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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: amigakidd on August 17, 2008, 05:04:17 PM
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I don't have a real Amiga, but use Amiga Forever and WinUAE
as my "software Amiga computing" needs. I love playing with my Amiga software every weekend (the only time I find time to play) I thought about this: This is just my hobby.
There are no limitations and no restrictions.
How many of you use an Amiga for everyday computing (I mean earn a living) using one.
Is owning an Amiga or emulating one just a hobby?
Why do we bother? What makes it so different to owning
a PC/Mac? Do we become special when we own an Amiga or a copy of Amiga Forever? Is it a cult following?
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Here I using Amiga every day for all..And I dont have PC :-D only two miggy A1200 and ua1c both whit OS4 :crazy: ...and of course my brtoher have one a1200 :) :crazy:
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amigakidd wrote:
Is owning an Amiga or emulating one just a hobby?
Why do we bother? What makes it so different to owning
a PC/Mac? Do we become special when we own an Amiga or a copy of Amiga Forever? Is it a cult following?
For most of us, the Amiga is just a hobbymachine.
The Amiga in itself is nothing really special as it is, ofcourse: just a pile of chips with some builtin software. But it's nice to use the hard- and software you used ten or twenty years ago when it was top of the line. That is why there are still so many old computers in use, all of them with a dedicated following.
Whether this be the C64, a ZX Spectrum, Amiga, Atari ST, MSX or whatever: people using them to this day, are using them mainly because they have fond memories about using them in the 80-ies and early 90-ies.
I like my Amigas (1200, 2000 & 3000) for two reasons: I can still use the software I used back then (games, demos, whatever) but I can now also use the soft- and hardware I was never able to buy when I was a boy. The same goes for my C64/128.
With the Amiga, I like its design, the functional combination of custom chips and the well designed OS. I prefer it very much to something like the Atari ST, but still there are many people having very fond memories concerning the ST.
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I think because it has that 68K charm, unlike todays Winintellymac corey duo machines. Like you said 80s and 90s.
I grew up in the early 90s, didn't have an Amiga, but seen it in commercials. I had a Sega Genesis. Some Amiga games made their way into the Genesis.
I think of the Amiga as a Hobby, a retrocomputing experience
to get away from my stressful job. It's like fixing a vintage car on a Saturday morning.
Did you know that AmigaDOS was based on TRIPOS language?
Similar to UNIX.
Try googling it. I found it to be interesting
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From 1998 until late 2002, my Amiga A1200 was my main machine. I used it for everything, email, web, word-processing - the whole shebang. Actually, it's quite mind-boggling how well it held up (or how I much I was willing put up with if you want to look at it that way :-))
Really it was only my inability to get hold of a GFX card that ultimately led me to drop it in favour of a Mac. The lack of CPU horse-power, was much less of an issue than you'd expect. The slow AGA and small screen-modes was the real killer for me.
There are a lot of computing tasks that have barely changed in the last 20 or so years, that I think an Amiga could cope with pretty well. I've yet to have a nice an email experience as I did with YAM back in the day.
With all that said, I always looked at my Amiga as a hobby as much as an every-day tool. It was always obvious they'd be a day when I couldn't blag it anymore.
But Life's no fun if you don't have a bit of a challenge ;-)
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For me its a hobby and a retro sound tool.
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I use my amigas for retrogaming and stuff like that,
using it for a everyday use for example web and mail is way too painful
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It is a hobby for me. If I had a network card and a decent web browser then I might use it more. But then it wouldn't have a flash player plugin, adobe reader etc...
I just enjoy playing the games on a real amiga and trying stuff out I never could when I was a kid due to no money. Now my miggy has all the things I wanted and more!
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tonyyeb wrote:
It is a hobby for me. If I had a network card and a decent web browser then I might use it more. But then it wouldn't have a flash player plugin, adobe reader etc...
Actually PDFs were never a problem, there were various PDF readers that seemed to do the job without problems for me. And there are *REALLY REALLY* basic flash players that will help with some basic stuff - it was good enough for an online course I took back in 2001*
People tend to dwell on the negatives when it comes to the Amiga's abilities, but it really is surprising just how much stuff they can do (usually with a bit of effort though).
* I know I'm starting to sound a little nutty here - believe me, I wouldn't swap a modern Mac/Windows/Linux box for a vintage 1992 Amiga.
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tonyyeb wrote:
It is a hobby for me. If I had a network card and a decent web browser then I might use it more. But then it wouldn't have a flash player plugin, adobe reader etc...
I just enjoy playing the games on a real amiga and trying stuff out I never could when I was a kid due to no money. Now my miggy has all the things I wanted and more!
It's easy to buy a X-Surf netcard from AmigaKit (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=250) :-)
Adope reader, try APDF get it from Aminet Link (http://aminet.net/search?query=apdf)
I do have a PC.. But I use my A4000 as much as I can :-)
But I also have to agree, Amiga is one of my hobbys, that I could not afford when I was younger. I think it is a great computer and I hope that Natami and other developers lets our hobby live many years from this day!
When it comes to games, I mainly use my CD32. There are still somee of my friends that enjoy playing on it too :-)
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Hobby machine... For sure. I haven't used an Amiga as my primary machine for about 7 or 8 years, now.
The lack of CPU horsepower is noticeable, but it can be worked around. The lack of current software... That's not as easy to deal with. As mentioned, web-browsers, flash, reader, etc... You just don't even think about them until all of a sudden you don't have them. (Sure, you have AWeb and Ghostscript, and sometimes they even work for more than an hour or two before they drag the OS off into Guru Meditation oblivion...) But I can't see using an Amiga as a primary system, anymore. It's a fun machine for what it does, but what it doesn't do kills it from consideration for primary use.
That's probably the only reason I didn't buy an EFIKA/MorphOS system. The price is right, the horsepower is pretty impressive for an AmigaOS-type system... (It'd drag my old A4000 out behind the barn and beat it senseless..) but again... The lack of software makes it not really usable as a primary system. :-(
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Hobby. As an engineer, always use the best tool for the job. Amiga is great for retrogaming.
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How many of you use an Amiga for everyday computing (I mean earn a living) using one.
I think those are two different things. Most don't use home computer for earning a living, but home computer is used for everyday computing.
In any case, I use Amiga (and/or Pegasos, which I count as amiga in these kind of questions) for everyday computing and also for work on situations I have to do work at home.
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@uncharted
@taunusand
Still no decent web browser though. And yes I am aware of the X-Surf. Too expensive for occasional use.
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tonyyeb wrote:
@uncharted
@taunusand
Still no decent web browser though. And yes I am aware of the X-Surf. Too expensive for occasional use.
I agree, but some of us just spend way too much money on our hobbies :-D
IBrowse is good enough for me, but again I agree, an update would be very nice!
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Hobby here: But Miggys still OWN Bill. He can kiss my Hairy hole! :-D
PDF & Flash is not a problem here! ;-)
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everyday computing? i would say yes, as i usualy "compute" on my amigas everyday or so... but then i don't earn money off my amigas, so in that case, no.
there is a certain element of "cos i can" but then on the otherhand, its amusing, interesting to learn how capable such a machine, with web browsers, APDF, flash players, blah blah blah, can actaully be in a modern world.
work is wintel/solaris-sparc, home is wintel/solaris-x86...
but i'm getting it together with learning C on amiga, so hey, you never know... :-D
at the moment it's a hobbie. but it shares my time with my other half, my DJ stuff, my car stuff, my PC gaming, socializing, and family stuff... so its a slow process i can't dedicate the time i could when i was younger, but i still enjoy it... even when the hard disk dissappears! ;-)
but i'm 100percent with everyone else, sentimentality, and this is my chance to own/use the hardware i drooled of owning when i were a lad :-D
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@ Amigakidd
I use my Pegasos and Efika for most personal use, but sometimes also for my job. But I am a pragmatic guy - I'd call myself stupid wouldn't I also use Win (and Linux). My job is unthinkable w/o Win/Linux (special hardware (drivers), Matlab and Adobe Creative suite). But for some things I use MorphOS or AmigaOS even at work (e.g. Mails, TV-Paint, Hollywood).
Some years ago I did my diploma thesis using AmigaOS and wrote a simulation program (with StormC 4), but that was not a too wise decision, since my Professor wasn't able to run my program, but had to rely entirely on my data delivery. Back than I was trying hard to use Amiga only. Since some years I am much more relaxed and pragmatic and use whatever suits me best (and yes, in quite many cases that is MorphOS). Privately I use MorphOS for more than three quarters of my computing stuff (since Sputnik became better the MorphOS usage share has even increased) and wouldn't miss much if I hadn't the additional Win laptop. But my every day job wouldn't work w/o windows/Linux.
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@amigakidd
At work, I earn my living using a pc to access various corporate applications spread across a gigantic corporate WAN network.
However, at home I use my OS4 machine everyday for web browsing and other hobby oriented activities. I have nothing against pc's (we have some at home as well), it's just more fun to use my amiga software.
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redfox
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I would love to say everyday use, but alas, only a hobby computer...
Once upon a time in amiga land, it was an everyday computer.
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taunusand wrote:
tonyyeb wrote:
@uncharted
@taunusand
Still no decent web browser though. And yes I am aware of the X-Surf. Too expensive for occasional use.
I agree, but some of us just spend way too much money on our hobbies :-D
IBrowse is good enough for me, but again I agree, an update would be very nice!
BUT Amiga prices have gone wild and you can sell old hardware for even more than it costed as new! :D What would you get if you'd invested that money to PC hardware at the time? :P
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pVC wrote:
BUT Amiga prices have gone wild and you can sell old hardware for even more than it costed as new! :D What would you get if you'd invested that money to PC hardware at the time? :P
I don't think so.
A600 was £299 new. Ebay: £30
A1200 was £399 new. Ebay: £70
A3000 was £2000+ new. Ebay: Not even close!
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alexh wrote:
Hobby. As an engineer, always use the best tool for the job. Amiga is great for retrogaming.
There is a category missing - professional.
As an engineer, always use the tool you prefer & enjoy for the job (which, in my definition, is the best tool for the job); life is not a rehearsal. I'm still able to use real hardware Amigas at work, and yes, I do get paid for it.
EDIT: I don't work with video, but I do personally know some people at major TV stations here around Washington DC USA that still sometimes use a Video Toaster. Seems that our local news often becomes national USA news, and for editing something really hot in from a local news crew, they say nothing even to this day beats a Toaster in putting something together quick and getting it on the air FIRST (for bragging rights).
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While I can (and sometimes do) use my A2000 comfortably as an Everyday Computing machine, it is mostly used as a hobby machine.
I also use it in my other hobbies, such as writing, digital photography & graphic design, and basic web design. When I finally find a working Toccata card, I'll be using it to record and distribute my podcast :-)
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Hobby, I like to try new hardware, maximize the potential of this what I have (system patches), make my Workbench "beautiful" :), try ScalOS, Magellan come back to Workbench again :).
I'm trying to use the Organizer, write something sometimes...
Around 15 years ago A600 was mine only one computer at home (earlier was Amstarad CPC 128!), I was doing every think I could... write, count, make small graphics/pictures (used for home works, school assignment... etc.)
Unfortunately I was to young :-D and I was working A600+TV :boohoo: :crazy: , graphic card was... yep, not in range... I bought A1200 but... "no money" - and I could by a Pentium 100Mhz/64Mb + Virge 4Mb, "music card"... etc. (used) in price of Amiga graphic card...
PC with it's IExplorer or Netscape... etc. After this 10 years I/we don't have nice web browser.
So I switched for PC :roll: . This change was easy since I started using a PowerPoint, and Excel not only for school, but for a work...
Today my A1200 become my dream machine... this what I wanted to have 10 years age. Now I know what does it mean Os3.9 running 1440x900 in 32-bit (thx. Elbox for Mediator!).
Yea, I know another "story" of old Amiga user... :roll:
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pVC wrote:
taunusand wrote:
tonyyeb wrote:
@uncharted
@taunusand
Still no decent web browser though. And yes I am aware of the X-Surf. Too expensive for occasional use.
I agree, but some of us just spend way too much money on our hobbies :-D
IBrowse is good enough for me, but again I agree, an update would be very nice!
BUT Amiga prices have gone wild and you can sell old hardware for even more than it costed as new! :D What would you get if you'd invested that money to PC hardware at the time? :P
I would not have got what I wanted :-)
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This thread come up about every other month, grin.
I still happily use mine for my main computer and sometimes for work. There are some compromises (some file formats, USB, camera card, etc), I can always jump to another platform as required.
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Oh, BTW...
Someone please tell me about this Flash player :-D
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Every day computing on my AmigaOne XE with the great AmigaOS 4. Soon 4.1 :-D
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Right now it's a hobby for me. I'd like to get my Towerized A4000 to the point where I could use it for more but I'd need a PPC and OS4 for that.
I think the real question in the long run is how many hobbyists are interested/willing to use one as their primary computer if hardware was available to run a new AmigaOS 4.X? How much initial market is there for a new Amiga with modern hardware running AmigaOS.
I for one would love to be using an Amiga as my primary computer again. I have very basic needs which have been discussed in other threads before.
Good modern webbrowser with plugins (Port Firefox)
Good Email client. (Thunderbird or any other)
Basic Word processor/spreadsheet system. (Port OpenOffice.)
Picture viewer/cataloger
MP3 player/cataloger
The rest I can wait on and I know if the market builds developers will come.
-Nyle
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A very unique hobby.
- Nice environment where I can rest from actual life issuess (of couse, after taking care of wife & kid).
- A great tech demonstrator for most of my colleagues considering Pentium as a 1st multimedia machine.
- An escape pod back to time when everything looked more simple and fun.
And finally, the one and the only reason why I've stuck in ICT biz. :lol:
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my A1200 projects.
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I use mine purely for work.
I have been an artist for 25 years and started doing computer art on an Amiga 1000. I was one of the first artists to use a computer to design clothing and clothing graphics. It gave my work a look like no other and resulted in an unbelievable career path for me.
My Amiga designs have appeared on clothing from the world's top sports fashion houses as well as in magazines, museums and the homes of the rich and famous.
I stopped using an Amiga around the mid 90's when I moved to the Mac.
But this year I wanted to go back to my old style of creating and the look it resulted in and amazingly there is nothing available that does the job like DPaint.
The power and in some cases, the restrictions, enable me to create in a unique way.
This year I purchased a variety of machines and after some playing around whittled them down to the 3000T I have now. I am also using E-UAE on my MacBook Pro. (still trying to get it sorted though).
I am experimenting with the amazing new Epson 72" inkjet printer using output from the miggy created at 640 x 480 resolution. It's really cool stuff.
I am also currently working on a new clothing line which I am going to launch early next year.
All designed on the miggy :-D
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Yeah, I'd have to agree, a hobby. It was my first computer (I had used Univac 1100 and various Vaxen but never actually owned a computer before. Your first computer is a lot like your first love, frozen in time always remembered with fondness.
I sit at the Amiga or UAE, it makes no difference to me, and play old games, play with old software and enjoy the heady days of the late '80s. It's been a dozen years or more since I could do real work on an Amiga, but that's just part of the charm. The Amiga is all play, nothing to put on the CV, nothing to work for one of those Muttly Awards (certifications) we all worship in IT, just a bit of fun!
Seriously, could I do real work on an Amiga? Nope, I'm not patient enough to deal with all the limitations and instability. I have a MacPro that runs circles around the Amiga, that has a full Bash command line and a host of video, audio and image editors on it. I can't figure out how to open the 12 Megapixel raw images on my Amiga and refuse to take the loss associated with JPEG compression. My Amiga can't do HD, can't mix my old (digitised) video with my modern video. In the end I bought Amiga to be cutting edge, and that's why I have my Mac Pro today.
Really life is the same, my first love was a beautiful 16 year old girl with the biggest brightest eyes you could image, who could keep my happy for hours on end, she's now middle aged with 4 kids, drives a people mover, smokes like a coal plant and weighs 20 stone....
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mauidj wrote:
I use mine purely for work.
Wow, another one for the Professional camp; how many more want to step up? :-)
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Hobby, but as ICT person, I consider it also as a source of inspiration. And a lot of fun/memories with gaming on it (http://www.amiga.org/images/subject/icon19.gif)
/me has a hard time growing up....
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persia wrote:
Yeah, I'd have to agree, a hobby. It was my first computer (I had used Univac 1100 and various Vaxen but never actually owned a computer before. Your first computer is a lot like your first love, frozen in time always remembered with fondness.
I sit at the Amiga or UAE, it makes no difference to me, and play old games, play with old software and enjoy the heady days of the late '80s. It's been a dozen years or more since I could do real work on an Amiga, but that's just part of the charm. The Amiga is all play, nothing to put on the CV, nothing to work for one of those Muttly Awards (certifications) we all worship in IT, just a bit of fun!
Seriously, could I do real work on an Amiga? Nope, I'm not patient enough to deal with all the limitations and instability. I have a MacPro that runs circles around the Amiga, that has a full Bash command line and a host of video, audio and image editors on it. I can't figure out how to open the 12 Megapixel raw images on my Amiga and refuse to take the loss associated with JPEG compression. My Amiga can't do HD, can't mix my old (digitised) video with my modern video. In the end I bought Amiga to be cutting edge, and that's why I have my Mac Pro today.
Really life is the same, my first love was a beautiful 16 year old girl with the biggest brightest eyes you could image, who could keep my happy for hours on end, she's now middle aged with 4 kids, drives a people mover, smokes like a coal plant and weighs 20 stone....
Yeah, I have to agree with this totally.
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I love it as a pure hobby. I work on monster machines all day (like my $7000 Voodoo laptop, building websites, doing 3 D animation and such). To me, the few hours a night working and learning the Amiga is just plain fun. Half the fun is hunting down parts, collecting the pieces and so forth.The fact I have a few hundred floppies to go through and figure out what they are, and if they work is half the fun.
I have a buddy who restores old cars, and he see really no difference in doing that and messing around with old computers.
If I had gotten right off the bat, a A4000 all souped up, I think I wouldn't have half the fun with it. The fact That I am starting with a base A2000 and working up, is the fun part. But hey, thats just me. :-D
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@quarkx
I agree :-)
Another hobby of mine is Ford Taunus, I know a lot of people having old classic Ford cars as theis hobby. We also collect parts, spend time maintaining and repairing our old cars and such.
It's the same, a hobby witch some people thinks are strange.
"Why don't you just buy a new car?" = "Why don't you just buy a new PC?"
Because we like our hobby, that's why :-D
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taunusand wrote:
@quarkx
I agree :-)
Another hobby of mine is Ford Taunus, I know a lot of people having old classic Ford cars as theis hobby. We also collect parts, spend time maintaining and repairing our old cars and such.
It's the same, a hobby witch some people thinks are strange.
"Why don't you just buy a new car?" = "Why don't you just buy a new PC?"
Because we like our hobby, that's why :-D
Ford TAUNUS? I will have to look that one up. They never had that particular model here in Canada! Taurus yes, but that was a low end economy model. My buddy is into restoring the old Buick's like the GSX and the Stage one cars. He spends most of his weekends in the Auto reckers's yard. I wish they had junk yards here for computer parts. Here we are not allowed to take anything form the dump and there are littrally walls of monitors and tower units lining the dump road. :boohoo:
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amigakidd wrote:
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How many of you use an Amiga for everyday computing (I mean earn a living) using one.
At work (Ford) I have an PC, of course.
But:
When I started working here back in 1998 it was usual in case someone needed an A0-drawing as an attachment in A4-format to call the CAD office. They plotted the needed .cgm-drawing on A0 format.
Then the person had to go to the CAD office, get the drawing and take it to the print office, where it was scaled down to A4-format.
Finally that person had to fetch the A4-drawing from the print office and give it to the "scan-man", who scanned it to make it digitally available.
This approach remionded me at the "stone age of computing".
At home on my classic miggy I had a tool called "MetaView" from Henk Jonas, that was able to convert the .cgm-drawings from our CAD-stations to e.g. GIF or JPEG.
I asked Ford IT team for a tool to convert .cgm-drawings to e.g. GIF on my PC. They told me that such a tool would not exist within the Ford world.
So I approached my manager and told him I intended to give a demonstration how to save a lot of time by modernising that attachment process. I asked him to allow me to install AmigaForever, OS (meanwhile OS 3.9) and MetaView.
I got the permission and gave the demonstration.
Management was convinced and I got the permission to leave the Amiga installation on my PC to convert the drawings, if necessary.
Meanwhile we have "VIS mockup" on our PC's for that purpose, but AmigaForever is still installed on my PC...
Ahhh - and I typed the application for my current job still on my trusty, old A500...
So far for the "earn a living"-part.
At home I use my A4000PPC on an everyday basis.
My WIntel box underneath my desk is remote-controlled (RDesktop) by my A4kPPC and only used in the rare cases where an app is missing on the Amiga or not meeting my needs sufficiantly.
amigakidd wrote:
Is owning an Amiga or emulating one just a hobby?
Not just a hobby - also serioulsly used...
amigakidd wrote:
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What makes it so different to owning a PC/Mac? Do we become special when we own an Amiga or a copy of Amiga Forever?
Hmmmm - I noticed that if you use a WIntel-box, many configurations are done by Windows without the user becoming aware of it.
From my perspective this is suboptimal, as I want to understand how COMPUTERS work - and not how WIntel-systems do it.
Often you don't get aware of things because Windows cares for it in its own way - and not the way it is done on other systems e.g. Linux or Amiga.
Quite often the WIntel-world even comes up with different synonyms than in "general computing".
amigakidd wrote:
Is it a cult following?
From my POV using Windows has more of an "cult following"...
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Andeda wrote:
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using it for a everyday use for example web and mail is way too painful
No idea why you think so - browsing with IBrowse works flawlessly on most of the pages I visit - and compared to InternetExplorer for me it has the advantage of "tabbed browsing".
And what exactly do you think does Outlook better than YAM?
I really cannot see what is causing you such pains...
:-?
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O.K. - I forgot - it works quite well for me on an 68060 @ 50 mHz - on an 020/030/040 system it might suck nowadays...
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Ilwrath wrote:
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The lack of CPU horsepower is noticeable, but it can be worked around.
Fully agreed...
Ilwrath wrote:
The lack of current software... That's not as easy to deal with. As mentioned, web-browsers, flash, reader, etc...
You just don't even think about them until all of a sudden you don't have them.
It may depend on what you intend to do.
Latest AWeb or IBrowse are quite O.K. for me, as most of the web sites I visit are displayed properly.
For me browsers are not so much of an issue.
Someone else already mentioned that even a basic flash reader is available.
PDF-readers are available as well - there are even applications that can create PDFs (e.g. latest FXscan)
Ilwrath wrote:
(Sure, you have AWeb and Ghostscript, and sometimes they even work for more than an hour or two before they drag the OS off into Guru Meditation oblivion...)
Overpatched system?
Ilwrath wrote:
But I can't see using an Amiga as a primary system, anymore. It's a fun machine for what it does, but what it doesn't do kills it from consideration for primary use.
For me it does most of what I want.
Of course it does it differently than a WIntel machine does...
I'm suspecting that what it doesn't do is due to the unflexibility of some users -
Ilwrath wrote:
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(It'd drag my old A4000 out behind the barn and beat it senseless..)
Fully agreed - more hp hardware-wise would be more than welcome...
Ilwrath wrote:
but again... The lack of software makes it not really usable as a primary system. :-(
Well, that might depend on when you jumped on the Amiga train. I joined in 1988/89 and have loads of software that isn't available anymore. Such an software-pool can help a lot if you want to use an Amiga on an everyday basis nowadays.
In the WIntel world you have big applications and you can do everything with them (well, most of the time).
In the Amigaworld I possibly have to use some more, smaller apps to get a task done, but nevertheless its possible most of the time - if one has enough knowledge about Amiga apps (and where to get them) and enough creativity to combine them in a reasonable manner for the task at hand.
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I still use my Amiga 1200 for my everyday job: it's the USB keyboard I connected to my PC with the Keyrah. :-P
Well, I have my personal thoughts about "what Amiga is" and, IMHO, it's just the spirit that led me embrace the AROS project before, and made me starting whis VmwAROS adventure today: a funny way to do computing.
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@quarkx
Ford Taunus are from Germany. In England they were sold as Cortina.
Compared to american cars it's very little, it has a nice little V6 engine with 90hp ;-)
It does not look as Ford Taurus, witch is a bit larger.
In Denmark it was one of the larger middle class cars back in the 1970/80'ies.
Pictures of me and my Taunus: Link (http://www.fordtaunus.dk/billeder/medlemsgalleri/rene/menuside.htm)
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THe sold the Taurus Ghia here back in the '90s. Didn't go over very well, I think maybe two years and that's it. Me I prefer Citroens, but they just haven't been the same since the take-over by Peugeot.
(http://www.peachstateposse.com/forum/images/smiles/SmileyBowing.gif)(http://upload.moldova.org/auto/Citroen/Citroen_logo.gif)
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taunusand wrote:
@quarkx
Ford Taunus are from Germany. In England they were sold as Cortina.
Compared to american cars it's very little, it has a nice little V6 engine with 90hp ;-)
It does not look as Ford Taurus, witch is a bit larger.
In Denmark it was one of the larger middle class cars back in the 1970/80'ies.
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Ford "Taunus" (Ford of Germany):
1939 Ford Taunus (nickname "Buckel" (= "hunchback")) comes into the market as advancement of the Ford "Eifel". The company name now is "Ford Werke A.G.".
1948 On 1rst of October the production of the new "Taunus" starts: The "Buckel" is revived.
1951 At the first post-war IAA (International Motor Show; Frankfurt, Germany) Ford presents the Ford Taunus de Luxe.
1952 The "Taunus 12 M", the car with the globe, comes into the market on January 8th.
1955 The first new developed post-war Ford engine (55 hp) is available for the "Taunus 15M".
1982 In June 1982 production of the "Taunus" ceases in Europe; it gets replaced by the Ford Sierra. Production continues in Argentina until 1984, where a coupé version remaines in the line-up right until the end (while in Germany the coupé was dropped after the 1975 facelift), and at Otosan in Turkey, where a restyled version of the last model continues in production until 1994.