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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: redrumloa on October 11, 2008, 01:55:38 AM
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If the A3000T and A4000T were put in a fight to the death cage match who would win :-?
Very, very important question :-D
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A4000T
:-D
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:-? They'd both just sit wherever they'd been put.
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Does the A4000T have a scan-doubler?!
- Ali
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A3000T. Have you seen the amount of steel armour on that case?
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A4000T of course. :-D
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I think the 4000T would just sit on the 3000T and crush it.... Game over...
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(Man, 4000T's are Heavy...)
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Depends, have either of them been sitting in a garage for 10 years with an old leaky battery on the board?
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Hello All,
I have both A3000T and A4000T with Cyberstorm PPC cards and Cybervision. I just prfer the A3000T just for it's build quality. But this is my opinion only. :-D
Thanks in advance,
Merv Stent
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Yeah I've owned both as well, and unless you count the ability to run AGA games/demos, I vastly prefered the A3000T.
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A3000T for sure! She's like a sumo wrestler, if you think a 4000T is heavy you haven't felt a 3000T!
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Mehdi Ali wud kick both their asses.
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I personally prefer the A3000D because it's not a bloated monster in size but packs a punch and is quick on it's feet, except for AGA, it's got everything and more (Zorro3, A4000 Fast slot, DMA SCSI and FF/SD).
It's kind of the Fedor Emelianenko of Amigas.
Both the big Towers strike me more as Kimbo Slices.
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My A4000 in RBM tower of course :-D
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i'd take a 3k over a 4k anyday :)
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A3000T - the last C= computer built without compromises!
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Depends, does the 4000T have a quickpak o6o? If so the 4000T hands down.
If the 4000T is an o4o and the 3000T is an o4o I say the 3000T.
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A3000T all the way man. It would crush the A4000T easily. :-D
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@tone007
A4000T doesn't use a rechargeable battery, it uses button non-rechargeables so no corrossion is possible.
-A4000T SCSI controller is much better than A3000T too.
-A3000 doesn't have IDE controller.
-A4000T uses simms instead of expensive and hard to find ZIP ram.
-A4000T has AGA (useful for Scala, video stuff, games and demos... and you can't add AGA to an A3000T no matter how much money you invest)
-A4000T could include Quickpack 060 fast accelerators OOTB
The only advantage of A3000T is that it includes FlickerFixer. And that's all. Not a big problem as you can connect internal cheap scandoublers/flickerfixers.
If you can live without video stuff, games and demos you'd better switch to a next gen solution like Pegasos/Efika or Sam440/A1.
For me AGA is important. I own heavily upgraded A3000, A4000, A4000T... and I prefer having AGA. You can't watch most of demos released after 1994 on an A3000.
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Hmm. Ive seen alot of problems out of the SIMM sockets used on the A4000 motherboards, though I never personally experienced any problems with the A4000T. I've never seen any problem with the A3000T ZIPP sockets either, and mine came from the factory fully populated with 18megs, an A3640, the Ramsey 7/DMAC 4, and a blank footprint where the 68030/68882 would have been soldered on the motherboard.
The A4000T which I had for several years, I did not buy new, and the previous owner had already installed an 060/50mhz accelerator with 64megs of VERY-FAST ram. I believe the SCSI controller was also on the accelerator, but I could not swear to it at this point, as its been quite a few years... I do remember that the system did have extremely good performance running Workbench 3.1 applications, especially when using graphics-card (CV-64) screen modes.. It really did "smoke the living dogsh!t" out of Wintels of many times it's processor clockspeed.
I never did alter the configuration of the A3000T. It was kind of a rare machine. It actually came from commodore with "A3000T-040" printed on the front panel. I sold this machine fairly recently (a couple of years ago). It's performance was roughly "on-the par" with some of the later 040/060 accelerated Macintosh machines.
Also, the A3000 scandoubler/de-interlacer is among the best overall quality Ive seen from such a device.
Anyone using either of the machines for any sort of serious application is most certainly going to have an accelerator, with memory of a much better performance spec than what's available on the motherboard or the Z-III bus. For the majority of High-end accelerators, the same can be said about the SCSI controller.
As others have mentioned, the A3000T is truly "built like a tank," and I am partial to case designs that reflect the original Commodore Styling. Not to say the A4000T was not a really kewl case design in comparisson to other full tower PC/server cases of the same era.
I am also very partial to machines that have socketed chips. I have had to replace 8520s, Paulas, Serial line driver/reciever chips etc. on various AMIGA models through the years due to lightning strikes, power surges, careless plugging/unplugging of cables, etc.. So, SMT soldered chips is not really one of the better features of the A1200/A4000 series of AMIGAs..
Welp, I can't think of anything else to directly compare.. Truth is, I loved both machines, and only "let go of them" because I knew they'd get more use by the people I sold them to then I was giving them. (and I drastically needed the space they were occupying for other things)
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Metalguy66 wrote:(and I drastically needed the space they were occupying for other things)
Why does everybody always need so much room? When I lived as a student in a chamber of 4x5meters I still had room for a miggy AND a PC.
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Metalguy66 wrote:
Truth is, I loved both machines, and only "let go of them" because I knew they'd get more use by the people I sold them to then I was giving them. (and I drastically needed the space they were occupying for other things)
*snort*
Marriage will do that to you. ;) I have rather fond memories of the "Amiga Room". :-D
[edit] - Ken, I always wanted that A3000T. :getmad:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Why does everybody always need so much room? When I lived as a student in a chamber of 4x5meters I still had room for a miggy AND a PC.
Eyso,
You never actually saw the "Amiga Room". I don't think there was anything in there, *EXCEPT* for Amigas. Ken ended up snagging a few of mine. ;-)
Of course, I lost my A3000 right after that, so..... :-(
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The A4000TB (Tower Block) would flatten both of them in a fight ;-)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/A4000TowerBlock.jpg)
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Hello All,
Wow what a sight, seeing 6 4000's on top of each other!
Thanks in advance,
Merv Stent
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4000 hands down!!! AGA, need i say more.
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Assuming they are both stock out of the box, I'd go with the A4000T with it's 2 internal 24 BIT extended video expansion slots. This is the ultimate Video Toaster Flyer machine.
Methuselas wrote:
Marriage will do that to you. ;) I have rather fond memories of the "Amiga Room". :-D
With or without the wife? heh I still have an "Amiga Room". On my 3rd wife... :-o
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T3000 wrote:
Assuming they are both stock out of the box, I'd go with the A4000T with it's 2 internal 24 BIT extended video expansion slots. This is the ultimate Video Toaster Flyer machine.
...assuming you want a VT machine.
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Why the hell would anyone have 6 A4000s sitting like that?
For what possible reason??
They`re an endangered species.
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A4000_Mad wrote:
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/A4000TowerBlock.jpg)
pr0n!! :-o
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Red wrote:- pr0n!! :-o
agreed! :-D
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I change my vote to the A4000TB! That would win in all cat fights!!! :-D