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Please enjoy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIFwlkV6ANk
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Changed Topic to reflect actual content!
Song can be purchased here:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=285183046&id=285183043&s=143444
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It's brilliant! Congratulations :-D
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motorollin wrote:
It's brilliant! Congratulations :-D
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Thanks Mark!!! I appreciate that :-) This has been quite a lot of work (and some really good things have happened too ;-) ), but it is worth it in the end!
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Given the amount of work that has clearly gone into this, I feel that I should post back with something suitably artistic in response:
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Why yes, creating this was a ball ache, but it does capture my response to watching the video nicely I feel.
No, I won't be doing another any time soon :lol:
--edits--
Speaking of electronic music, I blame karlos for this, but it would seem weebl and bob have gone out of their way to further corrupt and destroy (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/Destroy/) the genre for me...
Seriously though mate, well done, that really was a nice piece, both musically and in terms of the video.
:-)
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@the_leander
If you liked the song, check out their album. It's brilliant!
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very nice Black and White textures there. nice effects, really.
I had to watch it twice (second time with the sound off) to realize the GUY had also been duplicated.....
tell us about the process..what did you use to shoot this, edit it, etc.
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cecilia wrote:
very nice Black and White textures there. nice effects, really.
I had to watch it twice (second time with the sound off) to realize the GUY had also been duplicated.....
tell us about the process..what did you use to shoot this, edit it, etc.
I can only really talk about the Music, and "acting" (I'm the one with the hair over my right eye... note my Avatar) in it... since that's all I did... the production company did the film work. :-)
Both James and the Leading Lady were doubled up and it took ages of shooting the same scene over and over again... with Actors having to hit their marks perfectly... I did see a longer edit of that scene, where the actors moved around more... but most of the material was cut to fit the music...
I guess this is actually your area!! If you have any questions I will put them to the Director :-)
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I'm the one with the hair over my right eye
oh, I knew that right away...I can tell an amiga user from 100 miles
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2qvqc2g.gif)
Both James and the Leading Lady were doubled up and it took ages of shooting the same scene over and over again... with Actors having to hit their marks perfectly... I did see a longer edit of that scene, where the actors moved around more... but most of the material was cut to fit the music...
ah, been there, done that (behind the scenes, that is)
seems boring, doesn't it???
not to the crew...we are rivited by that stuff
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I hope you don't mind, but I took the liberty to put the link into a couple of other forums I frequent?
Again though, well played :-)
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I love it! :-D :love:
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Most impressive :-o
But who's the foppish deviant at 1:26, I wonder?
*ducks*
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the_leander wrote:
I hope you don't mind, but I took the liberty to put the link into a couple of other forums I frequent?
Again though, well played :-)
Spread the word! I welcome the link being thrown everywhere :-)
Cheers!
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Karlos wrote:
Most impressive :-o
But who's the foppish deviant at 1:26, I wonder?
*ducks*
Oh.. just some tramp that wandered in off the street... we managed to get rid of him though ;-)
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@ bloodline
Damn! I can't even watch it on my slow dial-up connection. Could you post it as a file on CD-R? (If so, we'll call it quits on that fiver you owe me :-D)
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the_leander
NICE! Very artistic 8-)
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A4000_Mad wrote:
@ bloodline
Damn! I can't even watch it on my slow dial-up connection. Could you post it as a file on CD-R? (If so, we'll call it quits on that fiver you owe me :-D)
Once I get the HD-DVD master... I'll see what I can do.
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the_leander
NICE! Very artistic 8-)
I know, quite how he did that I don't know!!! Brilliant :-D
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Ya'll done good.
It reminds me of the song "The friends of Mr Cairo" by Jon Anderson and Vangelis.
Of course Bloodline looks much more menacing than those dudes, but you need some pistols to complete the picture.
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@ bloodline
We've just got Broadband and I've enjoyed watching your video on the wifes new netbook using WiFi 8-)
My own laptop can only work with something called WEP. Anyone know if it can be made to use something called WAN? :crazy:
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A4000_Mad wrote:
My own laptop can only work with something called WEP. Anyone know if it can be made to use something called WAN? :crazy:
WEP and WAN are components of totally different technologies.
WAN = Wide Area Network (i.e. the Internet)
WEP = Wired Equivalent Protocol (security for wireless networks)
So you use WEP to authenticate your computer to access your wireless router, and the router then connects to the WAN (your ISP).
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moto
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He probably meant WPA, which, AFAIK, the PCMCIA network cards compatible with the A1200 and A600 can't do. WEP is very easy to crack and should never be used unless you don't give a toss about privacy.
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Thanks for that explaination moto :-)
Odin is correct as I should have said WPA. My old laptop will only use WEP as it asked a for 40 character password which was much longer than the password we were given by Sky. I rang Sky and the guy said we should just change the wifes netbook to WEP as well. But this didn't work for her new netbook, so he suggest I try to upgrade my laptop to make it WPA capable.
So I'm wanting to get my laptop to be able to use WPA if possible?
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laptop info:-
It's almost 5 years old.
Made by Time Computers.
Mobile AMD Athlon 2600+
XP Home Edition with Service Pack 1
Would upgrading to XP Pro give it WPA capability? Or is there some other software which I could download that might do the trick?
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Unless you give some more details about what kind of WLAN hardware the laptop uses (built-in, PCMCIA card, USB thing etc) the only thing I could suggest is getting a new PCMCIA WLAN card, such as this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156140) one.
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Thanks odin
Hopefully this screenshot will help to explain the problem:-
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/WiFi.jpg)
Btw... I've just connected the laptop to the router using the yellow ethernet lead and surfed the Internet with Broadband no problem at all.
I believe the hardware that the laptop is trying to use to connect the Broadband signal wirelessly is the 'IEEE802.11b MiniPCI Wireless Network Adapter' shown under Network adapters in Device Manager above.
Our Sky network is found ok by the laptops WiFi, but only WEP is mentioned in the screenshot above. When I enter our correct 8 character password, I get the annoying report at the top of the screenshot.
Any thoughts please?
@ bloodline
This is on topic because the first thing I'm gonna do if it gets sorted is to watch your video again using my own laptop ;-)
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"IEEE802.11b MiniPCI Wireless Network Adapter" doesn't give much info on what the card actually is. Sounds like it's using a generic driver. If you could find out what the actual card is (maybe in the spec of the laptop) then you might be able to install a specific driver which may enable WPA if the card supports it.
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thanks moto
I've just bought a LINKSYS Wireless-G USB Network Adapter. I tried it on my PC tower and connected fine using WPA. I put it on the laptop and got that same annoying report about the password needing to be 40 characters long.
Me now thinks it could possibly be the old XP Home Edition version 2002 on the laptop?
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Sometimes the wireless card comes with its own management software which takes over (and disables) Windows's management of the connection. Perhaps it is this which doesn't support WPA? Check for that and disable it if there is any, then try again with the new card. Failing that, check whether you have the latest Service Packs and whether it's the same version of XP (Home vs. Pro). Then throw that machine away and get a MacBook :-P
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Thanks moto
What's a MacBook? :-P
Is it one of things I saw in PC world with no right mouse button? After using ToolsDaemon for years on the Amiga, I don't think I could cope without the right mousey :-D
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MacBooks don't have any mouse buttons any more. :-o
My new MBP arrives next week :-)
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A4000_Mad wrote:
Thanks moto
What's a MacBook? :-P
Is it one of things I saw in PC world with no right mouse button?
Close. it's one of those things you saw in PC World that is so well designed that it doesn't *need* a right mouse button :-P
A4000_Mad wrote:
After using ToolsDaemon for years on the Amiga, I don't think I could cope without the right mousey :-D
I thought the same. But I adjusted. And actually, the OS supports a right mouse button on USB or Bluetooth mice if you absolutely must use one. Also, if you hold down two fingers on the trackpad then click the mouse button, it will carry out the function of the right mouse button.
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bloodline wrote:
MacBooks don't have any mouse buttons any more. :-o
Oh yeah! For anyone who doesn't know, the whole trackpad has been turned into the mouse button. And I don't mean that annoying thing where you tap the trackpad for a mouse button, which requires you to do complicated double-taps if you want to drag, and is easy to accidentally click. No, Apple have actually made the whole trackpad in to a physical button which pushes in. It's so nice to sweep over to something, push in on the trackpad, and have that item selected. Keep your finger pushed and keep moving and the object will be dragged. It's seriously sexy!
bloodline wrote:
My new MBP arrives next week :-)
I've been thinking about setting all the free Amiga gear I got recently, selling my MacBook, and seeing if that's enough to get a new MB with my student discount :idea:
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First off, check the help sections and tutorials here (http://www.skyuser.co.uk/)
Or you could just as easily call Sky and ask them to supply you with another USB wireless dongle
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Thanks ZeBeeDee
I was on the phone to sky for 2 hours but they couldn't sort anything out. A USB dongle which works fine with XP Pro on my tower, won't work with the old XP Home Edition version on my laptop. I think I'll have to upgrade the laptop to XP Pro.
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motorollin wrote:
bloodline wrote:
My new MBP arrives next week :-)
I've been thinking about setting all the free Amiga gear I got recently, selling my MacBook, and seeing if that's enough to get a new MB with my student discount :idea:
First post with my new MBP :-)
Trackpad takes a little getting used to... but a brilliant machine :-)
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So what's it like? I also found the new trackpad a bit strange, but I could see its benefits.
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Overall, the machine is a work of art... It's not going to appeal to everyone. It is stupidly powerful, and you can forget it's a laptop... All 3D games I could throw at it, ran perfectly.... As a Logic machine (my main use) it is faultless... I can't thnk of a better music machine...
Any other questions?
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bloodline wrote:
Any other questions?
I would be interested to know what spec it is?
i.e. Ghz, RAM, HHD, USB, Firewire, DVDwriter etc etc
Also interested to know how your music is going? (and if you have any more pix of the girls? :-D)
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2.8 Ghz Dual Core CPU.
4Gig DDR3 RAM.
320Gig HDD @7200rpm
FireWire 800.
Nvidia 9400 and 9600 GPUs
15.4" display.
Standard dual layer DVD burner.
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Hi,
I hope you don't get to angry at me for this critique but the whole video lacked color, there was no story line to this video, I just didn't get it, the person singing it had an eerie voice and the one poor guy looked like he had not seen a barber in at least 10 years. The back ground music sounded good though, and the drummer was excellent. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would rate this video at a 4 that is just one point above Madonna, I think you should take a good look at Mariah C. videos, now there is a video that I could watch all day, I love her commercials and would rate her a definate 10. Sorry I just thought you should know that this video needs some color, and by all means get a new lead singer, he would do great singing for a mag called the haunted house or eerie, but as a professional singer he just doesn't have it
smerf
all in all bearable, I suffered through it twice.
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@Smurf
I welcome your comments. The look was intentionally black and white and flickery, as we were trying to copy the style of old science fiction movies...
The story line was something that is hard to convey in 5 minutes... I felt the director did a good job... But then I know the plot, so I'm at an advantage here.
When it comes to singers, I guess you either love them or hate them... I can't stand Amy Winehouse, for example... but there are some people in this world who believe she can sing... and then go and buy her records... it is a crazy world!
I'm glad you were able to enjoy at least some part of the song/video... after all, that's why I made it :-)
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Lorraine wrote:
Well I've just watched this a few times now and I was thinking about posting quite a few things about the video. But then I looked at some of the other posts and the familiarity of the posters and thought since I've not been here very long it probably wouldn't mean as much coming from me.
I don't know how bloodline feels about that, but I disagree. I will hopefully be releasing my album in the not too distant future, and I don't really care about the opinions of people who know me very well. Their opinions will be based on a reaction along the lines of "wow, this person we have known for a long time has created this thing which we didn't know about!" rather than judging it purely on the basis of the music. Therefore people who don't know you as well (or at all) are more useful as judges of the quality of your work IMO.
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Moto is right, I'm terms of critique it is better (though often more unpleasant) to get the POV of outsiders/strangers.
But for me, I just want people to enjoy it... I am afterall just an entertainer, my job is to entertain. If people don't like what I do then I have to adapt to their needs, the audience shouldn't have to come to me... In an ideal world we would meet half way, but in reality no one needs what I create, so I have to create something that they want, even if they don't need it and I don't like it.
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motorollin wrote:
I don't know how bloodline feels about that, but I disagree. I will hopefully be releasing my album in the not too distant future, and I don't really care about the opinions of people who know me very well. Their opinions will be based on a reaction along the lines of "wow, this person we have known for a long time has created this thing which we didn't know about!" rather than judging it purely on the basis of the music. Therefore people who don't know you as well (or at all) are more useful as judges of the quality of your work IMO.
This is really stated from a British POV. Dutch ppl are way much more direct (sometimes too direct IMHO)
So, you can rely on my and Odin's opinions stated here. :-)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Dutch ppl are way much more direct (sometimes too direct IMHO)
So, you can rely on my and Odin's opinions stated here. :-)
Ain't that the truth! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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bloodline wrote:
Moto is right, I'm terms of critique it is better (though often more unpleasant) to get the POV of outsiders/strangers.
But for me, I just want people to enjoy it... I am afterall just an entertainer, my job is to entertain. If people don't like what I do then I have to adapt to their needs, the audience shouldn't have to come to me... In an ideal world we would meet half way, but in reality no one needs what I create, so I have to create something that they want, even if they don't need it and I don't like it.
I can totally see where you're coming from. But my album is selfish. It's for me. If other people like it then great. If it means something to somebody somewhere, or in any way makes somebody think about what I've written, then wonderful. But I'm not prepared to adapt it to the audience. I don't care if it's not successful ;-)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
This is really stated from a British POV. Dutch ppl are way much more direct (sometimes too direct IMHO)
So, you can rely on my and Odin's opinions stated here. :-)
Yes, British people tend to be over-polite. I really don't understand it. I suppose it comes down to not wanting to hurt people's feelings. But if somebody is seeking a genuine, honest opinion then I think it's more disrespectful to lie for the sake of their feelings than it is to give your honest opinion.
So I look forward to your opinions of my album - if I ever finish it!
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@moto
That is because your project is an artistic one rather than a comercial one... But you never know, there may well be an audience for what you want to do! :-)
People who create art, which they like and the audience likes are very lucky!
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@moto
That is because your project is an artistic one rather than a comercial one... But you never know, there may well be an audience for what you want to do! :-)
People who create art, which they like and the audience likes are very lucky!
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I think "artistic" is a bit generous... I see myself more like a monkey on a typewriter. If I keep bashing the keyboard, eventually something reasonable might end up getting created ;-)
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Lorraine wrote:
I don't think it's the same thing as politeness (unless you mean generally)
Yes, I meant more generally. Though I think this trait is changing. Personally, I try to model my behaviour on that of Greg House :lol:
Lorraine wrote:
Generally, I'd like to always speak honestly to people. The reactions and {bleep}iness I get from some though in retaliation makes me think twice now about everything I say. Hence, why I didn't want to say too much to bloodline in case he was just showing off his masterpiece to 'his clique'. ;-)
I see now that isn't the case.
I have yet to see bloodline lose his temper - so I think you're quite safe ;-)
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Lorraine wrote:
motorollin wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
This is really stated from a British POV. Dutch ppl are way much more direct (sometimes too direct IMHO)
So, you can rely on my and Odin's opinions stated here. :-)
Yes, British people tend to be over-polite. I really don't understand it.
I don't think it's the same thing as politeness (unless you mean generally) but I don't think people these days count it as a virtue (I know I know, we are more like Americans now) but the cliquishness is very much alive still (class and rich/poor divides as bad as ever, too) which prevents people from saying bad things to their faces (behind their backs is another story) and is one of the reasons I've almost completely fallen out of love with this country.
I suppose it comes down to not wanting to hurt people's feelings. But if somebody is seeking a genuine, honest opinion then I think it's more disrespectful to lie for the sake of their feelings than it is to give your honest opinion.
So I look forward to your opinions of my album - if I ever finish it!
Generally, I'd like to always speak honestly to people. The reactions and b*tchiness I get from some though in retaliation makes me think twice now about everything I say. Hence, why I didn't want to say too much to bloodline in case he was just showing off his masterpiece to 'his clique'. ;-)
I see now that isn't the case.
* Edit: Nevermind.
Haha, no mine is a comercial product... If you like it, buy it, tell your friends... If you don't like it, slag me off, tell me I'm lame and most importantly tell me what I did wrong :-)
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motorollin wrote:
I think "artistic" is a bit generous... I see myself more like a monkey on a typewriter. If I keep bashing the keyboard, eventually something reasonable might end up getting created ;-)
Well, monkeys can swing real good :lol:
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the_leander wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Dutch ppl are way much more direct (sometimes too direct IMHO)
So, you can rely on my and Odin's opinions stated here. :-)
Ain't that the truth! :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:
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motorollin wrote:
I suppose it comes down to not wanting to hurt people's feelings. But if somebody is seeking a genuine, honest opinion then I think it's more disrespectful to lie for the sake of their feelings than it is to give your honest opinion.
Well, I think it's wanting to avoid uncomfortable social situations rather than conciously lying. (which at the same time is a rich source of the famous British humour)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
motorollin wrote:
I think "artistic" is a bit generous... I see myself more like a monkey on a typewriter. If I keep bashing the keyboard, eventually something reasonable might end up getting created ;-)
Well, monkeys can swing real good :lol:
"Are you kidding? I put the GRRRRRR in swinger, baby!"
;-)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Well, I think it's wanting to avoid uncomfortable social situations rather than conciously lying. (which at the same time is a rich source of the famous British humour)
You're right about not wanting to create uncomfortable social situations, but I don't think that means it's not necessarily a conscious lie. If somebody asks me what I think of, say, their hair cut, if I didn't like it then I would immediately become aware of the fact that an honest response may not only create an uncomfortable social situation but could also be hurtful to that individual. I have a choice at this point: lie and tell the person what I think they want to hear, resulting in them feeling better about themselves but still having a horrible hair cut, or give them an honest answer so that, if they decide that my opinion is really that important, they can do something about it. Because I usually opt for the latter, people who know me tend to ask for my opinion on things fully prepared for a totally honest response. People who don't know me so well are sometimes surprised by my honesty, but my experience is that people ultimately respect the fact that I am honest (but polite about it). I tend to expect the same from others.
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motorollin wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
motorollin wrote:
I think "artistic" is a bit generous... I see myself more like a monkey on a typewriter. If I keep bashing the keyboard, eventually something reasonable might end up getting created ;-)
Well, monkeys can swing real good :lol:
"Are you kidding? I put the GRRRRRR in swinger, baby!"
;-)
Eh? I don't understand that one :-?
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motorollin wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Well, I think it's wanting to avoid uncomfortable social situations rather than conciously lying. (which at the same time is a rich source of the famous British humour)
You're right about not wanting to create uncomfortable social situations, but I don't think that means it's not necessarily a conscious lie. If somebody asks me what I think of, say, their hair cut, if I didn't like it then I would immediately become aware of the fact that an honest response may not only create an uncomfortable social situation but could also be hurtful to that individual. I have a choice at this point: lie and tell the person what I think they want to hear, resulting in them feeling better about themselves but still having a horrible hair cut, or give them an honest answer so that, if they decide that my opinion is really that important, they can do something about it. Because I usually opt for the latter, people who know me tend to ask for my opinion on things fully prepared for a totally honest response. People who don't know me so well are sometimes surprised by my honesty, but my experience is that people ultimately respect the fact that I am honest (but polite about it). I tend to expect the same from others.
The only problem I have with honesty is when it's outed too early. I consider it rude when someone think he/she can have a good opinion about for instance music when he/she has heard he very first minute of a performance.
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Eh? I don't understand that one :-?
It's a quote from Austin Powers. Some bit of crumpet asks in if he swings, and that was how he responded. It's probably funnier coming from him, and not in text form ;-)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
The only problem I have with honesty is when it's outed too early. I consider it rude when someone think he/she can have a good opinion about for instance music when he/she has heard he very first minute of a performance.
Ahh yes, I agree with you there. It can take time for music to get under your skin, especially if it is different to what you would usually listen to. For example, when I first started listening to Radiohead I hated it, but I am lucky enough to have been trained in music so could recognise that even though the sound wasn't quite pleasing to my ear, there was something there of value. So I persevered, and now I adore their music. If I were to play, say, Everything In Its Right Place, Paranoid Android or Faust Arp to my father, he would immediately say he doesn't like it. If I tried to explain that it takes time to get used to it, he would refuse. I see this attitude a lot with music, and it makes me sad to think that people are missing out on something beautiful because they refuse to open their minds, give it a chance, and accept the possibility that what they're hearing could change them. After all, surely that's the point of music in the first place.
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motorollin wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
The only problem I have with honesty is when it's outed too early. I consider it rude when someone think he/she can have a good opinion about for instance music when he/she has heard he very first minute of a performance.
Ahh yes, I agree with you there. It can take time for music to get under your skin, especially if it is different to what you would usually listen to. For example, when I first started listening to Radiohead I hated it, but I am lucky enough to have been trained in music so could recognise that even though the sound wasn't quite pleasing to my ear, there was something there of value. So I persevered, and now I adore their music. If I were to play, say, Everything In Its Right Place, Paranoid Android or Faust Arp to my father, he would immediately say he doesn't like it. If I tried to explain that it takes time to get used to it, he would refuse. I see this attitude a lot with music, and it makes me sad to think that people are missing out on something beautiful because they refuse to open their minds, give it a chance, and accept the possibility that what they're hearing could change them. After all, surely that's the point of music in the first place.
Without wanting to make this thread soggy, this post exactly state my feelings :-)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Without wanting to make this thread soggy, this post exactly state my feelings :-)
Well, in for a penny, in for a pound.....
:knuddel:
:lol:
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Lorraine wrote:
And that's the difference between being politely dishonest and in-your-face "telling-it-how-it-is" biatch!
Being honest isn't necessarily insulting someone, nor shouting things that come to mind.
Quite. But what one person intends as delicate honesty, another person may interpret as insulting. The person asking for an opinion on their hair will probably be doing it for one of three reasons:
1. They suspect their hair looks awful and they are seeking confirmation so they know they need to change it.
2. They suspect their hair looks awful and are hoping for reassurance that it actually looks ok.
3. They genuinely have no opinion regarding their hair and are seeking an objective opinion.
In cases 1 and 3, the individual will most likely be grateful for an honest opinion, even if that opinion confirms that their hair is horrible. However, in situation 2 the individual is probably sensitive and since they are seeking reassurance, may well feel insulted by an honest response even if it was not intended that way.
Lorraine wrote:
If this was Big Brother being honesty is usually perceived as one of two things:
1) The person isn't two-faced, he/she keeps it real.
2) The person is bullying, Offcom on standby...
I have never watched Big Brother, so I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about ;-)
Lorraine wrote:
Moto's idea was good for telling the truth when it is needed, not for the sake of it - having a bad haircut could hurt someone more in the longrun.
Well, maybe we're over-analysing. But for me politeness is paramount first, and then common sense kicks in for how much honesty is needed.
Quite. And the skill in reading the speaker in order to discover their true intention (i.e. why they are asking you about their hair) is important for this very reason. Your interpretation of your communication partner's intentions will shape your responses, and response to them will likewise be interpreted not only by what they know about you but also by their motivation for asking the question in the first place. It is often very difficult to truly get in to the head of a speaker, which is why questions like "what do you think of my hair?" are often responded to with a follow-up question like "why?" in order to discover the motivation of the speaker, in order to ensure that your response is congruent with their goal so as to avoid hurting their feelings.
Communication is fascinating :-D
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blah blah, stop all your waffling and tell me about my damn video :-x
;-) :-)
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bloodline wrote:
blah blah, stop all your waffling and tell me about my damn video :-x
;-) :-)
I've already said I like it. What more do you want? :-P
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motorollin wrote:
objective opinion.
*Cough*
I don't want to be rude, but....
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bloodline wrote:
blah blah, stop all your waffling and tell me about my damn video :-x
;-) :-)
Ooooh someone wants attention!
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motorollin wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Without wanting to make this thread soggy, this post exactly state my feelings :-)
Well, in for a penny, in for a pound.....
:knuddel:
:lol:
:lol:
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I'd love to stay, but I really have to get back to work :-(
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
motorollin wrote:
objective opinion.
*Cough*
I don't want to be rude, but....
Hmm good point. But you know what I meant ;-)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
I'd love to stay, but I really have to get back to work :-(
Yeah me too. Though my mini-essay above about pragmatics was somewhat pertinent to my course...
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