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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: omnicron10 on October 23, 2008, 05:30:10 AM
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Ok.. I am missing something.
I have tried to install OS4.1 on the Sam 440 and can not get it too boot. I have tried it like 4 times and set the right FS.. block size.. slb and copied all the files (installer) and it always says it can not find a file system (157?) for boot. I have looked in the uboot and told it to use a SATA drive to boot as well as the CD ROM and it does not seem to help...
What am I missing?
Thanks
Tim
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Good luck Tim, I had to try a few times before I got MorphOS2.1 installed on the EFIKA.
I hope someone can help you quickly.
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The SAM version didn't come with a manual?
Been a while since I've had to play with UBoot on my A1, but I imagine the SAM is similar. Can you post the contents of the NVRAM? (There's a command in C: to dump it to a shell.)
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It did come with a install guide that I have read very closely but it does not cover UBOOT. I have done the install several time. I know AOS 3 very well so I have that advantage since there are very similar ideas but it still does not boot.
I have looked at UBOOT and have selected the SATA drive as a boot device but it did not see the SLB an displayed an error.
I will try it one more time and look at UBOOT closer and post it here.
Thanks
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Thanks Dave... I sure we can get it figured out. I wish I had the case and HD at the show.. they would have gotten it figured out.
amigadave wrote:
Good luck Tim, I had to try a few times before I got MorphOS2.1 installed on the EFIKA.
I hope someone can help you quickly.
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Have you installed Workbench on a FFS or SFS partition? The latest version of UBoot does not recognise JXFS partitions.
Varthall
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I tried both SFS and FFS with 512 block size. Like I said I read the install doc very closely.
It gives me an error in Uboot that is can't find AOS4 SLB. I have installed it from l: from the CD.
AOS4 FLB
No know boot method for device 156
FLB: no SLB found on any of the designated boot sources; returning to u-boot.
I have tried to set u-boot to use the SATA onboard hard drive but it never finds anything to boot and I get the same error. I can only get it boot the CD-ROM.
I have made sure the boot partition is FFS and or SFS with 512 block partition with automount and bootable selected. I tried making 1 gig, 2, 4 in size and it still did not work.
I can boot the CD and see the drive (dh0) and it works. I can load a even load files from the drive so I know the data is good.
I am wondering if the Beta 4.1 CD they gave me is wrong in some way.
Tim
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Looks like an SLB problem - did you install the SLB with Media Toolbox? I don't know how Media Toolbox looks under 4.1 now, because it's already different between 4.0 for AmigaOnes and 4.0 for PowerUp, but under expert mode there should be an option to install drive init code in the Install/Edit RDB window.
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Yes I did.. I selected the drive and then chose install and selected the SLB listed in l: It shows that it is installed. I have rebooted and checked it again and it still says it is installed.
Thanks
Tim
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This is a SAM440ep, right?
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jorkany wrote:
This is a SAM440ep, right?
Yes, he bought it at the AmiWest show from AmigaKit.
Tim, have you contacted AmigaKit to see if there is somewhere you can download the AmigaOS4.1 iso and burn it to a CD to replace the one you have, or if they can send you another to replace yours?
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@omnicron10
The error message says that it did not find an SLB. Assuming that you did install the SLB properly, that you did save the partition table before resetting (seeing as you can read the drive), the other possibility is that your UBoot env variables have been messed up. In the UBoot prompt, type printenv and tell us what it says. Also, does UBoot list your hard-drive on startup?
Another possibility, although unlikely, is that you didn't install the correct file as SLB. It's been years since I touched this, but it should ask you to select a file as SLB. Make sure that you choose the right one.
This is one of those situations where I would say "give me the keyboard and I'll take a look," unfortunately you're way too far away for that.
Hans
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Are you sure that the partition you installed AOS4.1 on is bootable?
If yes then try this:
-Boot with your installation cd.
-Once Worjbench is loaded launch Media ToolBox
- Edit the RDB of you Hard Drive
- REMOVE the SLB and save
- Launch again Media ToolBox
- Edit again your HD RDB
- Install the new SLB from the CD. The installed SLB should report as l:slb_v2 lenght 28988 ver 1.18
- Save, remove the CD and reboot (hard reset)
- If all went well you should now be able to boot from HD.
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@omnicron10
Try this at the uboot shell prompt,
Type menu
You should be able to select the boot drive. Select your HD, exit back to uboot, then type
ide reset
boota
Hopefully you'll boot right up.
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@omnicron10
Here is a dump of the relevant uboot vars in my SAM440ep:
ide_cd_timeout=20
ide_doreset=on
ide_reset_timeout=10
bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd
bootdelay=3
boot1=s4siicdrom
boot2=s4sii
boot3=
boot_config=Default
boota_timeout=3
boot_method=boota
menuboot_cmd=boota
menucmd=menu
menuboot_delay=3
You may want to double check what you have if Lecta's advice doesn't work for you.
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@jorkany
This is a SAM440ep, right?
Are you really trying to help or is it just feinted interest (http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/159559.shtml) so you can point and laugh (http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/159149.shtml) safely from afar again?
Meanwhile, there's this:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38706
To me this is eerily reminiscent of the installation issues that users have had with OS4 on the A1 series, except now there is no variance in hardware (theoretically) to explain things away.
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Found it... so far on SAM you MUST have the boot drive on J20 or J21. It wont work on J22 or J23... nice.. Lets put it in the FAQ..
Must be a Uboot issue..
now to play with AOS4.1!!
Thanks for all the help.
Tim
---update
Actually appears to only boot on J20...
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@omnicron10
Glad you got it sorted, uboot can be tricky. Go find Ranger on OS4Depot, it has a bios tab that will list all your uboot variables set. Will come in handy if you have any more problems & you need to know the settings.
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Interesting thing is no matter what I select in Uboot to boot from (IDE/SATA/CDROM) it will always boot from the first Sata connector regardless of the media (HD or CDROM).
At least I got it booting. I am going to reinstall to make sure it all works again.
If I plug in the mouse the kb stops working and visa versa. I have not been able to get the USB on the motherboard headers working yet. The USB on the ATX backplane works.
I browse is SO much faster on this than the A4000/060
Gotta love it!
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@omnicron10
Check your Sam440ep manual:
"SATA ports: J20 (Hard Disk), J23 (DVD/CD), J21, J22"
It is in there but maybe not as obvious as it could be.
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So J21 and J22 can not be used at all? Only J20 is HD? I got a CDROM working on J20 but not on J23 for booting OS4.
I am not expecting perfection at this point but it was nice that it now works. Kinda of a wierd issue but can imagine in the future it shall work better.
Now I need to figure out that new FS. I made a partition with JXF so I have to figure out how to get it to work now.
Thanks
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Just remember, you can't boot from a JXFS partition yet, so use SFS or FFS for that.
I'll keep ssolie up to date on this thread if you need more help as he has a SAM.
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I'm pleased you got your Sam/OS4.1 up and running.:-D
TrevorD
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@omnicron10
I'm guessing you can use whatever you want in whatever SATA port you want.
But if you want to be able to boot from HD, make sure its the one plugged into J20.
If you want to boot from a CD drive, make sure its the one plugged into J21.
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omnicron10 wrote:
Interesting thing is no matter what I select in Uboot to boot from (IDE/SATA/CDROM) it will always boot from the first Sata connector regardless of the media (HD or CDROM).
Not completely true. At boot you can press enter (when you see the text progress bar) and select a different device. Turning from SATA CDROM to SATA HDD should work even if the drive is placed in the second SATA connector.
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by ssolie on 2008/10/23 18:13:34
@jorkany
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This is a SAM440ep, right?
Are you really trying to help or is it just feinted interest so you can point and laugh safely from afar again?
Why would you care? I don't see you caring what Amiga Inc thinks about this obvious violation of their IP afterall.
Dammy
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It's only obvious after Hyperion loses the lawsuit and that has not happened yet (and hopefully won't happen).
It is "unusual" that they are taking this chance by violating the original contract before the IP rights have been determined by the court, and may be stopped by the judge, until the case is over, if A.inc files an injunction, but we have not heard of anything like that yet, so I wonder if A.inc has run out of money for lawyers, or if an agreement between A.inc and Hyperion is close to happening?
What is obvious up until this point in time is that the lawyers have probably made more money than either A.inc and/or Hyperion lately.