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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: XDelusion on August 18, 2003, 09:18:34 PM

Title: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: XDelusion on August 18, 2003, 09:18:34 PM
I picked up an old Mac Performa 6200 CD recently for some pocket change. Anyhow I noticed that it actually uses IDE hard drives, so I was wondering how large of a hard drive you could stick in one of these? It has a 1GB right now.
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: J on August 18, 2003, 09:40:54 PM
You should be able to put at least an 8gb hdd in it. If I remember correctly, it will recognize bigger capacity drives tho.
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: XDelusion on August 19, 2003, 05:49:10 AM
Well I've got a 6Gb HD in now, and it is working great. I should have made a tutorial with a camera, but dint' think of it. That thing is a puzzle to open.
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: olegil on August 19, 2003, 08:24:11 AM
Heh, amen.

I had two machines, one which had a broken powersupply but ha dTV input  (6200, 75MHz 603 machine) and one that was ok (a 630, 33MHz 68040 machine) . I built a new powersupply, and decided to put it in the 630 (ended up with a lot of case-modding... not too pretty). So I had to swap motherboards and harddrives. Mobo is dead easy, harddrive takes about an hour :-)
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: XDelusion on August 20, 2003, 04:31:57 AM
Ya, I don't think Apple wanted there users updating there hard drives. :)
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: danamania on August 20, 2003, 05:24:34 AM
The way a 6200 -should- come apart for a HD change is to just unclip the front bezel (with the clips under the front edge) and then unplug the HD data & power cables, then the HD slides out

Usually with all the fiddling that's happened in near 10 years of the machine's life it ends up a bit harder than that :)
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: huronking on August 20, 2003, 05:51:43 AM
www.lowendmac.com is a good place to find old mac info.
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: Wolfe on August 20, 2003, 05:59:58 AM
Swapping the HD on a 630/640//6200/6300 series is a snap - just don't think PC.  Same with the floppy & CD.  Bam ! In and out.   :-D
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: olegil on August 20, 2003, 09:04:41 AM
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I don't think it's a snap just like that...
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: J on August 20, 2003, 10:39:08 AM
Wow, I get to correct olegil  :-D

It *should* be a snap

1. Front Bezel Off (remove with a large flat screwdriver)
2. HDD slides out on plastic tray. (HDD may need 4 screws unscrewing)
3. Unplug IDE/Power and plug in new hdd.

The hardest thing is normally getting the power plug out as it's wedged in so tight!

Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: XDelusion on August 22, 2003, 05:30:17 AM
On some Macs it is a breeze, but this Performa was a pain in the arse! Changing the Drive was easy, but...


...figuring out how to take the Mac apart to get to that point was tricky. On my old Mac, you simply lifted the top of the case and you were had instant acess to all the internal hardware, on this one you had to solve the mighty case puzzle without breaking any plastic prongs and what not, but once you know how to do it, it is easy to do again, but the 1st time is most certainly a dog in heat. :)
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: XDelusion on August 22, 2003, 07:47:27 AM
Ok, new troubles. Ok I can dial up to the net, but Netscrape and IE refuse to open any web pages, and claim there is a lack of DNS. So I figure my Modem could be bad and would like to try the external USR modem I use on my PC, but as fate would have it, I do not have a cable to connect a 25 pin PC serial cable to that funky mac modem port.
 
 Anyone know where to find these?

 I also tried to connect the modem into the printer port as I heard the modem port on my model mac is flakey, and was advised to do this, but when I try that route, the Mac says that the printer port is already in use (sounds like winblows) even though it is not.

 Finally, where can I find internal Network cards for these old 6200 Performas?

Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: Dr_Righteous on August 22, 2003, 09:48:06 AM
CompUSA or Office[xxx] should have a Mac DIN-to-25 pin cable... Also, make sure to get a DNS address from your ISP and enter it in manually. MacTCP doesn't like dynamic DNS much.

Internal NICs for older Macs might be a pain to find... Much easier to find a SCSI based network adapter for it (no, I'm not kidding, they really do make these).
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: danamania on August 22, 2003, 11:18:06 AM
The network cards for those are cheap & plentiful on ebay. Take a peek for LC PDS Ethernet cards. They come in all flavours - RJ45, AUI, AAUI and BNC connectors. It's not too hard to find an RJ45 one.

They should be about $5 to $10US

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=lc+pds+ethernet

is a horrible looking url that should take you to ebay search results =).

You can also use Comm Slot I cards in a 6200. They're a bit rarer, but work just as well.
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: XDelusion on August 22, 2003, 06:55:18 PM
Just after I got done asking, I found both of what I needed on Ebay. For some reason I was not pulling up results before. Must have been a typo.

 Thankx for all the help, I'll call up my crappy ISP today and check into the DNS.

 Once again Dana I have to say you are VERY hot. :)
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: McNorris on August 22, 2003, 09:02:10 PM
Yes Dana IS very HOT!!! Ouch!

Oh yeah, the mac thang.

I have a Powermac 5400/120, it's IDE and I put a Western Digital 20GB/7200RPM/2MB cache in it and it's just fine.

As a matter of fact it even starts up and works faster than it did the 1 GB drive

Just buy a WD and fly. I think it has more to do with the OS. With OS9 (and apples older IDE) I  have heard you can't surpass one hundred thirty somethin' GB. But then again I have heard 160 work fine.

Try the upgrade "tab" at...

OWC  (http://www.macsales.com)

I have bought from these guys they're on the money, fast, and have the right price.

Even if you don't buy from they you can get precise info on the product sold and buy it local, but like I said my experience with them has been great.
Title: Re: Old Mac Hardware upgrading
Post by: XDelusion on August 23, 2003, 02:47:31 AM
Thankx again, I'll book mark them and look into them this week end.