Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 08:26:05 AM
Post by: xeron on November 12, 2008, 08:28:00 AM
Post by: drHirudo on November 12, 2008, 08:50:43 AM
Post by: xeron on November 12, 2008, 08:56:08 AM
AW.net and A.org I find to be a good compliment to each other, even though they're very similar.
Post by: hooligan on November 12, 2008, 08:58:37 AM
Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 09:05:03 AM
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hooligan wrote:
Has to be amiga.com. Its endless resource for humour.
Here's hoping the A-cube offering becomes good enough to make them enough money to buy them out! How did such a great company become such a blight on the Amiga community. I almost dont consider them to be Amiga anymore, but for their history. I wonder how many of the Amiga die hard companies would be interested in being stakeholders of the company. I mean, if cloanto, acube, hyperion the aros community banded together, could they return the amiga to its former glory? I'm an eternal optimist.
Post by: xeron on November 12, 2008, 09:09:50 AM
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I almost dont consider them to be Amiga anymore, but for their history
There is nothing in Amiga, Inc's history that I would use to justify thinking of them as an "Amiga" company. The only good thing they did was licence OS4 development to Hyperion. If only they'd have just died properly afterwards.
Edit: The company that is, not the people.
Post by: hooligan on November 12, 2008, 09:12:34 AM
Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 09:22:56 AM
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IMO the final icing on the cake was the sportshall-disaster. Its not even funny how *many* quessed it was just another scam.
excuse my ignorance, what was the sportshall disaster? Ive been out of the game for a while.
Post by: hooligan on November 12, 2008, 09:30:43 AM
here's (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003813881_kentarena31m.html) one article about it:
Post by: weirdami on November 12, 2008, 09:30:48 AM
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hooligan wrote:
IMO the final icing on the cake was the sportshall-disaster. Its not even funny how *many* quessed it was just another scam.
Yeah, but everyone that "quessed" it was bad mouthing AI already anyway.
Post by: hooligan on November 12, 2008, 09:37:52 AM
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weirdami wrote:Quote
hooligan wrote:
IMO the final icing on the cake was the sportshall-disaster. Its not even funny how *many* quessed it was just another scam.
Yeah, but everyone that "quessed" it was bad mouthing AI already anyway.
Can you blame them?
Post by: zipper on November 12, 2008, 09:41:32 AM
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hooligan wrote:
here's (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003813881_kentarena31m.html) one article about it:
Some discussion here,too:
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/kent-wa/T6TE3BB2QIOPAK8OT
Post by: AmigaMance on November 12, 2008, 09:43:20 AM
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...and even Windows crap. Amigaworld.net is oriented in AmigaOS 4 much more and there you can find really informative topics, unlike on Amiga.org where it is slammed and trashed by people who did not touch anything Amiga since years.
xeron wrote:
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I wouldn't be so harsh on A.org, its a great site and very inclusive.
Both of you are right, imo.
Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 09:48:02 AM
Post by: hooligan on November 12, 2008, 09:48:47 AM
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zipper wrote:Quote
hooligan wrote:
here's (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003813881_kentarena31m.html) one article about it:
Some discussion here,too:
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/kent-wa/T6TE3BB2QIOPAK8OT
I replied to that thread with my real name, quote:
I for one would like this project to go ahead, to come back after a year and say: "told you so" :)
Sometimes its good to be correct at something hehe
Post by: Phantom on November 12, 2008, 09:59:03 AM
Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 09:59:50 AM
Post by: Atheist on November 12, 2008, 10:25:19 AM
AmigaWorld.Net was an excellent AmigaOS4.1 (and all other versions) website and should have stayed dedicated to AOS1.0-4.x but it didn't so I abandoned it, not as TakeMeHomeGrandma thought, I didn't get banned from there. (I was temporarily banned and then left after it was over.)
Amigans.Net is my favorite now.
I think that there are too many messageboards for the amount of Amiga users that there are and that losing AmigaWorld.Net the way we did was a terrible disaster.
Oh and, Amiga Inc. is just going to go bankrupt soon anyway (when it's proven in court that they don't own AOS4.x source code nor even "Amiga" copyright and trademarks long ago lost to Hyperion Ent.), so no point in offering them $10, when they expect a preposterous bid in excess of $50,000,000!!!!!!!
Now, HYPERION ENTERTAINMENT, OTOH hand in my opinion will be worth more than that in 5 years or so.
Not joking.
BTW, the stadium thing was probably the funniest thing A Inc. has done thus far, and they have a few more good ones left I would wager. You know, last year in court (May 31st) they had FOUR lawyers and an assistant there to battle Hyperion's legal representative. I was VERY amused at how they dismally failed. Weak (joke) case.
Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 10:37:21 AM
Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 10:44:53 AM
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What is "Amiga Inc" AKA KMOS worth? Are they listed on any stock exchange?
I was thinking KMOS reminded me of Chaos from Get smart. An uncanny resemblance perhaps? :)
Post by: zipper on November 12, 2008, 10:49:15 AM
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I was thinking KMOS reminded me of Chaos from Get smart. An uncanny resemblance perhaps? :)
Wasn't it KAOS...
Post by: Amithony on November 12, 2008, 10:51:19 AM
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zipper wrote:QuoteI was thinking KMOS reminded me of Chaos from Get smart. An uncanny resemblance perhaps? :)
Wasn't it KAOS...
I knew it!!! That proves it :-D
Well spotted!
Post by: adz on November 12, 2008, 11:38:26 AM
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drHirudo wrote:
I vote for AmigaWorld.net too. It is more Amiga oriented than Amiga.org since many years, while Amiga.org is more diversed with AROS, Linux, MorphOS and even Windows crap. Amigaworld.net is oriented in AmigaOS 4 much more and there you can find really informative topics, unlike on Amiga.org where it is slammed and trashed by people who did not touch anything Amiga since years. That's why these days AmigaWorld.net is more preferred domain for me and seems not only me.
Let me show you the door then... :roll:
Post by: JuvUK on November 12, 2008, 12:15:30 PM
Post by: cv643d on November 12, 2008, 12:33:40 PM
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drHirudo wrote:
I vote for AmigaWorld.net too. It is more Amiga oriented than Amiga.org since many years, while Amiga.org is more diversed with AROS, Linux, MorphOS and even Windows crap. Amigaworld.net is oriented in AmigaOS 4 much more and there you can find really informative topics, unlike on Amiga.org where it is slammed and trashed by people who did not touch anything Amiga since years. That's why these days AmigaWorld.net is more preferred domain for me and seems not only me.
Sorry I dont get it. Is AROS and MorphOS bad things?
Do you know that they are in some ways connected to Amiga?
Why would someone interested in Amiga not be interested in news/discussions regarding those subjects?
Post by: Voyager74 on November 12, 2008, 12:34:47 PM
Many go up, even more go down.
Feels like my vote goes to ye' faithfull:
http://safir.amigaos.se/main.php
Our own Swedish Amiga-forum!
Post by: jj on November 12, 2008, 12:57:03 PM
TO be honest, this is the only site I visit regualrly.
Post by: tonyyeb on November 12, 2008, 01:06:42 PM
Post by: Quagmire on November 12, 2008, 01:16:05 PM
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Sorry I dont get it. Is AROS and MorphOS bad things?
Do you know that they are in some ways connected to Amiga?
Why would someone interested in Amiga not be interested in news/discussions regarding those subjects?
Exactly I don't see the prob, It's all Amiga related :-)
As for the other best Amiga website I'd say Amibay :-D as it's a superb way to buy/sell and swap.
Post by: Oli_hd on November 12, 2008, 01:31:59 PM
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What is your favourite website for the Amiga?
Abime.net (http://eab.abime.net/)
a1k.org (http://www.a1k.org/forum/)
and Amigaworld.net (http://www.amigaworld.net/)
Post by: Protek on November 12, 2008, 01:51:50 PM
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tonyyeb wrote:
EAB gets a vote for me. It is more light hearted than other Amiga sites.
I second that. :-)
Post by: chiark on November 12, 2008, 02:13:45 PM
Post by: Quixote on November 12, 2008, 02:33:45 PM
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Amithony wrote:
How did such a great company become such a blight on the Amiga community?
:-( A good proportion of that was rumor and lies repeated on message forums until they morphed into "common knowledge." That's part of why I post so seldom these days.
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I'm an eternal optimist.
:inquisitive:Bill McEwen and company were optimists, too. They never set out to deceive anyone. Always remember that no one is the villain in his own eyes.
Post by: Hans_ on November 12, 2008, 02:37:51 PM
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cv643d wrote:Quote
drHirudo wrote:
I vote for AmigaWorld.net too. It is more Amiga oriented than Amiga.org since many years, while Amiga.org is more diversed with AROS, Linux, MorphOS and even Windows crap. Amigaworld.net is oriented in AmigaOS 4 much more and there you can find really informative topics, unlike on Amiga.org where it is slammed and trashed by people who did not touch anything Amiga since years. That's why these days AmigaWorld.net is more preferred domain for me and seems not only me.
Sorry I dont get it. Is AROS and MorphOS bad things?
Do you know that they are in some ways connected to Amiga?
Why would someone interested in Amiga not be interested in news/discussions regarding those subjects?
I don't see it as a matter of whether the other systems are bad or not. Think of it this way: MorphOS has a dedicated forum; AROS has a dedicated forum; so why can't Amiga OS 4.x have a dedicated forum too?
Hans
Post by: bloodline on November 12, 2008, 02:56:29 PM
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cv643d wrote:Quote
drHirudo wrote:
I vote for AmigaWorld.net too. It is more Amiga oriented than Amiga.org since many years, while Amiga.org is more diversed with AROS, Linux, MorphOS and even Windows crap. Amigaworld.net is oriented in AmigaOS 4 much more and there you can find really informative topics, unlike on Amiga.org where it is slammed and trashed by people who did not touch anything Amiga since years. That's why these days AmigaWorld.net is more preferred domain for me and seems not only me.
Sorry I dont get it. Is AROS and MorphOS bad things?
Do you know that they are in some ways connected to Amiga?
Why would someone interested in Amiga not be interested in news/discussions regarding those subjects?
I don't see it as a matter of whether the other systems are bad or not. Think of it this way: MorphOS has a dedicated forum; AROS has a dedicated forum; so why can't Amiga OS 4.x have a dedicated forum too?
Hans
No problem, set one up then. :-)
Post by: xeron on November 12, 2008, 03:34:39 PM
*Was pretty funny seeing people with no interest in OS4 claiming to boycott a site that wasn't trying to cater for them anyway...
Post by: redrumloa on November 12, 2008, 03:55:32 PM
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drHirudo wrote:
I vote for AmigaWorld.net too. It is more Amiga oriented than Amiga.org since many years, while Amiga.org is more diversed with AROS, Linux, MorphOS and even Windows crap. Amigaworld.net is oriented in AmigaOS 4 much more and there you can find really informative topics, unlike on Amiga.org where it is slammed and trashed by people who did not touch anything Amiga since years. That's why these days AmigaWorld.net is more preferred domain for me and seems not only me.
Please read the Posting Guidelines (http://www.amiga.org/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=6).
[color=ff0000]Cardinal Rules
* No trolling. Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people angry. [/color]
This is your first warning.
Post by: drHirudo on November 12, 2008, 04:12:48 PM
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Let me show you the door then... :roll:
Excuse me, but who are you?
Are you the owner of this house to show me the door?
Post by: rzookol on November 12, 2008, 04:17:10 PM
MZone/Aros-exec.org
AW.net
moobunny
Post by: pVC on November 12, 2008, 04:22:25 PM
I've never liked forums divided too much into different sub platforms. That's why I like amiga.org, I want to know what happens on all amiga systems, not just on the ones I own. But PC and non-amiga stuff is out of my interest and can be freely ditched :) It would be so much easier and more fun that we wouldn't have morphzone or amigaworld as separate... if we'd only have one perfect place :P
Post by: redrumloa on November 12, 2008, 04:46:18 PM
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Amithony wrote:
What is your favourite website for the Amiga?
There are other sites :-?
Just kidding. While amiga.org is hands down my favorite, just about any website devoted to the Amiga has it's place.
Post by: TNovosel on November 12, 2008, 05:22:59 PM
www.Amiga.org
www.AmigaWorld.net
...and all other Amiga related sites ;-)
Post by: steve30 on November 12, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
Besides Classicamiga, I also like Greg Donner's Workbench Nostalgia pages (www.gregdonner.org)
Can I also vote for my own website, www.stevecoates.net ? There is hardly anything on it at the moment, but I do intend to put some of my own amiga related content on it eventually.
Post by: Lorraine on November 12, 2008, 06:08:46 PM
Post by: tonyyeb on November 12, 2008, 06:30:26 PM
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I am also watching your site now - could be a good national user group over time!
I am trying to improve the site. I think activity will grow when we start discussing the show for next year.
Post by: Andeda on November 12, 2008, 06:31:14 PM
And yes i spend a lot of time on Finnish Amiga Users Group forum too :-D
Post by: jorkany on November 12, 2008, 06:53:41 PM
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Sorry I dont get it. Is AROS and MorphOS bad things?
Do you know that they are in some ways connected to Amiga?
Why would someone interested in Amiga not be interested in news/discussions regarding those subjects?
Same reason Protestants aren't Catholics.
Also want to add, amiga.org seems to be the most balanced Amiga site with the largest following. I'm sure everyone knows how I feel about OS4, but here it can be discussed along with MOS, AROS, and AmigaOS because (most) people understand that all are related to Amiga. That's how it should be. And amiga.org usually provides answers to people who have any Amiga-related question. For these reasons I think amiga.org is the best Amiga site.
Post by: VooDoo on November 12, 2008, 07:21:15 PM
Post by: VooDoo on November 12, 2008, 07:22:52 PM
www.Amiga.org
www.AmigaWorld.net
...and all other Amiga related sites
wohooo frende...hvala na reklami :) ...ak bude sve kak treba uskoro cu raditi na novom designu stranice...
Post by: adz on November 12, 2008, 08:00:54 PM
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Excuse me, but who are you?
Ummm, last time I checked, I was still adz :-?
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Are you the owner of this house to show me the door?
At no point did I indicate that I was, I just don't understand why people visit places they clearly do not like :shrug:
Post by: terminator4 on November 12, 2008, 08:36:32 PM
it would be amigaworld.net.
Post by: mingle on November 12, 2008, 10:26:29 PM
Certainly the best Amiga games site.
Ah, the memories...
Post by: klx300r on November 12, 2008, 10:37:08 PM
Post by: Methuselas on November 12, 2008, 10:38:04 PM
Duh.
:-P
Post by: Atheist on November 13, 2008, 01:06:14 AM
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At no point did I indicate that I was, I just don't understand why people visit places they clearly do not like
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Hi adz,
I was perpetually perplexed by that very same sentiment when I was an extreme poster on AmigaWorld.Net when hoardes of trolls traversed the domain continually!
P.S. Hmmm, copied the src image of the smilie letter for letter and can't get it to appear???
Post by: redfox on November 13, 2008, 01:41:13 AM
Post by: redfox on November 13, 2008, 01:44:54 AM
Amiga.org and Amigaworld.net
:pint:
redfox
Post by: mdivancic on November 13, 2008, 03:38:37 AM
:-)
Post by: B00tDisk on November 13, 2008, 04:02:58 AM
Most of the folks who post here and at eab aren't suffering under any delusion that Hyperion will be worth $50m in five years or that any day now the world will embrace poor old creaky Amiga OS (or Morphos, or AROS etc.) and en masse abandon Apple, Windows or any of the dozen or so supported OS choices out there.
IOW, they use the Amiga for fun, which considering the hobby niche is really what it should be about. Like the guys who push A600's to the max - they don't honestly think "Well this is a better general computing platform that an equally equipped Mac or PC of the same vintage treated to the same types of upgrades". They do it because it's fun.
Post by: Tahoe on November 13, 2008, 07:15:37 AM
I'm also a frequent visitor to a1k.org (http://www.a1k.org/forum/)
Post by: Chain on November 13, 2008, 08:12:57 AM
Post by: Damion on November 13, 2008, 08:37:04 AM
Post by: dammy on November 13, 2008, 11:00:28 AM
AROS-exec use to be my other top Amiga web site, but I'm losing interest fast. AW still is in my daily visit schedule, people there just amazes me.
Dammy
Post by: Retro_71 on November 13, 2008, 11:23:21 AM
Post by: Phantom on November 13, 2008, 12:00:10 PM
Doh!!! Oh oh.... you lost interest... :-D
Post by: marcfrick2112 on November 13, 2008, 01:13:42 PM
;BEGIN Rant
(OK, I was sort-of 'new' to Internet forums ATT, but all I got was demeaning responses, RTFM, etc. Being lectured by people who only run C-64's via emulation...I've had at least one working C-64 since %&$#@ 1983!! Everyone makes mistakes, and everyone's a 'newbie' sometime... it would have been better if a Mod. suggested to read a FAQ, remind about the rules, etc. .... (As Red did earlier in this thread) instead they just drove me and several friends away... )
Lemons are sour, Very sour... :-x
;END Rant
Post by: krize on November 13, 2008, 01:49:25 PM
http://eab.abime.net - Amiga forum, everything, mostly classic
http://amiga-news.de - News site, in German, but always the fastest..
http://morphzone.org - Morphos forum, also many classic users
http://amigaworld.net - Amiga forum, all kinds but focus on OS4
http://amiga.bbs.fi - Amiga Demo scene releases, great one
http://polarboing.com - The Norwegian page, i need to be more active there :)
Post by: buzz on November 13, 2008, 02:19:13 PM
http://www.exotica.org.uk/forum/
feel free to signup though and help kickstart it a bit!
Post by: on November 13, 2008, 02:28:27 PM
A few years ago, post being royally screwed by Bill Buck, I tried to refocus the site on the Amiga. I put the kybosh on talking about "Linux, MorphOS, and the other stuff" and all our active members went apes**t.
Result: Morphzone was born.
I tried to focus the site on the classic OS (since 4.x did not even exist -- and still debatably doesn't in any real number to quantify major effort) and got major complaints from everyone.
Result: Amigaworld.net was born.
The end result is that there is a cycle to all of this. A web site is created as a rebellion against another site. (Our inspiration was the now defunct AWD).
It grows in number and popularity. It finds its focus, people rebel and create a new Web site, ala;
AWD begat AO. AO begat AW.net. AW.net begat Amigans.net, etcetera.
The difference is, Amiga.org isn't going anywhere. I just need to actively remind each of you that if YOU want something covered, YOU have a responsibility to help focus the site that way.
I've given up trying to steer this proverbial boat in any given direction because any time I do, it backfires and creates division and controversy in the community, which is absolutely NOT what I want in any way..
I leave you with the comment, just like on the main page. This is your site guys. If you want it better, or more focused on something, then step up and help out. Post news, hit the forums, just have fun...
Wayne
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Post by: buzz on November 13, 2008, 04:09:05 PM
Post by: Lorraine on November 13, 2008, 05:05:10 PM
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Post by: klx300r on November 13, 2008, 11:22:39 PM
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marcfrick2112 wrote:
.... Lemon Amiga ? well, let's just say I was treated so badly when I posted on the Lemon C-64 forum, that I won't visit anything with 'Lemon' in it...
sorry to hear about that...I have only good experiences with LemonAmiga...great site and great people..of course there are a few idiots on there that most people ignore and/or tolerate ..of course amiga.org has absolutely none of those types :-P
Post by: Amithony on November 15, 2008, 12:57:51 AM
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krize wrote:
Favourite Amiga pages... Have changed over the years, but the ones still alive I visit:
http://eab.abime.net - Amiga forum, everything, mostly classic
http://amiga-news.de - News site, in German, but always the fastest..
http://morphzone.org - Morphos forum, also many classic users
http://amigaworld.net - Amiga forum, all kinds but focus on OS4
http://amiga.bbs.fi - Amiga Demo scene releases, great one
http://polarboing.com - The Norwegian page, i need to be more active there :)
Now thats nt a bad list at all. :)