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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Coder on August 26, 2003, 10:38:23 AM
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Hi,
Does anyone knows how far that port is? Ready to be tested by people like me?
Coder
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What I want to know is what advantage does AROS have over MorphOS appart from the fact that it's open source?
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by iamaboringperson on 2003/8/26 11:44:16
What I want to know is what advantage does AROS have over MorphOS appart from the fact that it's open source?
IMHO . . . no advantage over MOS 1.4 with Trance.
Years and years, to have AmigaOS 3.1-like on x86 systems and now ppl wants Aros on a PPC based machine?
Please, explain me why!
Thanx
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Do not underestimate the fun factor. Even I'd give it a go :-)
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@Warface
oh yes sure! . . . for fun i agree 100% with you!
But "iamaboringperson" was speaking about advantages over MOS.
I do everyday a lot of thinks for fun :-)
Ciao
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Didn't someone mention once that AROS would be binary compatible with MOS on the Pegasos? Would that mean one could integrate Trance within AROS and on this way, even get TCP/IP for AROS using an old 68k network stack *G* sounds fun, anybody to tell me if it'll be possible (or at least, if they'll really be binary compatible) :-P
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stupid Aweb, posted twice
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If "one" has the sources to Trance, it should be possible, but I don't think "one" can just
get those out of laire for free .....
I may turn out possible to run AmiTCP-PPC when it is finally released.
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No its far from ready to be tested by people like you ;) we have 1 person working in his sparetime porting this allthough he is a great coder he is not god this will take time to materialise into a full working port! if you want to know exactly how far the port has come i suggest you email Michael Schulz or drop by the #aros irc channel and hunt for mschulz (last i checked Exec was almost done).
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by Coder on 2003/8/26 5:38:23
Does anyone knows how far that port is? Ready to be tested by people like me?
AFAIK, not yet. I haven't chatted with Michal S in several days now so I don't know what has been ported yet. The last thing I was told that he was going to have exec booting that day/night. I have no idea on what speed the full port is going to happen once the learning curve has been met. If I was a betting man, Oct would be my guess. YMMV.
Dammy
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Years and years, to have AmigaOS 3.1-like on x86 systems and now ppl wants Aros on a PPC based machine?
This would not be entirely correct. The goal of the AROS project is not to produce an "AmigaOS-on-x86", the goal is to produce an opensource AmigaOS workalike. The reason why the only port that is functional right now is that x86 is what most people have available.
When I find the spare time one of my goals is to port AROS onto my A3k, just for the fun of it.
If someone feels up to it, AROS can be made to run on Alpha, Sparc, PA-RISC, MIPS, or any other architecture you have available. All it takes is a coder with a machine and some (plenty :) ) of spare time.
//Johan
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the disadvantage of Aros PPC would be the impossibility of executing 68k-Programs, since there is no 68k-Emu inside...
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Any new OS would be welcome for the Pegasos. AROS could have advantages MOS doesn't - for example, possible UAE integration and paula emulation, things that are impossible on the quark microkernel MOS uses. That said, AROS would have to be really, really, really good before it ever could qualify as a substitute for MOS. MOS ain't no WB3.1.
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He he, this is probably not the list that the previous poster wanted, but these are the advantages I see.
The CD ISO images boots on any intel box I ever tried it on, and that's a big advantage to me here. I don't know anyone in the US who doesn't have either an Intel box or is on a MAC. Whether that intel box is running on linux, M$, or something else the CD still boots, making it an Amiga-like OS machine. Just think of all the people who might like it see it an run it.
That's an advantage over a PPC based machine because I don't have to go out and buy new hardware. Aros runs on a bazillion computers already in place world wide.
Very few people would go out and buy a new box here just to run another OS. PPC motherboards aren't mainstream, but intel boards are. That makes the target market for an Amiga type OS very very HIGH, cause just about anyone could run it, and the ISO performs extremely well everywhere so far (even on low CPU power boxes).
So what advantage indeed does Aros have? Well you don't have to wait on someone to buy a new box to be able to use it. It's sheer numbers on it's side..
It could be a revolution..
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Hi Don, it could certainly be part of the Revolution!
We would like that...;-)
How is the port coming?!
Raquel and Bill :-)
Genesi
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I never understood the reason why AOS won't be ported officially on x86.
Given it's small footprint, it shurely would fly on the current CPU's.
Oh well, Aros is there for grabs :-D (and somehow I believe more in the future of Aros then AOS4.0- nofi)
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Krusher wrote:
I never understood the reason why AOS won't be ported officially on x86.
Given it's small footprint, it shurely would fly on the current CPU's.
Oh well, Aros is there for grabs :-D (and somehow I believe more in the future of Aros then AOS4.0- nofi)
Indeed AROS does fly on a 3Ghz CPU... Damn I hate intel, but the 3Ghz P4 is a really nice machine... :-D (I'd take the Athlon64 anyday though)
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I never understood the reason why AOS won't be ported officially on x86.
There wouldn't have been any money in it.
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Okay so for purly a 'for the fun of it' POV AROS would be cool on Pegasos, I would love to play with it, after all I do know PPC assembler much better than x86 assem.
But what do the ordinary 'user class' of users get out of it? Especially if there are a reduced number of apps?