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Title: FOUND: CSMKIII
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 04, 2008, 03:26:14 PM
Long shot over everyone's Bow;

Anyone got a CSMKIII they want to Sell, Swap or Part-exchange for hardware?

Must be in full working order & fitted with 060 & 128Mb ram.
Might consider an 040 version of this card if the price is right.

I'm willing to pay a fair price for this card.

Please post here stating a PM is sent & offer your price including shipping to Sunny Cornwall, here in the UK.
Shipping must be fully insured with a Signature Required for delivery.

Cheers & all the best folks!  :-)
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: bigmac on October 07, 2008, 10:48:46 AM
Quote

Kin-Hell wrote:
Long shot over everyone's Bow;

Anyone got a CSMKIII they want to Sell, Swap or Part-exchange for hardware?

Must be in full working order & fitted with 060 & 128Mb ram.
Might consider an 040 version of this card if the price is right.

I'm willing to pay a fair price for this card.

Please post here stating a PM is sent & offer your price including shipping to Sunny Cornwall, here in the UK.
Shipping must be fully insured with a Signature Required for delivery.

Cheers & all the best folks!  :-)


Geez mate this went down quicker than the Titanic, a friendly nudge up  again. Oh! and by the way everyone, I,m after a Warpengine to replace my recently deceased one. So if you have one you wish to sell please pm me.Go on I know your hiding them, all I need is one. :-D
cheers
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: alexh on October 07, 2008, 12:50:17 PM
If anyone has a CSMKIII they are either using it. Or more likely it's broken and they are musing over paying JJB €150 to fix it.
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 07, 2008, 09:45:55 PM
@ bigmac

S'funny old f'kin world aint it!

I cant say too much now, but trust me. As things evolve & finally conclude, I'll spill the beans!  :-D

Meantime, I'm doing JD & Coke by the gallon, hoping it all turns up rosey!

Bookmark this. It's quite a story in some ways, but all for the love of "Amiga".  :-)
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: bigmac on October 08, 2008, 03:21:30 AM

@Kin-Hell

Geez matey,you sound a bit depressed or pissed, one of the two eh! cheer up I,m sure we,ll both get sorted with our cards if you get a CS3 I bags first dibs on your old card if its 4 sale in the meantime hang in there good things come to those who wait :-D
cheers
ps check your pm
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 08, 2008, 11:14:45 AM
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alexh wrote:
If anyone has a CSMKIII they are either using it. Or more likely it's broken and they are musing over paying JJB €150 to fix it.


Anthony Hoffman charges a lot lot less for repairs.

@ bigmac

I had a WE until about 2 weeks ago! :cry:
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 18, 2008, 01:36:17 PM
 :lotsacoffee:  :love:   :-D
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: alexh on October 18, 2008, 02:09:15 PM
What did it cost?
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: cv643d on October 18, 2008, 02:16:32 PM
My A4000 motherboard would have cost 150 euro to fix too (flopppy/serial did not work). A bit pricey yes.
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 18, 2008, 04:09:35 PM
@ Alex

Actual socket repair costs were approx £68.00 inc. Return Shipping + shipping it out there @ aprox £18.00

@ cv643d

Yes m8, he's a pricey bugger!

Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 18, 2008, 04:37:29 PM
The whole story went like this & it is cut well short leaving Japan out of the tale! I also omit names where I think fit.

I ended up swapping an Immaculate WarpEngine & Z3 Fastlane with 4Mb for a CSMKIII 040 @ 40Mhz. It arrived, I plugged it in & it was dead! Caps Lock key froze after several presses meaning the CPU wasn't responding. Powered off, pressed on the CPU fan & held the pressure whilst powering on. It Fired up to the 3.1 ROM screen no problems. Let the pressure off the CPU & the Insert Floppy animation froze & the classic Floppy Drive click ceased too!
Classic example of broken solder joints on this ageing BGA Technology.
Thankfully, I hadn't sent my stuff to the sender of the CSMKIII & contacted him explaining the situation. The result was I keep the Z3, he'd pay half the shipping costs & Socket repair & I'd ship him the WarpEngine to square up.

Tbah, I could have done the Socket re-work myself but just didn't have the tools to hand. I also recently acquired some glasses & am finding it difficult to adapt! (An even Older KuNt0r now) :-o
It was just a safer option all round to let a professional work out over this one!

As a bonus, the card is now a full 060 running @ 68.5Mhz & I managed to pick up another V8.5  Z3 ROM along with a set of New Caps for a Rev 3.2 A3640, now my only spare A4K processor board!

Anyone else in dire need of Socket repair at a reasonable price, Anthony Hoffman is your man. He does also provide other services & is only an Email away.

A.H. R0X0rZ (http://amiga.serveftp.net/)

I'm absolutely tickled!  :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: FOUND: CSMKIII - It's all Rosey Now
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 18, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
The whole story went like this & it is cut well short leaving Japan out of the tale! I also omit names where I think fit.

I ended up swapping an Immaculate WarpEngine & Z3 Fastlane with 4Mb for a CSMKIII 040 @ 40Mhz. It arrived, I plugged it in & it was dead! Caps Lock key froze after several presses meaning the CPU wasn't responding. Powered off, pressed on the CPU fan & held the pressure whilst powering on. It Fired up to the 3.1 ROM screen no problems. Let the pressure off the CPU & the Insert Floppy animation froze & the classic Floppy Drive click ceased too!
Classic example of broken solder joints on this ageing BGA Technology.
Thankfully, I hadn't sent my stuff to the sender of the CSMKIII & contacted him explaining the situation. The result was I keep the Z3, he'd pay half the shipping costs & Socket repair & I'd ship him the WarpEngine to square up.

Tbah, I could have done the Socket re-work myself but just didn't have the tools to hand. I also recently acquired some glasses & am finding it difficult to adapt! (An even Older KuNt0r now) :-o
It was just a safer option all round to let a professional work out over this one!

As a bonus, the card is now a full 060 running @ 68.5Mhz & I managed to pick up another V8.5  Z3 ROM along with a set of New Caps for a Rev 3.2 A3640, now my only spare A4K processor board!

Anyone else in dire need of Socket repair at a reasonable price, Anthony Hoffman is your man. He does also provide other services & is only an Email away.

A.H. R0X0rZ (http://amiga.serveftp.net/)

I'm absolutely tickled!  :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: alexh on October 18, 2008, 04:45:23 PM
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Kin-Hell wrote:
Anyone else in dire need of Socket repair at a reasonable price, Anthony Hoffman is your man.

Interesting stuff. Cheaper... but further away... but native English speaker I might have a chat with him as my CS MKIII is in a box somewhere :-(
Title: Re: FOUND: CSMKIII - It's all Rosey Now
Post by: countzero on October 18, 2008, 04:50:38 PM
Glad to see the board is finally going to see some use. Strange thing about the BGA socket though, it was totally ok when I sent it back.

What about the 68.5Mhz ? Does the SCSI work at that speed ? any flakiness ?
Title: Re: FOUND: CSMKIII - It's all Rosey Now
Post by: Tahoe on October 18, 2008, 05:04:55 PM
The problem with these MK3 and PPC boards is that there are no BGA 68060 sockets, they simply do not exist.
Phase 5 (and DCE) made their own by taking a regular sockets and sawing (and grinding) the pins off. This works, obviously but the connections aren't as strong as real BGA's using balls of lead. Because the 68060 gets quite hot (68040 even more) these pins tend to work loose.
Title: Re: WANTED: CSMKIII
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 18, 2008, 05:16:03 PM
Here Alex:

Linky Poo (http://amiga.serveftp.net/Cyberstorm_socket.html)

A direct link with an Email Contact at the bottom of the page.

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countzero wrote:
What about the 68.5Mhz ? Does the SCSI work at that speed ? any flakiness ?


No. The SCSI & RAM use the Middle Crystal on the Card & that is Stock @ 50Mhz, but runs @ 25Mhz afaik

@ Tahoe

If you click linky Poo above, there is no sawing off here. Just a re-constructed socket from row after row of single strip 2.54mm Socket Pins! :-)

*edit* Dunno how the double post happened?? :-?