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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: kickstart on November 05, 2008, 09:46:04 PM
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This is not a hurry up for the morphos developers is just curiosity about the status of morphos for the macmini, if anyone knows something about it maybe want to comment anything here... thanks.
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It's progressing fine. The Mac Mini port currently lacks network and audio support. Thus, a while to go.
Last weekend it was publically demoed at Bad Bramstedt, e.g. a 1080p h.264 video fluently replayed by Mplayer was shown. It was also said to get rolled out as soon as possible, but there's no estimation *which* date it may be.
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Nice news, thanks !
Someone of the MOS Team is already working on these lacks or are there problems to find documentation for network and audio on the mac mini ?
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Wow! great news, indeed!!
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Thats great! Audio and network shouldnt be a problem i think, sound of macmini is ac87?
Thanks for the info =)
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kickstart wrote:
Audio and network shouldnt be a problem i think, sound of macmini is ac87?
From this linux on mac mini (http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/#introduction) support page, it says...
Apple 10/100Mbit ethernet (Sun GEM) and "Apple intrepid audio"...
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That is cool! My Mac, a 1.6GHzG4 with nVidia 6200 256MB graphics card, can't play 1080p video worth squat. It just goes to show, the Mac OS is kind of a pig. I use it, I like a lot of things about it, but with that much CPU, I shouldn't have the slowdown issues that I have, such as while typing this in, the periodic slowdown and hurried catch up of the cursor. CPU monitor shows like 34 percent CPU usage, yet user input still stutters.
If only I could afford the MOS registration for the PegII. But we're having a bit of a hiccup right now, they closed my wife's office so she's temping :-( Temp gig=not enough money between us for toys right now. Also lots of rain, which means not lots of bike shop customers.
Anyway, yes, I'd love to prime these Mac boxes with MorphOS instead. All I need for that is a firewire stack, SATA drivers for my RAID card, and some iMovie like application so I can edit my videos occasionally.
Geez, it's descended from Amiga, you'd think it could do video ;-) But I know, one thing at a time.
Thank MorphOS guys for this port!
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zylesea wrote:
It's progressing fine. The Mac Mini port currently lacks network and audio support. Thus, a while to go.
Last weekend it was publically demoed at Bad Bramstedt, e.g. a 1080p h.264 video fluently replayed by Mplayer was shown. It was also said to get rolled out as soon as possible, but there's no estimation *which* date it may be.
That is *truly* impressive! :-o :-D
BTW, I guess the MacMini was OC'd to 1.58GHz?
And was it a standard, public mplayer?
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Wow, this is sounding great. Will this be any good on a G3 iBook do we think? Driver issues i'm guessing will be the biggest problem.
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Maybe having MOS for the Mac Mini will motivate the Hyperion team to go back to work on the Moana project. It could also do the opposite as they might not want to have a direct comparison of AOS4.1 to MOS2.1, or MOS3.0, unless the AOS team is confident that they have a better OS. (I probably should not have opened that door as the flamers are sure to pour in now).
Anyway, I for one would like to see both AOS and MOS running on the same hardware to see a fair comparison. I doubt it will ever happen though.
The prospect of having so many new choices and potential for other new hardware to run AmigaOS and Amiga compatible OSes has never been better than it is right now. Who would have thought two years ago that in 2008/2009 we Amiga users would have the problem of too many different choices for new hardware, SAM440ep, SAM440flex, EFIKA, MacMini, NatAmi, MiniMig v1.1, MiniMig-miniITX, GBA1000 DIY project. That is quite a list for a supposed "Dead" platform.
What a great time to be an "Amigan"!
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tonyyeb wrote:
Wow, this is sounding great. Will this be any good on a G3 iBook do we think? Driver issues i'm guessing will be the biggest problem.
AFAIK it's Mac Mini *only*.
But that's great anyway. They are small, have only a single CPU (which is perfect for the Amiga), ATI Radeon 9200 graphics (which is good since drivers exist), they are the cheapest of the G4 Mac's (very important feature IMHO), and they can run at very nice speed. Besides, they are very good looking! :-)
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@ takemehomegranda
The first MorphOS release with Mac support (most likely V2.3, V2.2 will come very soon and be for Peg & Efika) will introduce Mac Mini support only. But the developer is all open to extend support o more Macs, namely Radeon driven G4 notebooks. But it also depends on availability of developer maschines...
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zylesea wrote:
@ takemehomegranda
The first MorphOS release with Mac support (most likely V2.3, V2.2 will come very soon and be for Peg & Efika) will introduce Mac Mini support only.
Let's see whether they will call the Mac enabled version 2.3 or 3.0. I mean, 2.0 to 2.1 (Pegasos and Efika) upgrade was *free* for registered users, and I guess the 2.1 to 2.2 will be as well (like 2.x), but with the Mac an entire new HW platform is introduced, so...
But the developer is all open to extend support o more Macs, namely Radeon driven G4 notebooks.
Awesome! :-)
A laptop MorphOS system! Wow! :-)
But it also depends on availability of developer maschines...
What do you mean by that? It depends on some bounty system for hardware, or what?
Well, I'd chip in some for that! :-)
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zylesea:
is there a release date or a range for MorphOS support for the Mini? Also, *ANY* G4 Mini will run MorphOS 2.3 or 3.0, right?
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Cool, definitely it's getting better for the minis :-D
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zylesea wrote:
Last weekend it was publically demoed at Bad Bramstedt, e.g. a 1080p h.264 video fluently replayed by Mplayer was shown. It was also said to get rolled out as soon as possible, but there's no estimation *which* date it may be.
Hmmmm ... I don't mean to cast doubt on what might have been demo'd, but what bitrate was that 1080p clip ? and was it truly 1920x1080 resolution ?
Cause my old G4 Mac Mini never came close to playing proper 1080p video files.
Mark
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
A laptop MorphOS system! Wow! :-)
But it also depends on availability of developer maschines...
I have to quote Frank Mariak here:
Don't count too much on some notebook support, at least don't hold your braeth for that - you may risk to suffocate.
What do you mean by that? It depends on some bounty system for hardware, or what?
If you have a spare iBook or such, you may ask if it would be helpful to provide it as developement maschine. AFAIK hardware is generally welcomed, but 1st thing to do is ask on #morphos if it is of any help.
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the only problem I see is that most macmini's had 32mb vram, and only the last models had 64mb vram, which is not enough.
I know my efika at 1680x1050 with 128mb vram on a radeon agp card has some shearing/tearing... I dont even know if 1680x1050 would even work on 64mb ram let alone 32mb vram...
The mini's were close in design to some of the older powermacs so that might be a better option to get one of the mirror door, etc models that you can replace the gfx card...
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Morphos for G4 towers would be nice even if I have to swap out the video card.(Amiga OS) would be nice,too)
I find MacMini more expensive than G4 towers.Have several here all bought for around $100 or less,including one with lcd display.And don't forget the lampshade iMacs!
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yakumo9275 wrote:
I know my efika at 1680x1050 with 128mb vram on a radeon agp card has some shearing/tearing... I dont even know if 1680x1050 would even work on 64mb ram let alone 32mb vram...
I have 1680x1050 16bit running on my Voodoo 16Mb and even had it running on a PIV if I recall correctly. The amount of VRAM should be sufficient.
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The amount of VRAM should be sufficient.
Yes, it might not be enough if you enable 3d layers, but my mini with 32MB handles a 1600x1200 display nicely.
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Back to life to this post...
Any news about the status of Morphos for PPC macminis?
Thanks.
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Due to success of my question... there is some site with info about morphos releases or something?
I think is a god idea to know some news about it sometimes.
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I've been kind of hoping for a version of MorphOS that runs on the old bulky transparent monitor macs you can pick up for free these days.
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unofficially, it was to be around the end of this month, and April, but as stated before the mini release, an update of current 2.2 is scheduled. I say wait, the release will come soon enough, If not mistaken, OS4 has something in the works too....This spring/summer is gonna be hot :lol:
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recidivist wrote:
Morphos for G4 towers would be nice even if I have to swap out the video card.(Amiga OS) would be nice,too)
I find MacMini more expensive than G4 towers.Have several here all bought for around $100 or less,including one with lcd display.And don't forget the lampshade iMacs!
One model at a time! Let the MorphOS team finish the port to the Mini before we start asking for other models. Unless there is a better PPC option that becomes available to the MorphOS team between now and the date they decide the team is finished working on the releases for the Pegasos, Efika and MacMini, maybe then they will decide to do more work on the MacMini port to make it work with other Mac models. It would make sense for them to do so, unless there is a better alternative to port to, or the team decides they are done porting MorphOS to other platforms and models.
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The lampshade iMacs are perfect candidates for Amigas, just paint the base to look like a Boing Ball...
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zyphoid wrote:
unofficially, it was to be around the end of this month, and April, but as stated before the mini release, an update of current 2.2 is scheduled. I say wait, the release will come soon enough, If not mistaken, OS4 has something in the works too....This spring/summer is gonna be hot :lol:
Rumour mill is spinning hot!
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I think this whole MacMini affair currently deserves a poll.
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A poll? no need to get silly now, it has been shown working already.
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Golem!dk wrote:
A poll? no need to get silly now, it has been shown working already.
I meant something different.
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I meant something different.
Let me guess.
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AmigaOS and MorphOS do run on the same hardware. AmigaOS 4.1 was released about a month ago for the PegII and several benchmarks have already been run.
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@zyphoid
Thats rumours sound really good... again.
@diskdoctor
There is some videos of macmini booting from morphos and developers talking about it, this is not vaporware, just wait for a release... i hope.
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Golem!dk wrote:
I meant something different.
Let me guess.
I meant to compare interest for Morphos and AmigaOS for the Minis. What is your point?
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@DiskDoctor
What I said.
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This screenshot is supposed morphos on macmini, not much information about this release but better than nothing.
http://obligement.free.fr/temp/morphos23.png
The screen is taken from morphzone.org