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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: lionstorm on August 21, 2003, 11:06:04 AM

Title: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: lionstorm on August 21, 2003, 11:06:04 AM
Hi all,
look like the mount CD0 does not work anymore. I checked jumper master/slave, filesystem, unit and still no aminet cd or whatever cd I put in get recognized. BUT HDtoolbox and mounter do recognize it but the system (os3.9) does not want to show it.
So my question is : if I delete all CD-rom related filesystems in my L:, what would be the easiest and quickest way to get my CDrom back and recognized ?
Lio
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: Thomas on August 21, 2003, 03:08:22 PM

Why do you want to delete anything ?

Check the CD0 mountlist and post the error message that appears when you enter Mount CD0:.

If there is no error message, enter Dir cd0: and post the error message.

If there still is no error message or the message is "no disk in drive" enter DiskChange CD0:. Does it read the CD ?

If Dir CD0: works and the only problem you have is the missing icon on the workbench desktop, check that the def_cd0.info file in envarc: and env: is a proper icon file of type Disk (load it into IconEdit and check the Type menu).

Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: lionstorm on August 22, 2003, 09:46:25 AM
mount CD1: no error
dir CD1: "could not get information on CD1, volume (or drive) does not exist"
I played with master/slave settings, connect only one drive etc, playing with my startup-sequence etc
The funny thing is sometimes scsi.device is listed and sometimes not (but can not figure that out why). Even when it is listed and makeCD, mounter, findCD see the CDrom, a mount CD1: and dir CD1: would lead to the error message below.
In essence it is working... sometimes
Lio
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: zipper on August 22, 2003, 09:57:46 AM
Maybe you have messed your files; scsi.device must be from 3.9 to work with cd-drives I think. You can also try atapi.device from 3.9 or from idefix.
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: Dr_Righteous on August 22, 2003, 10:00:55 AM
I think I may have spotted your problem... You don't want to use scsi.device... You need to use an atapi device driver (like IDEfix97) to run the CDROM, as scsi.device is an IDE driver (hard disks only).

edit: Heh, Zipper beat me to it!
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: Thomas on August 22, 2003, 10:29:54 AM

Please check the CD1 mountlist again. If something is wrong with the device or file system the mount command should give an error. If it does not give an error this means you are not using CacheCDFS but CDFileSystem perhaps.

And please decide whether it is CD0 or CD1. Perhaps this is your problem: sometimes you use this and sometimes that.

Also, if scsi.device disappears from programs like MakeCD, probably something with the ROM-Update goes wrong. Have you installed the Boingbags ?

Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: lionstorm on August 26, 2003, 09:17:08 AM
no problem with CD0 and CD1, was just to explain the problem since the CD-rom is CD1.
The drive does not use atapi.device. When the scsi.device was  existing, I just re install idefix97 and now it is working fine again.
Thanks for the help.
Lio
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: Dr_Righteous on August 26, 2003, 09:44:06 AM
S'what we're here for!  :-D
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: tonyw on August 26, 2003, 03:07:41 PM
Well, this is news to me. I've been trying over the last few days to get an IDE CD-ROM to work on the 4000, without success - it just isn't recognised.

Now where the hell can I get this "atapi.device"? There's no such thing on 3.9 or aminet.I've found IDEfix on aminet, but no atapi.device.

tony
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: Framiga on August 26, 2003, 04:29:57 PM
@tony

Download IdeFix97 here:

ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/disk/misc/IDEfix97.lha

atapi.device, is in Ide-Fix:Devs/ drawer.

Ciao
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: DanDude on August 26, 2003, 04:36:01 PM
Oh, god, I have one of those in my 4000T.  A VERY big pain to figure out why it locks up or don't recognize it.  EIDE CDROM drives don't work very well with IDEFix97 (unless there's a fix out there that I'm not aware of).  I was lucky enough to pinpoint out and reconfig prefs when I disconnected the cable.
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: Varthall on August 26, 2003, 04:39:32 PM
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tonyw wrote:
Well, this is news to me. I've been trying over the last few days to get an IDE CD-ROM to work on the 4000, without success - it just isn't recognised.

Now where the hell can I get this "atapi.device"? There's no such thing on 3.9 or aminet.I've found IDEfix on aminet, but no atapi.device.

tony

So does that mean that Aos 3.9 DOESN'T have a device for atapi drives, after all these years??  :-o

If this is true, you should try installing idefix from aminet. At first the atapi.device has been released on its own, then later it has grown into a full package for cdroms and hard drives management (idefix), which includes the atapi.device.

Varthall
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: tonyw on August 27, 2003, 12:59:04 AM
10x, guys.

tony
Title: Re: IDE CDROM lost ?
Post by: Thomas on August 27, 2003, 12:34:54 PM