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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: redrumloa on November 01, 2008, 02:24:03 AM
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This bad boy has been seen in the wild less than the Loch Ness Monster!! :-o
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[color=ff0000]It works!! See below!![/color][/b]
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Welcome 2 new women to the Amiga family, Grace and Beauty!
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Any Amiga.org users have experience with the CDTV-II? This badboy may or may not be non-functional.
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Lorraine wrote:
Is this the cost reduced version which was never supposed to exist?!!!
What's different about it compared to the usual CDTVs?
Correct, it was never released for sale.
Info on Amiga-Hardware.com (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=34)
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redrumloa wrote:
Any Amiga.org users have experience with the CDTV-II? This badboy may or may not be non-functional.
The only Amiga.org user to have one (that I know of) is Oliver Hannaford-Day (Oli-HD) creator of http://www.cdtv.org.uk/ but I fear his is non working also.
What happens when you switch her on?
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alexh wrote:
The only Amiga.org user to have one (that I know of) is Oliver Hannaford-Day (Oli-HD) creator of http://www.cdtv.org.uk/ but I fear his is non working also.
What happens when you switch her on?
I get a little activity on the LCD (small rotating circle in the upper left hand corner) for a couple seconds when I turn on the power switch in the back. Then nothing until I hit the power switch up front when I get "CD-TV" on the lower left hand croner of the LCD, but that is it. It is completely unresponsive after that.
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Do you suppose it needs to load the operating system from the cd disc before anything more?
Does the cd drive spin if you have a disc in the drive?
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Can't put a disk in the drive yet, eject button is nonresponsive like everything else. I did just get a little information from the previous owner that there is an IDE module that is not currently hooked up and that the CDTV-II was indeed working when put into storage. I'm going to hunt down the IDE module and put it into place to see if she'll start up.
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Thanks for posting pics,etc.
There are so many great product ideas in all fields of endeavor that didn't make it in the market ,sometimes for reasons unrelated to the product's merits.Usually it is lack of marketing or other capital shortages.
I'm inspired to dig out my CDTV.
Maybe one of the CD32s as well.
YOu didn't happen to find any SX32 in that stash?
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@recidivist
Your welcome for the pics, if there are any picture requests now is the time to ask :-)
No sign of a SX32 yet, but I do have at least one CD1500 (CDTV Professional, makes CDTV a full computer) and a SCSI-TV.
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This is a great prototype to own if it is functional... get playing :-)
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YOu didn't happen to find any SX32 in that stash?
SX32 is found :-D
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Greg Scott of National Amiga used to have a working CDTV-II. I saw it in his office playing back an audio CD. He sold it to someone years ago, though. I should have bought it from him!! :)
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[color=ff0000]OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG[/color][/b]
[color=0000ff]It's alive!!!!!!!1!!!!!111!!!![/color][/b]
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:banana: :banana:
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redrumloa wrote:
No sign of a SX32 yet, but I do have at least one CD1500 (CDTV Professional, makes CDTV a full computer) and a SCSI-TV.
I'm guessing the SCSI-TV is just a SCSI controller for the CDTV, but what the CD1500? Never heard of it, just the CD500 (you just got working) and the CD1000 regular CDTV...
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@Tahoe
The CD1500 is the "CDTV Professional" expansion pack for the CDTV. It gives you a floppy, keyboard, mouse etc. It basically makes a CDTV into a full functioning computer.
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@red:
Ah, thanx! So that was all bundled in a kit form? Here they were just sold seperatly.
I managed to source all those seperate parts, last was the trackball which is now on it's way to me. Finally I can use regular joysticks on the CDTV :)
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Tahoe wrote:
@red:
Ah, thanx! So that was all bundled in a kit form? Here they were just sold seperatly.
Yup, there was a bundle.
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Youtube video:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhoNvaplt4 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhoNvaplt4)
Youtube made the video very dark again for some reason.
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Where do you find all these amazing toys? :-o
It's also amazing how forward thinking the engineers were.
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Argo wrote:
It's also amazing how forward thinking the engineers were.
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@redrumloa
So can you eject and boot discs? What was this IDE thing you mentioned??
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alexh wrote:
@redrumloa
So can you eject and boot discs? What was this IDE thing you mentioned??
Yes, or at least I was for a while. Now it stopped working again. I am very suspicious of the power supply. Anyone have a pinout of the power supply?
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Yup, I was right. The power supply has seriously leaky capacitors!!
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Electrolyte looks a bit different and those types of capacitors doesn't leak unless they are explode.
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DJBase wrote:
Electrolyte looks a bit different and those types of capacitors doesn't leak unless they are explode.
I don't know about that. I have a Televideo TS-803H that didn't work and had leaky capacitors that looks just like that. I re-capped the whole thing, which took many, many hours, and it works like a champ now.
If not electrolyte, what is it? Glue?
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I guess it is glue..
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Could be glue or something from Mars.
Well, these capacitors are dry out over years so changing them could be a good idea to get a stable PSU again.
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Inside this PS the leads are marked +5V, -12V etc. The green is marked CK and brown is marked SF. What the heck is SF and CK :-? CK shows ~2vdc AND 2vac on a MM. SF shows nada.
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redrumloa wrote:
Inside this PS the leads are marked +5V, -12V etc. The green is marked CK and brown is marked SF. What the heck is SF and CK :-? CK shows ~2vdc AND 2vac on a MM. SF shows nada.
Some type of Tick signal?
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Reseated all chips and cleaned CD rom connector and reseated it. Booting up again!
Stay tuned.
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Eerrr... the right word is "chupacabra" (goat sucker)
Anyway, AMAZING machine !! Congratulations!!
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Ok, so far it is struggling to load anything from CD. Maybe the CD head needs cleaned. However I loaded and played a couple games no problem using the built in floppy drive.
Testing will continue tomorrow.
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Those are not leaking caps. That yellow stuff is glue. However as mentioned already, they might be dried out by now so eventually a swap would be good.
Nice find BTW!
Please consider uploading super detail hardware pr0n photos to bboah.com and amiga.resource.cx!
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I'd guess CK means ClocK and is low voltage 60 cps so the system can sync the video to your tv .
SF MIGHT be "signal from" or SaFe ,or ?,something that tells the power supply its OK to send power.
Put an oscilloscope probe there to be sure.
There also has to a ground or return lead or trace.
I'm also wondering if there isn't a +12vdc .
5vdc is standard TTL IC power supply voltage/
CMOS ICs often use both +12 and -12vdc(which can be derived from a 9vac source .
If the electrolytic capacitors leak the goo is generally crumbly white and nasty;many assemblers evidently glue the larger capacitors to the boards.I have no idea why.
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many assemblers evidently glue the larger capacitors to the boards.I have no idea why.
they are heavy, that glue fix it in the position during transport/movements of device > its not hanging only on wires. more force applied on wires can damage electrode plates.
home its understandable
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redrumloa wrote:
Youtube video:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhoNvaplt4 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhoNvaplt4)
Youtube made the video very dark again for some reason.
Why the "UK" link?
...it made my whole youtube going experience stick in "uk." mode and I had to clear out my browsing data to get it back to normal.
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redrumloa wrote:
Welcome 2 new women to the Amiga family, Grace and Beauty!
Anyone know what Grace and Beauty are meant to do? I don't remember them being released in any other Amiga? Maybe they became Lisa?
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NovaCoder wrote:
Anyone know what Grace and Beauty are meant to do?
Yes, lots of places document what they did.
Grace ~= A600 Gayle (Gary + PCMCIA + IDE)
Beauty = LCD controller + IR receiver + I/O controller
Beauty effectively "mops up" all the expensive discrete logic present on the original CDTV 1 motherboard which gave it extra functionality over a regular A500.
NovaCoder wrote:
I don't remember them being released in any other Amiga?
I think you are right.
NovaCoder wrote:
Maybe they became Lisa?
Nah, Lisa is the AGA gfx chip. CDTV2 uses a standard ECS denise.
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Lorraine wrote:
Any more luck with this little gem Red?
Testing the power supply with a multimeter the +5VDC, +12VDC and -12VDC all seem rock solid. This unit is now starting up without problem. I can load and play games with the built in floppy drive, but the CD drive is choking. I am going to try cleaning the CD drive head, but I suspect it may need aligned.
All in all, I expect she will be on eBay here soon. :-(
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Dude, keep it! CDTV-IIs are so unique, I'd keep it unless you really need to sell it to make the whole driving a couple of thousand kilometres business profitable.
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Hi,
I reworked TV of the same aera. Most of little and medium caps were half dry. You should change them quickly before a damage happen (and take time to make lots of photos before doing this operation !!).
For the CD drive, is it a rebadged Mitsumi one like the regular CDTV ?