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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: jcassara on October 30, 2008, 09:33:48 AM
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I'm looking for an NTSC Amiga 600 in good shape with power supply and mouse.
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I will have a near mint boxed PAL A600 up for auction tonight, starting at $0.01 with no reserve. While it is PAL, I am here in the USA and it will include a US 110V power supply. It is also capable of displaying NTSC, which cab be selected in the early boot menu or in WB.
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But you will NOT get color out of the composite port in NTSC-land, just black and white. The only way to get color out of this system is with a PAL friendly monitor or by using RGB.
Switching to "NTSC mode" doesn't help, nor would using an A520 modulator.
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How much are you looking to pay? I have one that I might think about selling at the right price that's put away right now. It is not stock. If I recall correctly it has 3.1 rom, internal harddrive, extra ram. There also might have been one of those squirrel connectors for hooking up an external CD-rom drive (but that could be included or not depending on what someone wanted to pay. I think it also has original manuals and software.
Dan
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tone007 wrote:
But you will NOT get color out of the composite port in NTSC-land, just black and white. The only way to get color out of this system is with a PAL friendly monitor or by using RGB.
Switching to "NTSC mode" doesn't help, nor would using an A520 modulator.
Who doesn't use RGB? Composite output is horrible. I tested the A600 last night with a NTSC 1902 and PAL looked fine, just a little flicker. Switching to NTSC looks just like an NTSC system :-D
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I'm sure there are people out there who'd like to be able to hook a 600 up to a big TV, as it really is geared towards the gaming end.
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I used to have a stock NTSC A600 hooked to my gameroom TV and used it soley as a gaming system. Worked great that way. Wouldn't dream of using *that* A600 as my main Amiga computer hooked to RGB however. Not with the scarcity of NTSC/PAL capable 1084's especially. Others mileage may vary though!
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tone007 wrote:
But you will NOT get color out of the composite port in NTSC-land, just black and white. The only way to get color out of this system is with a PAL friendly monitor or by using RGB.
Switching to "NTSC mode" doesn't help, nor would using an A520 modulator.
This doesn't sound true at all. Especially that part about an A520 not working? How the hell would an A520 know what fricken RGB port it's hooked upto?
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@AmigaHeretic:
A520 adapters are also PAL and NTSC specific, so it matters.
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AmigaHeretic wrote:
tone007 wrote:
But you will NOT get color out of the composite port in NTSC-land, just black and white. The only way to get color out of this system is with a PAL friendly monitor or by using RGB.
Switching to "NTSC mode" doesn't help, nor would using an A520 modulator.
This doesn't sound true at all. Especially that part about an A520 not working? How the hell would an A520 know what fricken RGB port it's hooked upto?
Beats me, but I've got a PAL 600 here that proves it, and my PAL 500 agrees. Got any PAL hardware you can test to prove anything different?
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tone007 wrote:
Beats me, but I've got a PAL 600 here that proves it, and my PAL 500 agrees. Got any PAL hardware you can test to prove anything different?
PAL A520 (http://cgi.ebay.com/A520-video-interface-Commodore-Amiga-500-2000-3000-4000_W0QQitemZ120326083508QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247) :-?
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redrumloa wrote:
PAL A520 :-?
I imagine that'd work great.... on a PAL monitor. Though I don't have one of those to mess with.
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tone007 wrote:
Beats me, but I've got a PAL 600 here that proves it, and my PAL 500 agrees. Got any PAL hardware you can test to prove anything different?
Nope. Just never heard of it. Especially in the video game world (people using old PCEngines etc in the US, I've never heard of people having b/w screens, just the normal 50hz/60hz issue)
I suppose I can understand the circuitry built into for the composite connector being different I guess, but don't know why a standard A520 getting the signals from R G and B off the RGB port wouldn't work, but who knows. Very strange.
I wonder if my genlock would work, that gives great composite out.
A600 hooked to a TV would be sweet. I think a PAL one would be a PLUS as I wouldn't have to always try switch it to PAL to play most games/demos.
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If the PCEngines came from Japan (thought they were pretty popular there,) that could explain those working, Japan also uses NTSC.
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If it is of any use identity wise, here in the UK (PAL) my 520 has the following info on the sticker on the back.
Model 520
Serial No. MT2 1019094
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Funkentstort nach (Maybe a fellow user can translate)
DBP Vfg 1046/1984
Made in Taiwan
P/N 354028-02 40A069-002
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PAL A520s and NTSC A520s are definitely different. The reason is that the color encoding of PAL and NTSC composite signals are different. The RGB signals at the RGB port are the same (AFAIK). The HSYNC and VSYNC are naturally different.
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Sixteen posts, and ergo reply updates in my email, and only one of them meaningful. The rest useless pontification over NTSC vs. PAL. I asked for NTSC and will only accept NTSC.
Thanks.
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Do not take it as an afront to youself, as usual Amiga owners are only trying to help each other.
clint
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jcassara wrote:
Sixteen posts, and ergo reply updates in my email, and only one of them meaningful. The rest useless pontification over NTSC vs. PAL. I asked for NTSC and will only accept NTSC.
Thanks.
Well, NTSC ones I think are harder to find generally and first reply was Red saying he had a PAL one. Sorry, I did see that you were looking for an NTSC one, but missed the "NTSC Only" part. Oh wait it's not there. Sorry for the efforts to see if we could figure out if this would be an option.
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I have a mint A600HD NTSC for sale. $250. Comes with larger 2GB+ HD and 2MB Chip, preloaded with WHDLoad games. Mouse and PS included.
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AmigaHeretic wrote:
Sorry, I did see that you were looking for an NTSC one, but missed the "NTSC Only" part. Oh wait it's not there.
I'm sorry, but I have to support TS on this. I might be mistaken as English is not my mothertongue, but when TS states "I'm looking for an NTSC Amiga 600", I assume what he wants is an NTSC Amiga 600... Yeah, I know, silly me for thinking that.
Following your reasoning, TS also didn't mention "A600 only" which would then mean you can offer him a PAL A500 instead of the NTSC A600 he asks for, cause, hey, an A500 is an Amiga too! :-)