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Title: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: orb85750 on November 14, 2008, 02:30:04 AM
Is this just a date to get together to set another date, or something much more significant?  Verdict coming before the decade is over??

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washington/wawdce/2:2007cv00631/143245/118/
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: spihunter on November 14, 2008, 02:41:57 AM
At this point, who cares? Just use your Amiga (classic, OS4, MorphOS, Aros) and be happy.

that lawsuit will not amount to anything real.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: orb85750 on November 14, 2008, 06:30:08 PM
OK, probably true.  So I guess the consensus is that there is no hope for an officially sanctioned next generation Amiga?  Understandable given that it hasn't happened yet in this decade.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: weirdami on November 14, 2008, 06:48:51 PM
I think it was pretty real that AOS4 was released finally with hardware. Whether or not that has anything to do with the lawsuit I don't know, but it seemed pretty coincidental.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: persia on November 14, 2008, 08:54:16 PM
Amiga Inc's site has not been updated since 01 February.  Amiga Development India has a copyright date of 2005 and it's las news item is 22 Sept 2006.  So my guess is that with settlement Amiga Inc will sail into the sunset, if there's anyone left to even attend the court case that is and the haven't already sailed in to the sunset...

(http://www.tombraider4u.com/pictures/smileyf.gif)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: orb85750 on November 14, 2008, 10:06:07 PM
Well wouldn't it be nice if someone competent with genuine interest actually gets a hold of the Amiga trademark at some point?  It has only been -- Ummm -- how long now?  I won't hold my breath for the sleek new Amiga 5000.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Amithony on November 15, 2008, 12:18:06 AM
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persia wrote:
Amiga Inc's site has not been updated since 01 February.  Amiga Development India has a copyright date of 2005 and it's las news item is 22 Sept 2006.  So my guess is that with settlement Amiga Inc will sail into the sunset, if there's anyone left to even attend the court case that is and the haven't already sailed in to the sunset...

(http://www.tombraider4u.com/pictures/smileyf.gif)


What a disappointment the Amiga "branding" became! How the hell did it EVER come to this? Here's hoping it's a case of survival of the fittest, not the cheapest!
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: recidivist on November 15, 2008, 02:36:23 AM
 Commodore deserves its own chapter in the next edition of "Out of the Jaws of Victory:great military,political and business blunders."

 
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: jarrody2k on November 15, 2008, 04:29:04 AM
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orb85750 wrote:
Is this just a date to get together to set another date, or something much more significant?  Verdict coming before the decade is over??

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washington/wawdce/2:2007cv00631/143245/118/


Given the current market, Amiga Inc. would be fast running out of funds to pay Hyperion even should they win.  A hollow victory - a few dollars and an irrelevant OS for an irrelevant platform - though perhaps a moral one.

Everything that made Amiga great is now very much part of everything Apple releases these days.  Amiga will live the rest of its retirement in the hobbyists' basements and garages.

I would much prefer a pro-wrestling match between Amiga Inc and Hyperion.  It would be the perfect ending for Amiga's decade of corporate farce.

Jarrod
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Amithony on November 15, 2008, 07:15:20 AM
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jarrody2k wrote:
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orb85750 wrote:

Everything that made Amiga great is now very much part of everything Apple releases these days.  Amiga will live the rest of its retirement in the hobbyists' basements and garages.

Jarrod


Here's hoping that the Apple guys can succeed where Commodore failed. I guess the SAM will keep me happy for a while :)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Dandy on November 17, 2008, 06:51:23 AM
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orb85750 wrote:

Well wouldn't it be nice if someone competent with genuine interest actually gets a hold of the Amiga trademark at some point?  
...



I promise I will buy the Amiga rights & assetss as soon as the price comes down to 100€ ...
 ;-)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: mailman on November 17, 2008, 07:03:10 AM
Isn't the 5th January 45 days after (http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washington/wawdce/2:2007cv00631/143245/115/) the 20th November?
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Jupp3 on November 17, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
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OK, probably true. So I guess the consensus is that there is no hope for an officially sanctioned next generation Amiga? Understandable given that it hasn't happened yet in this decade.

I thought it happened long ago? :-o It's called AmigaDE / Amiga Anywhere :lol:
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Amithony on November 17, 2008, 11:20:44 AM
Bring on the creditors :)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: impactor on November 17, 2008, 11:28:13 AM
The sooner Amiga Inc. are consigned to the history books the better.  Good riddance.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Atheist on November 17, 2008, 11:28:21 AM
They're meeting in 72.5 hours.

I wonder when what transpires will be revealed to the public??!!!!
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Atheist on November 17, 2008, 11:50:54 AM
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impactor wrote:

The sooner Amiga Inc. are consigned to the history books the better.  Good riddance.

Hi impactor,

I totally agree, but unfortunately it's an attempt at mediation, and Amiga Inc. probably won't budge on their demands, making the whole exercise UTTERLY useless, as all they're asking is Hyperion lose everything, while Hyperion may be willing to enter a sharing arrangement, pretty much of what the original contract was, where Amiga Inc. gets royalties, and Hyperion can sell AOS4.x to who ever they want to, ported to whatever is available.

Amiga Inc. has been so vile, stupid, and done so many pointless activities absolutely throwing money away on anything but constructive ventures, that I don't even like the agreement way, and want to see them lose everything as well.

Hyperion Entertainment has a very solid case.

I attended the court case last year (May 31st) in Seattle and A. Inc. was very amusing, trying to stare down Hyperion's 1 lawyer with their 4 lawyers and an assitant. Bill McEwen was there (I figured out later when I was directed to a photo of him). I assume he thought things went swimmingly. :-D HAH! I don't think so.

Hyperion's lawyer was fantastic. I'd of figured him seeing so many on the opposing side would have phased him, it didn't at all.

I truly don't think Mr. Kinsel would have taken the case if he didn't think it had legs.


Check out Amiga Inc.'s big guns:

Counter Defendant: Amiga Inc
Represented By: Morgan W Tovey, Jeffrey Michael Tamarin, Lance Gotthoffer, Alison B Riddell, Kenneth Joe Philpot, Lawrence Ronald {bleep}, Lance Gotthoffer, Scott D Baker, Morgan W Tovey, Lawrence Ronald {bleep}, Jeffrey Michael Tamarin, Kenneth Joe Philpot, Alison B Riddell, Scott D Baker
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Atheist on November 17, 2008, 11:56:11 AM
Hey, the message board SW censored one of Amiga Inc.'s lawyer's names!!!! :-D :laughing:
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: impactor on November 17, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
Hi Atheist,

Yeah I guess my wish for the demise of Amiga Inc. is a little optimistic - dream on, eh?  :-D

Makes you think though, if they can afford to hire a "big-shot legal team", why Amiga Inc. never put some of that cash into doing some real development, but I guess this must be their last shot at glory? :lol:  

Victory to Hyperion.  :-D  
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Tripitaka on November 17, 2008, 12:55:54 PM
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jarrody2k wrote:

Everything that made Amiga great is now very much part of everything Apple releases these days.  Amiga will live the rest of its retirement in the hobbyists' basements and garages.

Jarrod



 :madashell: Damn I get sick of hearing this "I love Apple" crap. Amiga was great because of a fantastic vision of hardware and OS blended with a grace that is still in many ways unmatched. Mac's are bloody X86 pc's with a nice OS! I find it amazing that you made this comment given how many times we've covered such ground on this forum. Please just refrain from the mac comparisons, they are not that valid once you look a little closer and have taken up pages of forum posts so many times I've lost count.

Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: impactor on November 17, 2008, 01:12:17 PM
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Tripitaka wrote:

Please just refrain from the mac comparisons ...



 :lol: that rules  :roll:  :-D
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: persia on November 17, 2008, 07:17:14 PM
Hopefully a late Christmas present...

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Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Jupp3 on November 18, 2008, 07:47:03 AM
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Mac's are bloody X86 pc's with a nice OS!

What's bloody wrong with bloody X86 pc's?

Was there also something wrong with pre-X86 PowerPC Apple pc's?
Title: Re: Amiga Inc. vs. Hyperion -- Jan. 5th, 2009 is what, exactly?
Post by: Trev on November 18, 2008, 11:04:53 PM
@Tripitaka

Man, raggin' on the x86. Hardware is hardware. Every modern PC (read: personal computer) has function-specific hardware, and all modern operating environments do pretty much the same things: arbitrate access to hardware, interface with the user, control processes, provide a consistent look and feel, etc.