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Title: Hollywood Software
Post by: trekiej on July 31, 2008, 06:15:06 PM
Can anyone give me a comparison of Hollywood script to another language? (Basic,Arexx,etc)
Thanks.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: szimbi on July 31, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
Hollywood has a high level language which is similar to Basic. Similar in simplicity but much powerful than any basic I have seen.
The source can be very readable thanks to the long instruction names.
You can feel home in minutes if you ever touched any basics.

Feel free the ask any more details!

Bye!

Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: Spektro on July 31, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
Hollywood is using Lua as its script language. (Please see http://www.lua.org/ for more information on Lua.)

Actually, there are some minor differences between Lua and Hollywood scripts but the differences are really small.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: wurzel on July 31, 2008, 09:02:59 PM
Actually, Hollywood is SO much more than just a script!

With Hollywood Designer, it's more like PowerPoint, or Scala from the Amiga days.

It's easy to prgram, either as a script or with a GUI.

Well worth the investment, IMHO  :-)
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: hardlink on July 31, 2008, 09:24:21 PM
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wurzel wrote:
Actually, Hollywood is SO much more than just a script!

With Hollywood Designer, it's more like PowerPoint, or Scala from the Amiga days.


From the Amiga days?? My Amiga days are now! What the #@!& is PowerPoint? I have MediaPoint from Activa, is that an upgrade?

Lua seems to be a not-invented-here answer to Rexx; wonder why Hollywood couldn't have used Arexx.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: trekiej on July 31, 2008, 10:37:43 PM
Thanks for all the replies. I asked about Hollywood in the past and got good replies.

I want to do something for the Amiga and this is probably the best way for me to go, programming wise, for now.

When Natami becomes available, this will be something I can do until I get better at other languages.


Have a great day.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 11:00:31 PM
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What the #@!& is PowerPoint?


The Diet Coke of presentation software.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 11:05:10 PM
With the latest version of Hollywood you can compile your programs to run on Windows and Mac OSX.

Hollywood apps probably run on more different systems than Amiga Anywhere.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: trekiej on August 01, 2008, 03:13:06 AM
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Rob wrote:
With the latest version of Hollywood you can compile your programs to run on Windows and Mac OSX.

Hollywood apps probably run on more different systems than Amiga Anywhere.


That is one I do like about it.
I think its 3D is limited.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: Allanon on August 01, 2008, 08:42:11 AM
Don't forget the wonderful event handling Hollywood has.
You can bind any event to a custom function to build event driven applications: I love this feature.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: Atheist on August 01, 2008, 11:28:36 AM
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trekiej wrote:
Can anyone give me a comparison of Hollywood script to another language? (Basic,Arexx,etc)
Thanks.

Hi trekiej.

AMOS Professional rulez!

Easiest language I have EVER used!

I wasn't able to program in BlitzBasic, TrueBasic, Pascal, nor C. AmigaBasic by microuseless was MORE than useless. It ran slower as my program got bigger. I've looked at HollyWood code, it's not clear and easy as AMOS. AMOS is probably the easiest language in the world!

I mean, I was using binary and/or if statements, piece of cake.

I could use 90% of the regular commands because it generally just makes sense, but I can't get the hang of AMAL. :-(

It's too bad that it's not 100% AOS system friendly as in it doesn't interface well, but I've rarely had it crash. AMOS Pro is compilable.

It will "rock and rule" on NatAmi60!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: leirbag28 on August 01, 2008, 01:19:45 PM
@hardlink

Do yourself a Favor as well as everyone here. Get SCALA MM300 or MM400 or InfoChannel 500.

These are the best Multimedia apps for the Amiga............and so far able to do what Powerpoint can do these days and More quickly.  I have MediaPoint........and it does some nice things very smoothly, some that SCALA cant do, but the way to create scripts is too awkward even though I like how the program looks when you first open it. But SCALA has the Best Interface in the world for any Multimedia app.


@Rob
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    What the #@!& is PowerPoint?
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The Diet Coke of presentation software.


By that I hope you mean the most popular, cuz it certainly aint the best.

Scala InfoChannel Designer For Windows is the Cream of the Crop.

Personally I dislike PowerPoint very Much....especailly the interface.

Even Keynote From Apple is much more beautiful though not yet a complete package.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: Hans_ on August 01, 2008, 01:56:27 PM
What makes Hollywood great is not so much its scripting language, but the built in functionality. It really does make multimedia effects easy to do. Plus, you can compile the script into binaries that run on Amiga OS4, Amiga OS3, MorphOS, AROS, Windows, and Mac OS X. I can't think of any other language/run-time library that can do this.

Hans
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: trekiej on August 01, 2008, 03:06:54 PM
Other languages that seem similar to Hollywood(lua) are python and pascal. I found another languge called Euphoria at a site called rapideuphoria. It is a versatile language.

If Amos is Basic, I do not have a problem with it. I do not even know if it is maintained, Matathias maybe?
I have to go back to that Yahoo group and look it up again.

I have used DarkBasic for pc and it has built in primitives such as cube, sphere, etc. How does Amos compare.
I have used a lot C64 basic and got into machine language back in a day. I do miss the C64 way of things.
Maybe Natami could have a compiler and Interpreter built in or just be included. On the other hand the StormC with its collaboration capabilities be a plus.

Too be frank :-D , I am studying Blender3D and python for a possible career. Python is used by Blender as a scripting language.

I hope to do something for the Amiga community, slowly but surely.
 :-)
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: hardlink on August 01, 2008, 06:47:45 PM
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leirbag28 wrote:
Do yourself a Favor as well as everyone here. Get SCALA MM300 or MM400 or InfoChannel 500.


Oh, I know! I purchased both MM300 and the MM400 upgrade. I know someone who worked for SCALA when they used to be in Reston, VA, who promised me IF 500 as soon as he finds it in his basement  :-D

BTW, the developers of MediaPoint were upstanding enough to release the source code when they quit developing it.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: SamuraiCrow on August 02, 2008, 12:11:09 AM
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trekiej wrote:
If Amos is Basic, I do not have a problem with it. I do not even know if it is maintained, Matathias maybe?
I have to go back to that Yahoo group and look it up again.

I have used DarkBasic for pc and it has built in primitives such as cube, sphere, etc. How does Amos compare.
I have used a lot C64 basic and got into machine language back in a day. I do miss the C64 way of things.
Maybe Natami could have a compiler and Interpreter built in or just be included. On the other hand the StormC with its collaboration capabilities be a plus.


If you get Storm C, make sure you get version 4.  Everything earlier was full of bugs.

AmosPro supports extensions written in 68k Assembly language so, if you don't mind sticking with hardware-banging classic Amiga code, head on over to the Amos Factory website (http://amos.pspuae.com/) and sign up.  Once you sign up you get full access to the download archives including the .adf files of original AmosPro install disks.

About Mattathias, it is months away and will use LLVM as its optimizer and code generator engine.  Since LLVM has no 68k code generator, you'll be stuck on the mainstream operating systems and the next-gen Amigas.  Also, the Amos compatibility is just a plug-in.  Someday we hope to make plug-ins of other programming languages such as DarkBasic (for a reasonable fee, of course  ;-) ).
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: trekiej on August 02, 2008, 06:01:56 PM
Thanks all.
Maybe we can have a code competition someday.
Also, collaborating on an Amiga RPG would be cool.

to all: Have a great weekend.
Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: Lonewolf10 on August 10, 2008, 02:57:44 AM
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AmosPro supports extensions written in 68k Assembly language so, if you don't mind sticking with hardware-banging classic Amiga code, head on over to the Amos Factory website and sign up. Once you sign up you get full access to the download archives including the .adf files of original AmosPro install disks.


Yeah, AMOS rocks.

I am currently working on an "Extension Creation Guide" as there are things that Francois Lionet (creator of AMOS and STOS) didn't comment on in his guide (either in full or in part).
If I can pick up assembly code (I am an experienced BASIC programmer since the early 90's) in a few weeks (with the help of a few good books - an ASM guide and the Amiga RKRM's), then so can anyone else!


Regards,
Lonewolf10

Title: Re: Hollywood Software
Post by: trekiej on August 10, 2008, 03:22:31 AM
It has been said that Hollywood is 64 bit. How so?
Some one is making a GUI with Hollywood on an Aros site.
It looks good.

I will look into Amos Pro. Its Assembly lang. capabilities is a big plus.

Good day.