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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: sdyates on September 05, 2008, 12:21:40 AM
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I do hope they will support USB for keyboards and mice :)
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I can answer this (ok make an educated guess)....and the answer is much better now!
Why is that you ask, well because Jens has now finished the IndivisionAGA which must have been absorbing at lot of his time. Hopefully now he'll be able to focus on ConeA instead :-D
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That he had time to do the Indivision is a good sign in itself.
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jens is a genius
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mikrucio wrote:
jens is a genius
guess the pun i was thinking of
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I guess that leads me to ask what IndivisionAGA is :)
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sdyates wrote:
I guess that leads me to ask what IndivisionAGA is :)
Have you been sleeping the past couple months, or are you kidding?
IndivisionAGA is a brand new internal scandoubler for the A1200 that outperforms any scandoubler that has come before it for any Amiga. Very much anticipated and wanted, I believe it was first announced almost a year ago.
I can't wait to get one for my A1200/060 soon (hopefully at AmiWest 2008)
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http://siliconsonic.de/news/Indivision_AGA.pdf
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To be honest, i am a 100 times more excited about Clone-A than a scandoubler, for the following reasons:
1. A brand new Amiga, that is a 100% copy of the A500. My Amigas can die in peace :)
2. It will be small, very small!
3. It has an inbuilt scandoubler anyway :-D
I now that it wont AGA games but 99% of games are play are OCS. Clone-A is the reason I never got a minimig.
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Everblue wrote:
To be honest, i am a 100 times more excited about Clone-A than a scandoubler, for the following reasons:
1. A brand new Amiga, that is a 100% copy of the A500. My Amigas can die in peace :)
2. It will be small, very small!
3. It has an inbuilt scandoubler anyway :-D
I now that it wont AGA games but 99% of games are play are OCS. Clone-A is the reason I never got a minimig.
Sounds just like my Minimig. :-D
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Wow your minimig runs all A500 software perfectly, and it can save too?
I'm impressed!
:roll:
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Everblue wrote:
Wow your minimig runs all A500 software perfectly, and it can save too?
I'm impressed!
:roll:
If you have been keeping up with the new core developments for the MiniMig, you would know that writing to the adf image files is now possible so saving data, or in effect writing to the mounted virtual floppy disk has been fixed.
You should be "impressed"!
I hate to even say this, and I am sure the Clone-A will be a great and amazing product if/when it gets here, but to be perfectly honest, if I were Jens, I would be looking very hard at the return on his investment of time and money to complete the Clone-A project and then try to calculate the cost to produce it, the demand from the community, and his anticipated return on said investment of time and money.
With the MiniMig doing so well, will another A500 clone sell in the numbers needed to make enough money to cover the production costs?
Where I could see the Clone-A product succeeding is as a tiny component add-on to a future next generation Amiga-like computer running AmigaOS4.x, or MorphOS3.x, where the Clone-A component serves as a hardware substitute mapped to provide full backward compatibility with all 68k applications and games without the need for UAE, or any other type of emulation.
Just my two cents on the Clone-A product.
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"If you have been keeping up with the new core developments for the MiniMig, you would know that writing to the adf image files is now possible so saving data, or in effect writing to the mounted virtual floppy disk has been fixed."
Alright I did not know that. Thats good. Its not that I dont like minimig, but when I look at the games compatability list its far from 100% Jens promsises (obviously he can promise one thing and deliver something else, but thats another thing altogether.
"I hate to even say this, and I am sure the Clone-A will be a great and amazing product if/when it gets here, but to be perfectly honest, if I were Jens, I would be looking very hard at the return on his investment of time and money to complete the Clone-A project and then try to calculate the cost to produce it, the demand from the community, and his anticipated return on said investment of time and money."
Hey dont try and discourage him :)
"With the MiniMig doing so well, will another A500 clone sell in the numbers needed to make enough money to cover the production costs?"
If the MiniMig is far from perfect and doing well, I imagine a perfect A500 clone to do FAR better.
UPDATE: I have just read the news (and the thread) on the new core update. Ok I am really impressed as many games now work.
One question - I have a 15" LCD monitor (1024 x 768 native resolution). What resolution will the minimig output at? I am asing this, because usually, if its not displaying a native res., it will look a bit blurry.
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@Everblue
To be honest, i am a 100 times more excited about Clone-A than a scandoubler, for the following reasons:
It's interesting to me because I have bought a couple of genlocks to play about with and the DCE scandoubler I had meant I couldn't use them with my A1200.
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@Everblue
Just two things:
1) http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47510
2) http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47461
:-)
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Everblue wrote:
Wow your minimig runs all A500 software perfectly, and it can save too?
I'm impressed!
:roll:
Yes it can. OCS and ECS and configure the RAM to 512/0, 512/512 and 512/1024... oh and I can select between a PAL and NTSC machine too.
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Everblue wrote:
One question - I have a 15" LCD monitor (1024 x 768 native resolution). What resolution will the minimig output at? I am asing this, because usually, if its not displaying a native res., it will look a bit blurry.
The Minimig will output at native resolutions, but the monitor should be able to scale them to fit the screen. I actually use a widescreen LCD display (see pic) and love it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/100_1273s.jpg
I'll also be supporting the Clone-A when it is released.
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sdyates wrote:
I do hope they will support USB for keyboards and mice :)
In USB mode? WTF for? Most USB keyboards and mice have PS/2 legacy mode built in so they can be used with MiniMig or possibly Clone-A with just a cheap passive adapter (http://www.mouse2house.co.uk/admin/callfun.php?AddImg=images/ProductImages/other-CB-AM7CO.jpg&width=150&height=150).
NovaCoder wrote:
Why is that you ask, well because Jens has now finished the IndivisionAGA which must have been absorbing at lot of his time. Hopefully now he'll be able to focus on Clone-A instead :-D
Indivision AGA 1200 was a much easier project to do than Clone-A. The specifications for video are well known, it was a relatively simple task with a start and an end. Whereas Clone-A is all about reverse engineering the undocumented Amiga features. It could be a never ending task and balloon into years of work!
I also suspect that Jen's saw the prices of 2nd hand scandoublers, he also saw that there was a hole in the market. But I believe he also saw that if released Clone-A might accidentally fill that market? Why sell one product when you can sell two? ;-)
I do not believe that Indivision AGA 1200 really ate into Clone-A time :-)
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I would like a new A600 accelerator.
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I am waiting for Clone-A as well... i hope we get an in-depth status report soon, Jens?