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Title: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: amigamad on August 25, 2003, 07:11:58 PM
Ive been looking on ebay at scsi hard drives and have got a 9.1 ibm drive for £15.00, but small scsi drives of 500mb are being bidded on for much more just because they have amiga in the title .

This also happens for 2.5 inch hd and other stuff as long as amiga is in the title ,it just makes me wonder why people have to bid on such crap when bigger and better items sometimes make 3 times less.No wonder amiga companys can get away with it . :-?  :-)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: jeffimix on August 25, 2003, 07:19:07 PM
Yes, amiga e-bay people are stupid. Still I got a G-Force '040 @33MHz for about 130 bucks on there... just can't find them cheaper round here,
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: redrumloa on August 25, 2003, 07:24:08 PM
Stupid? No. it's supply and demand. As for SCSI devices and such, if it's been Amiga formatted and tested working on an Amiga compatability is not a problem. Not every Amiga user out there are power users. Be nice already :-o

-Edit-
Some people would say that about my auctions. Some would say "Who would be so stupid to buy such an old computer". Value is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: browny on August 25, 2003, 07:28:03 PM
Hi Amigamad,
I think you are being a bit harsh on some of our fellow amigans, just because they pay silly prices for small HDs, I mean not every one can use HDtools.
So they buy a set-up ready to go.
I know the rest of us enjoy the Thrill of the Format and the `Buzz` of the partition.
But the `muggles` dont get it !  :-D
@ red, you never got back to me about those Zip chips :-D
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: redrumloa on August 25, 2003, 07:34:04 PM
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@ red, you never got back to me about those Zip chips


DOH! When I first checked I couldn't find them. I'll check one more place and get back to you today. I may have given them away. I'll let you know...
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: lempkee on August 25, 2003, 07:36:09 PM
OI! , someone called me a stupid amiga ebuyer :PPPPPP ?..

heh well about the hd thingy , alot of people like to have their hd inside the desktop , maybe thats why they paid so much ? ...hopeing it would fit and be slimm enough..

anyway i agree that some hhillarious bids have been done , but then again.... this happens all over ebay...if its pc or not..

cheers :)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: browny on August 25, 2003, 07:39:58 PM
Cheers Red,
I am only pulling your `Third leg `! :-D
But if you come up trumps, then I wil hold you in higher esteem than I already do. :-D

Ebay rocks !
even though the listing prices and selling charges suck . :-x
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: redrumloa on August 25, 2003, 07:41:32 PM
@browny

Pulling my what? :oops:
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: browny on August 25, 2003, 07:43:52 PM
Its a Brummie term for your **** :-D
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: Steady on August 25, 2003, 08:06:56 PM
@browny.

Obviously you're really keen on getting those chips, but I'm sure Red could supply them for less ;-)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: amigamad on August 25, 2003, 08:17:14 PM
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Not every Amiga user out there are power users


True but some sellers use the term amiga just to sell something they might end up being stuck with i didnt just mean hard drives .

Most things i have bought lately are from amibench so far a pcmcia network for 1 of my a1200,s a dead blizzard ppc which seems to work in the amiga i wanted to sell but not in my £5 a1200 and i am  now buying  a mediator pc board for a1200 .

I have thought of buying stuff cheap on amibench and putting it on ebay it would be easy money . :-)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: redrumloa on August 25, 2003, 08:21:12 PM
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I have thought of buying stuff cheap on amibench and putting it on ebay it would be easy money


If you think there is a market for it, go for it! Just research before you jump into it. eBay buyers are fickle, even Amiga buyers.
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: dammy on August 25, 2003, 08:26:36 PM
Speaking of Amiga items on EBay, TeamAROS (http://www.thenostromo.com/teamaros/) has started the US Amiga Rummage Sale to raise monies for Bounty projects.  For those of you living in the US (or Canada, shouldn't be too expensive shipping it down to FL) and have some old working Amiga equiptment your no longer, please consider donating it.  redrumloa@amiga.org is kind enough to assist by being the seller.  We're splitting the profit of any Amiga hardware sold (he's doing the hard part afterall) via his EBay auctions.

I've got several multiserial cards (A2232) that I'm going to be shipping to Redrumloa tomorrow.  If you do have some working hardware that you would like to donate, drop Redrumloa an email for a shipping address.

dammy
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: redrumloa on August 25, 2003, 08:30:13 PM
@Dammy

Why don't you make a news article?
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 25, 2003, 08:32:59 PM
Nothing wrong will selling second hand Amiga hardware for stupid prices if there is people willing to pay the money.

I used to sell a lot of stuff on Amibench because i know the magical name "Amiga" will get people paying crazy prices for hardware and i loved it.

I payed £20 for a 64 ss edo simm  then sold it on amibench for £70 and some mug bought it, i miss those days  :-D
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: amigamad on August 25, 2003, 08:47:09 PM
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If you think there is a market for it, go for it! Just research before you jump into it. eBay buyers are fickle, even Amiga buyers.


I have done some research on uk ebay 040 cards for an a1200 fetch around £70 plus postage and 060,s fetch around £170 every 060 i have seen has sold for that much, also ppc cards fetch £170 i could have had one from amibench for a £110. A500 hard drives fetch about 40 pound and a phillips cm8833 mk2 monitor sold for 50 odd pound including postage i have one of these that i paid $8 pound for because it was cheaper than a scandoubler  takes more space though .

I am only thinking of the things which alwayas seem to make money cdtv,s seem vary a lot one week 3 made good money at the moment they are making next to nothing.

At the moment i have to sell some of my amiga collection due to to many machines my second pc the msi motherboard died so that will give me room for two ppc amigas towers when i get the second built one pc is enough. :-)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: amigamad on August 25, 2003, 08:53:02 PM
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I payed £20 for a 64 ss edo simm then sold it on amibench for £70 and some mug bought it, i miss those days  


I would like to find these  people i would make a fortune. :-D
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: dammy on August 25, 2003, 08:54:42 PM
by redrumloa on 2003/8/25 15:30:13

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Why don't you make a news article?


Yeah, guess I should do that.

Dammy
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: Damion on August 25, 2003, 10:37:16 PM
>amiga ebay users are they stupid ?

Depends...I remember seeing 3 Blizzard 1260's
sell on e-bay for more than what I paid for mine
brand new, including shipping and a 64mb SIMM.

Then again, you can find 'deals'. I found a
NOS C= amiga external floppy for 10 bucks.

Lately the 'deals' do seem harder to come by, or
the market is just cyclic. People are paying
lots of money for 'amiga' or 'commodore'
hardware.

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Some people would say that about my auctions. Some would say "Who would be so stupid to buy such an old computer". Value is in the eye of the beholder.


Actually a Ben is not really a bad price for a
brand new vintage computer...personally I
think it could be a wise investment. In 20
years they may be worth thousands each.





Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: redrumloa on August 26, 2003, 01:36:36 AM
@browny

I found some ZIP chips for you.

You needed how many? I have 8.
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: iamaboringperson on August 26, 2003, 01:51:47 AM
Ah, the irrational buyer! :-D

The fact is buyers aren't stupid, some just have a different oppintion as to what's of value and of how much value it is.

To say that you know the price better than they do, is arrogance IMO, since we all have different wants and desires.

Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: Wolfe on August 26, 2003, 05:16:34 AM
As an eBay'r I bid by my need, want and or willingness to pay.  But I do keep up with availability and pricing for the same thing new.   :-P

@red

What's coming up for the next round of sale's?   :-D
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: tintin on August 26, 2003, 07:47:01 AM
So you experienced guys guess it would be worth selling an original Commodore Amiga 4000/040 on ebay ?  Would it be better to sell the system as a whole or sell the  videocard and ethernetcard etc... seperately ?  I know it sounds like blasphemy wanting to sell at all but to be honest, I'm not a gamer so I have little use left for the old girl.  Anyway, I think any future for the Amiga is in the new systems.
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: aardvark on August 26, 2003, 09:12:17 AM
Generally selling amiga items, you are probably better to go a la carte, that is sell items individually.  Of course that may mean you'll get stuck with that 2400 baud Supra Amiga modem.  But someone who just wants a video card  or a plain vanilla A4000 is more likely to bid on individual items than if the whole thing is rather pricey.  For example, I just won a bid on a Cyberstorm ppc 200 with a 9 gig Scsi drive.  I really just wanted the Cyberstorm, the drive is a nice bonus ( although it probably drove the shipping cost up with the weight) but he could have sold the drive separately and I still would have paid the same price for the PPC card.  One other thing is don't restrict your sales by limiting to where you'll ship.  The old law of supply and demand says that if you increase your demand by selling to more countries, you'll drive your auction price up by increasing the number of bidders.  I find that most people (about95%) will ship to other countries even if their auction is coded "will ship to Germany, US or Lichtenstein only".  It's the ones that say that in the body of their auction that tick me off, especially if it's something I wish to bid on.  I'm tempted to send them a nasty letter saying "Screw you buddy, it's only your own throat your cutting."  But I don't, after all I'm one of those polite Canadians  that say sorry when someone else bumps into me :-)
Oh, by the way don't ship UPS if the package is going to cross  the border.  They are bandits and will hose you brokerage charges like you wouldn't believe.  I've rarely had a problem with the Post, but I've always had problems with UPS.
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: Acill on August 26, 2003, 09:18:15 AM
Well from what I have seen you can get a lot for an A4000 with good stuff in it here on the US Ebay site. I've allways wanted to get one, but my A3000 is so loaded I dont see the point any longer. Here is an example of what people ask for them. Though This one started way to high to attract any bidders.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2749342369&category=4598

Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: xeron on August 26, 2003, 09:55:33 AM
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060,s fetch around £170 every 060 i have seen has sold for that much


Blimey! Analogic do brand new Apollo 1260/50 cards for £127.61 + VAT (£149.95). I wouldn't pay more than £80 - 90 for a second hand one!
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: tintin on August 26, 2003, 04:40:15 PM
@aardvark @Acill
Thanx for the info.  I will have to think about it, parting with the old girl is not as easy I guess.  Wonder what I could still use the Amiga for ?

@All
Sorry for going off topic all the time, I have this habit of wondering when I read stuff... you can always just ignore me :-)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: jeffimix on August 26, 2003, 06:23:30 PM
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iamaboringperson wrote:
Ah, the irrational buyer! :-D

The fact is buyers aren't stupid, some just have a different oppintion as to what's of value and of how much value it is.

To say that you know the price better than they do, is arrogance IMO, since we all have different wants and desires.



Yeah, and once I got WB3.1 running, I'm gonna want a scandoubler realy d**n bad (B&W TV just doesn't do it for me when I want to use it as an art machine)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: amigamad on August 26, 2003, 06:46:11 PM
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So you experienced guys guess it would be worth selling an original Commodore Amiga 4000/040 on ebay ? Would it be better to sell the system as a whole or sell the videocard and ethernetcard etc... seperately ? I know it sounds like blasphemy wanting to sell at all but to be honest, I'm not a gamer so I have little use left for the old girl. Anyway, I think any future for the Amiga is in the new systems.


Your better spliting it you should make more by taking the graphics and ethernet cards out. :-)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: amigamad on August 26, 2003, 06:56:02 PM
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Blimey! Analogic do brand new Apollo 1260/50 cards for £127.61 + VAT (£149.95). I wouldn't pay more than £80 - 90 for a second hand one!


But i think some users might not know you can buy amiga stuff new and think second hand is the only way to get something . :-)
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: Quixote on August 26, 2003, 07:56:02 PM
aardvark advised:
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Oh, by the way don't ship UPS if the package is going to cross  the border.  They are bandits and will hose you brokerage charges like you wouldn't believe.  I've rarely had a problem with the Post, but I've always had problems with UPS.
;-) They tried that with me a few years ago, when I bought my A4000 from Canada.  They sent me a bill for a service that I hadn't contracted for, so I just ignored it, and they never followed up on it.
Title: Re: amiga ebay users are they stupid ?
Post by: jeffimix on August 26, 2003, 10:08:38 PM
I'll remember that if I buy stuff form Canada, I usually get stuff from E-bay thru UPS ground.