 11:05:05 PM
AFAIK the write protect switch will make it physically impossible to write. But I could be wrong...
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: Doobrey on December 02, 2002, 11:36:01 PM
@vht-dk
Gotta say 2 things..
 1. A big thanks to you and all the VHT guys for keeping my amigas virus free over the years. I only ever found 3 virii ( and they were found before I installed or ran the infected files.)

2. Could you make virus checking more exciting?
  It`s a bit boring watching the scanning process..maybe add some dancing sheep to watch instead ;-)
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: on December 03, 2002, 06:15:07 AM
Hi all again !!

I'm gonna try to reply to all in this  :-P

This roumor about a virus survining in the battery of the clock has been going on for over 10 years, and we have never see in, so it is just a hoax.

If you write-protect your floppy disk, it is impossible is is impossible to write to  the disk. We have never seen ay program that can "out-run" the write-protection.

And Doobrey you must have an anti-virus program running i the back when you found the virus before installing, or do U check all software before installing it ?.  But that is very good.
 :-D Playing a game while checking for virus. I can remember that there once was a antivirus progarm, where you could play 'Tetris' when checking for virus, but I'm sorry to say that the program is outdated now    :-(   (But it was fun)

And thanx for the kind words... I'll pass them on to the real heros, the programmers....

Kind regards
Jan Andersen
Virus Help Denmark (http://www.vht-dk.dk)
vht-dk@mail.dk
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: Doobrey on December 05, 2002, 02:32:53 AM
@vht-dk
 I usually just virus check all new software before I install it. I also regularly run a full HD check just in case! (especially when new xvs libs are available)

 I recenty had to repair an ex-girlfriends PC.. I couldn`t believe it, riddled with viruses and trojans. I asked her what Antivirus she used, she said "what does an antivirus do?", and the question about firewalls left her with a blank look on her face!
 
I`m seriously beginning to believe that there should be a "computer license", to stop stupid people from being able to use  computers.
Title: Re: Virus in my A500
Post by: Castellen on December 05, 2002, 06:31:19 AM
Good plan to virus check software which comes from an unknown source.
In particular I've heard of a lot of pirated disks containing A500
bootlock virus, etc.

I know what you mean about the "computer licence" idea :-)
I used to work for a communications company who also sold cellphones,
cordless phones, faxes, etc.
We used to get so many moron customer complaints due to people not
reading instruction manuals, or who were generally just too thick to
use something.  That was particularly the case with fax machines.

We thought of having an "IQ rating" on all equipment, where
a customer's IQ would have to exceed that of the equipment's rating.

Of course that would have meant we'd hardly ever sell anything....