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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: jimmyboy on August 19, 2008, 03:44:52 AM
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Ebay makes me laugh at times check out this auction Item number: 370077615945 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amiga-1200-Tower-2x-CD-drives-extra-memory-68040-chip_W0QQitemZ370077615945QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item370077615945&_trkparms=72%3A1121%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)
ROFL the seller says this:
"From what i can see it has:
Over 35meg of memory
68040 CPU
68040 + 68882 FPU
Its running at 392Mhz (which is faster than any original Amiga ever ran)
Sorry but this did kinda hit me a bit funny. :lol: :lol:
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A glitch in the stats program?
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He may not know much about Amiga's, but he surely knows something about overclocking that poor 68040 CPU...:roflmao:
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That doesn't look like the version of SysInfo I have... is his older, perhaps, and just bad?
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I think you can get still more impressive figures when running on RTG screen (ModePro + force planar) as SysInfo takes its reference from Vblank. My A500T/060 could make 52 Mips @66MHz even with 50 Hz, probably 70-80 Mips when running on some 70-80 Hz refresh - don't remember exactly how the figure rose, but it wasn't totally logical. :roflmao:
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It is 39.2MHz surely. The fastest 040 chip was 40MHz
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@alexh
My thought too, as the speed comparison chart makes sense.
It's compared to a PP&S Mercury 040 as being 1.84 times faster.
According to BBoAH (http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/cgi-bin/showhardware_en.cgi?HARDID=240) it was delivered in 28, 33 and 35mhz.
Not knowing the performance of the card Nic Wilson based his comparison on, and just using the 39.2mhz as a base. I'd guess it was the 28mhz card. Just because SysInfo is old, and the higher specs cards might be newer :)
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I remember different versions of SysInfo (tried many) gave totally different MHz figures when running a 060 - usually somewhere between 100 and 400 MHz...
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zipper wrote:
I remember different versions of SysInfo (tried many) gave totally different MHz figures when running a 060 - usually somewhere between 100 and 400 MHz...
Sysinfo screws up when you have a fast CPU, common knowledge. It says my Cyberstorm MkIII runs at 392MHz as well, and I've seen it display a Blizzard 1260 running at 4MHz. Sysinfo is a nice looking program, but not very reliable. I wonder what it does with an overclocked 060 :-)
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i seem to remember sysinfo finished being developed around the time that 030's were king of the hill, and 040's were just an excited rumor in a magazine. its a good program, don't get me wrong, and nicely laid out, plus i still run it for comparison of older systems, but it doesn't understand the double execution units or branch prediction of the 060, so reports back less than half the actual power of the chip.
something better would be Piru's which amiga, for an actual list of whats in a machine. i'm not sure there are any modern benching tools now? there was one i remember that even understood PPC cpus, and even graphics cards, but i can't remember what it was called...
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darksun9210 wrote:
i seem to remember sysinfo finished being developed around the time that 030's were king of the hill, and 040's were just an excited rumor in a magazine.
Not true. V3.24 (last?) came out after the A4000/40
(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/4308/1_3746.jpg)
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Yup, version 3.24 (http://aminet.net/util/moni/SysInfo.readme) is atleast the latest at Aminet
And it's version 3.1 that it's used in the ebay listing.
Also, trying to google Nic Wilson brings up at author of DVDInfo-Pro. And a controversy at CDFreaks. Wonder if that's the same guy, and if he still has the code for Sysinfo, and if he would donate it to the community.
Would be nice if someone updated Sysinfo with new comparison data, and possability to handle 060's and more RAM.
Also more vendor and board ids too.
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There are already better equivalents.
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@alexh
AIBB and SysSpeed? Haven't tried them since for ever.
What I like about Sysinfo is that it's just the runnable which is needed, and it works straight out of boot with no startup sequence, even though that's not perfect. But it quickly gives you some crude diagnostics.
I've got it on a CF which I maintain using UAE, and I check out amigas that don't behave nicely.
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I liked Sysinfo "back in the day" purely for the buzz of a new comment when you got a new bit of speed kit...
I remember the feeling when I first got the comment saying call me now!!!
WinUAE users wont ever get that feeling, because creating a souped up emulated miggy is now so easy.....
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yeah i saw this the other day and thought it was amuseing lol. I dont even think a ppc could run at that?
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I'm sorry but this is the most ugly towerized Amiga I've ever seen. :oops: