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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: JuvUK on September 18, 2008, 09:34:04 AM
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Hi all,
please don't flame me if this is a stupid question.
i have an A1200 with 3.1 roms in it and i own OS3.9, now i've heard of 3.9 roms, what are these, where can i get them from? and as i own the 3.1 roms and the 3.9OS am i legally entitled to use them? (if i can get them that is)
thanks in advance, JuvUK
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3.9 roms are simply 3.1 roms updated with boing bag 2 rom update modules. You can boot into 3.9 straight without reboot caused by romupdate with these.
AFAIK there isn't any legal source to obtain them. You have to burn one yourself or ask someone who can do it.
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thanks countzero,
so next question would be, who can do this?
thanks, JuvUK
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There used to be a guy here who made those, but he got flamed so much that he refused to sell any in the end :madashell: I wanted one so bad ... I think he would take your 3.1 rom and ruin it and give you a 3.9 rom back ?
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why did he get flamed? if you own the roms and the os?
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adonay wrote:
There used to be a guy here who made those, but he got flamed so much that he refused to sell any in the end :madashell:
That was me.
adonay wrote:
I wanted one so bad ... I think he would take your 3.1 rom and ruin it and give you a 3.9 rom back ?
Yep, that was the plan.
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moto
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JuvUK wrote:
why did he get flamed? if you own the roms and the os?
Some people objected to me doing it in the first place as they felt it violated the EULA of OS3.9. Others objected to me requiring them to send me a 3.1 ROM chip to be destroyed to prove they own it and to prevent them from having a (pirate) duplicate. In the end I got so fed up with people whingeing about it that I decided I couldn't be bothered to offer the burning service.
See for yourself:
My Kickstart 3.9 EPROM thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22929)
That thread contains the instructions on how to do it, and on about page 2 or 3 the arguing starts :roll:
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moto
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jeez, why do people always spoils things for others? ah well so the search continues, thanks for the replies and sorry you got grief for trying to help people.
cheers JuvUK
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JuvUK wrote:
jeez, why do people always spoils things for others?
Why not ask them? ;-)
JuvUK wrote:
ah well so the search continues,
Actually, it's really not difficult to do this yourself. The instructions in the thread I linked to above are quite comprehensive, and although there are a number of steps, none of them are very complicated. I still have the Willem programmer I used to burn the chips. If you're interested in buying it from me, feel free to send me a PM. But make sure you're happy with the instructions first ;-)
JuvUK wrote:
thanks for the replies and sorry you got grief for trying to help people.
Cheers!
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moto
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Is it not a nightmare to get those programmers to work?
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adonay wrote:
Is it not a nightmare to get those programmers to work?
They are quite complicated, but the manual is very good. There are lots of jumpers, you have to use the correct chip adapter, and you have to tell the software what time of device, adapter and chip you are using. But this is all covered in the manuals.
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moto
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there is also the OS issue I believe ... moto did you manage to get willem working with anything above XP sp2 ? Something with the XP messes parallel port continously so I couldn't get it working. There is an alternate XP sp1 install on my computer just for willem use.
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there is a small registry hack to stop XP trying to detect plug&pray parallel printer, I can send it to you.
I have also used Willem and it mostly works fine.
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what kind of money does this willem thing go for usually?
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57 USD from sivava (http://sivava.com/buynow.php?pd=A044) 16 bit eprom adapter included (shipping not included, from Thailand AFAIK.)
I think willem is a good investment if you have some retro stuff lying around. You can also burn roms for your amiga HDD peripherals like a590, a2091, GVP SCSI boards etc, also c64 roms like jiffydos, drive roms and some cartridge roms (games smaller than 8k) are possible.
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orange wrote:
there is a small registry hack to stop XP trying to detect plug&pray parallel printer, I can send it to you.
I have also used Willem and it mostly works fine.
My burner quit working ...
I switched to Win 2000 awhile back from Win 98.
Will the burner 'NOT' work with Win 2000 ??
Mel
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NOW THAT'S JUST STUPID!
Someone offers an awesome service to people who can prove that they are the legal purchasers of the original product, then a bunch of jackasses who neither own the rights nor can prove any level of privacy make it impossible for a bunch of other people to enhance their systems.
This is the kind of stupid that just crawls under my skin. In order to be "right", they ruin something that has nothing to do with them. There will never be another 3.1 rom burned by Amiga EVER. They will never make a follow-on. They currently make no money on them and have no prospect of making money on them, so what is the issue? Copyright? Cut it out. When Amiga says stop it, then stop it, but until then, making an enhanced version by combining the stuff you already bought?
That's like saying you can't modify your current Amiga because they say you can't. Hell most Amigas are modified full tilt.
This sucks and to all those who were involved in the flaming, you SUCK TOO!
-Alex
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/me will be delving into the world of EPROM burning soon ... Personal 3.9 ROM's is the ultimate aim