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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: redrumloa on October 25, 2008, 10:46:58 PM
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This was added the the red's bad a** sale thread, but it deserves it's own thread because of the rarity :-o
Genuine C= 4000T (only 200 ever made) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400004382938&indexURL=0#ebayphotohosting) for auction!! :-o
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Thats one mighty fine machine you have there for auction you should keep it for yourself, i know i would.
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I think I'll pass this time...
Besides, my A4000T is gonna be a lot prettier when I'm finished with my ultra-modification :-)
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redrumloa wrote:
This was added the the red's bad a** sale thread, but it deserves it's own thread because of the rarity :-o
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I just had to bid for it even though I don't have a snowballs chance in hell :flame: :madashell: of winning.
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Seems the original mainboard died. It already has a replacement board from Escom inside.
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How can you tell? If thats the case it would seem it's not all that genuine!
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But still... it makes me (http://bestsmileys.com/drooling/3.gif)
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Where did the number 200 come from?
Edit: Ah I see it came from BBoAH
The pictures show it has a 68060 Cyberstorm MKIII inside with 64Mbytes RAM. That's quite an expensive bit of kit on it's own. There is nothing about it in the advert. Does it come with it?
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/me lends alexh his classes ....
Look at the titlebar of your browser :roll:
/me whacks red for not stating it atleast 3 times in the advert
*lousy e-bayer* :lol:
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jimbo100 wrote:
How can you tell? If thats the case it would seem it's not all that genuine!
Look at the barcode sticker...thats the Escom type.
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Kronos wrote:
/me lends alexh his classes ....
/me lends Kronos his dictionary.
Kronos wrote:
Look at the titlebar of your browser :roll:
Ah, you do not usually expect information to be listed only in the auction title plus I use Google chrome where title bars are not really displayed anymore.
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DJBase wrote:
jimbo100 wrote:
How can you tell? If thats the case it would seem it's not all that genuine!
Look at the barcode sticker...thats the Escom type.
You really going to make me unpack all this and open the case again? Look at the back of the case. There is a barcode sticker right below the silver Commodore sticker.
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The CS060 could fetch a pretty penny. Lots of folks would still go apesh*t over this with just a A3640 card.
Still kicking myslef for selling my Scala A4000T...from Quickpack.
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redrumloa wrote:
You really going to make me unpack all this and open the case again? Look at the back of the case. There is a barcode sticker right below the silver Commodore sticker.
The bardcode on the Mainboard not on the Tower. Look at the pictures in your ebay ad.
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Oh Wow, Red... If I were you, I would never, ever sell that machine... I'd sell my internal organs first.... :lol:
Curious to see how high it goes :popcorn:
alexh: you say the CS MK III is an expensive bit of kit.. just curious, how much might it be worth on its' own? (Have a CS Mk-III w/ 128 MB, but I 'only' have an AT 4000T ....)
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Checking now..
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redrumloa wrote:
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Checking now..
Well it looks like DJ was right about the motherboard.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/of4l0z.jpg)
Makes the history of this box even more strange, since the case is certainly from C=.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/5k0ifr.jpg)
Now checking the books and floppies, they are copyright Escom. Will update the listing. :crazy:
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Auction updated! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400004382938)
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I think that maybe the original board died and was replaced by a new board or the owner bought this tower without board.
This is the right picture with the barcode from the mainboard.
(http://i3.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/16/f6/aa96_12.JPG)
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A local AO historian seems to think it was part of the original 200 that was taken over by Escom and rebranded using the original case.
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Very unlikely, you could check the date of build of the mainboard but you would have to remove the board from the case (the date code is on the back side) to be 100% sure.
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It appears to have a Commodore SCSI card:
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2j1a141.jpg)
and a Commodore Sound card:
(http://i37.tinypic.com/e8lflw.jpg)
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Looks like serial number 20.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/m6hdg.jpg)
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You know, Red..... One day, this portable hole you have, to this alternate dimension of scarce and rare surplus of Amiga items, is going to run out.....
And when it does, I'm going to laugh at you....
:lol:
Right now, I can just scowl at you! :evil:
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IIRC my AT 4000T also has both A/V, disk and ports module that bear the Commodore label, thus I think that those modules in "Commodore format" are not that uncommon... the case definitely is though ;)
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It sure is a nice machine, but it is insane what sum a humble faceplate will add to the price (as it is the only real difference to the Escom A4000T).
I would swap my Escom A4000T for it any time but not at the price this is gonne fetch.
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I would NOT swap it, because the front bezel is not original. It has been repaired with metal hinges.
If the bezel was mint (means unyellowed also) then I might consider it, but as it stands I value my A4000T more than the specimen above (not to take anything away from Red's auction, because that would be a fine Amiga for somebody to get, if they hadn't had an A4KT before).
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OMG RARE LOL!
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Not bad Red. Its up to a grand. Looks like you're going to get a tidy profit from your trip.
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I am sure it will fetch a nice penny one way or another but this auction should have been stopped and relisted as soon as it was found not to be an orginal C. The auction is very misleading.
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don27dog wrote:
I am sure it will fetch a nice penny one way or another but this auction should have been stopped and relisted as soon as it was found not to be an orginal C. The auction is very misleading.
I've considered it and am still considering it. Up to this point I have kept it listed because I have added all the updated information, so there is nothing misleading. Check the listing, it is all there. Also the high bidders for the last couple days are all post-update.
I have had an off-eBay offer of $3,800 so pulling the auction would potentially be more profitable than leaving it.
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I think it went like this:
Commodore designs and starts to produce A4kTs
Money dries up, bankruptcy occurs
Escom buys up Commodore left-overs, including cases and assembled A/V and disk modules
Escom starts producing A4kTs themselves, starting out by using C= left-overs
In conclusion; Escom starts a new production line of motherboards, but use old C= components as long as supply allows.
Case closed. :-)
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Looks like a nice machine..
Seems to be the same as the Quick-Pak, case, Motherboard etc...with
just a "Commodore" front door/panel ..hehe..
If it was ALL orig. Commodore then I would bid :-) and bid to win hehe
Off-Ebay offer of $3,800..your silly not to take the money and run. No
way the auction will go that high..and if it does the bidders are HIGH ;-).
Rich
ny
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Vlabguy1 wrote:
Seems to be the same as the Quick-Pak, case, Motherboard etc...with
just a "Commodore" front door/panel ..hehe..
Nope, look at the sticker on the back of the case. At least the whole case is Commodore.
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Yes I realize this..but it looks to be the same Enclosure..that was my point..
redrumloa wrote:
Vlabguy1 wrote:
Seems to be the same as the Quick-Pak, case, Motherboard etc...with
just a "Commodore" front door/panel ..hehe..
Nope, look at the sticker on the back of the case. At least the whole case is Commodore.
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Vlabguy1 wrote:
Yes I realize this..but it looks to be the same Enclosure..that was my point..
The only different between Commodore and Escom case is the front bezel. Everything else is the same. But also Commodore used the Escom bezel in some adverts.
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I've received clarification from the previous owner, so it is official. This 4000T was purchased by the previous owner with a bad motherboard, so he swapped the bad mb with an AT motherboard.
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One day left. How insane is the bidding going to get? :lol: :popcorn:
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About 3 hours left and still cheap (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400004382938) :-D
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$2859 AUD!!!!!! 14 year old computer????
That is a Mac Pro!
I am all for the value in vintage stuff and appreciate Amiga has kept it's value over the last 10 years but seriously?? This thing could break down tomorrow.