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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Amiduffer on June 23, 2008, 03:59:33 AM
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Recently, I got a copy of DP4 for next to nothing, after a long time of never using it, have re-discovered the joys of Move and having a fun time with all the great animation features. I've even made some interesting optical illusion animations. I might even use it to make the intros for my YouTube videos after I convert the Anim5 to GIF. Gotta say, Dan Silva was a programing genius.
Is there anything equivalent on the PC side as far as ease of use?
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Paint Shop Pro is what you're looking for on the PC side.
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If you like DPaintIV so much (and who doesn't), check out Brilliance 2.0 as its worthy successor.
I saw Jim Sachs at an Amiga User Group meeting in Riverside, CA before the Commodore bankruptcy demonstrating it just before the official release and in his hands it was truly something amazing! In my hands, not so much amazing, but still a great piece of work.
Also, if you can get your hands on a DCTV and/or OpalVision card, the paint programs that came with those two hardware devices were top notch as well.
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I do have PSP. I'm still trying to get the hang of it though. Its certainly got nice features which I use, but not having an integrated animation feature is a pain. Most of what I've used on YouTube has been from PSP's animation program, but mostly for the slide show aspect for titles. Might as well go for the retro-look, since my videos are of the odd-ball quality.
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amigadave wrote:
If you like DPaintIV so much (and who doesn't), check out Brilliance 2.0 as its worthy successor.
Also, if you can get your hands on a DCTV and/or OpalVision card, the paint programs that came with those two hardware devices were top notch as well.
amigadave wrote:
If you like DPaintIV so much (and who doesn't), check out Brilliance 2.0 as its worthy successor.
Also, if you can get your hands on a DCTV and/or OpalVision card, the paint programs that came with those two hardware devices were top notch as well.
Hi AD. I have Brilliance, although I lost the little dongle that came with it, so I can't use it. Personal Paint would be cool if it only had the perspective feature.
I've been mulling over getting a DCTV. I've got some animation ideas that will probably require one in the future. Think "Low Res Theatre!", classic movie scenes done in 32 color low res!
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amigadave wrote:
I saw Jim Sachs at an Amiga User Group meeting in Riverside, CA before the Commodore bankruptcy demonstrating it just before the official release and in his hands it was truly something amazing! In my hands, not so much amazing, but still a great piece of work.
:laughing: :laughing:
Hey amigadave!
Looky here! (http://www.randelshofer.ch/animations/anims/electronic_arts/TheTour.animVE.html)
I just happened to post that URL in this other thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35880) before I saw this post of yours.
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Deluxe Paint Rocks! The only thing even compares to it on the PC side is the PC version of Deluxe Paint which isn't as fully devleloped as the Amiga version and only works reliably in MS-DOS. This is the one Amiga application I just keep coming back to, it has really unique geometric drawing functions and I use it to design Mandalas these days. Brillance is good but Deluxe Paint is just the definitive Amiga graphics application: It was there from the beginning and evolved with the Amiga. It shows the the graphics and animation capabilities of the Amiga in one package better than any other Amiga graphics program whether it is an OCS A1000 or an AGA A4000/A1200. And Deluxe PaintV is even better than Deluxe PaintIV and with Cybergrafix, will work in VGA, SVGA, and XGA modes and will even load 24 bit images--very slow, yes, and not documented, but it will do it.
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Mandalas?
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Yeah, Mandalas, with the Symmetry tool. This (http://daviddbaca.com/Images/PeyoteMask2.jpg) one I did a few years ago. I drew it with Deluxe Paint in WinUae and then processed it with a couple of Photoshop filters. I didn't think of it as a mandala at the time but these days, designing mandalas is the conscious intent.
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@Ami_GFX,
I do have DPaintV but have not used it yet. Good to know about its undocumented capabilities. Thanks.
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the closest thing is cosmigo's ProMotion. PSP does not really compare. ProMotion is the bomb.
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Just a shame the source code for DP was lost.
Maybe someone has a contact for Dan Silva.
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Atheist wrote:
amigadave wrote:
I saw Jim Sachs at an Amiga User Group meeting in Riverside, CA before the Commodore bankruptcy demonstrating it just before the official release and in his hands it was truly something amazing! In my hands, not so much amazing, but still a great piece of work.
:laughing: :laughing:
Hey amigadave!
Looky here! (http://www.randelshofer.ch/animations/anims/electronic_arts/TheTour.animVE.html)
I just happened to post that URL in this other thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35880) before I saw this post of yours.
I don't see the connection to Jim Sachs showing off the features of Brilliance to a small user group in Riverside, CA right before it's release, or my lack of skill with any paint program, but thanks anyway for that link to the DPaint demo clip. :-D
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Amiduffer wrote:
Is there anything equivalent on the PC side as far as ease of use?
Deluxe Paint with WinUAE? Emulation is pretty good nowadays, so why not utilize it for real too :) I know people who do their Windows filemanagement with DOpus Magellan and WinUAE :)
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I should really pick up "UberPaint" (Deluxe Paint clone) again and finish it up.
http://umlautllama.com/projects/4p/
http://umlautllama.com/project.php?ShortName=4P
I never finished the Menus and the file saving aspects. I got stuck in this repeating loop, getting stuck between making it extremely portable (everything in one window, driven by libSDL) or having a better user experience (set up with OS-driven menus, windows, etc, but not as portable)
Every few months I pick it back up and poke at it with a pointy stick for a few days or so.
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yorgle wrote:
I should really pick up "UberPaint" (Deluxe Paint clone) again and finish it up.
I'm sure you could find a few alpha/beta testers for the Amiga version around here!
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hardlink wrote:
I'm sure you could find a few alpha/beta testers for the Amiga version around here!
Fair enough.
I don't have an Amiga development environment set up just yet. I know that the SDL version is compilable and runs under AROS. It's been about 12 years since I touched a C compiler on my Amiga (A1000 + SAS C). To be honest, I wouldn't really know where to begin these days, but I'm totally willing to do it.
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yorgle wrote:
hardlink wrote:
I'm sure you could find a few alpha/beta testers for the Amiga version around here!
Fair enough.
I don't have an Amiga development environment set up just yet. I know that the SDL version is compilable and runs under AROS. It's been about 12 years since I touched a C compiler on my Amiga (A1000 + SAS C). To be honest, I wouldn't really know where to begin these days, but I'm totally willing to do it.
Why not work on the AROS version... then let others backport it to the Amiga? :-)
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Because I currently have no way of working with AROS. I have a PC, but it's not in a usable location. I use Macs primarily right now, and the last time I checked, the latest AROS didn't work either on PPC hardware directly, or on top of OS X. Either of which I'd be fine with.
I'll just develop against libSDL, and let others port it to other platforms. (I'm attempting to get the latest E-UAE running with diskfolders on my 10.3 machine, with no success right now...)
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yorgle wrote:
Because I currently have no way of working with AROS. I have a PC, but it's not in a usable location. I use Macs primarily right now, and the last time I checked, the latest AROS didn't work either on PPC hardware directly, or on top of OS X. Either of which I'd be fine with.
I'll just develop against libSDL, and let others port it to other platforms. (I'm attempting to get the latest E-UAE running with diskfolders on my 10.3 machine, with no success right now...)
You need to sign up the the AROS dev-list... hint hint :-)
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bloodline wrote:
You need to sign up the the AROS dev-list... hint hint :-)
I attempted to do that a while ago, with no results at all. I will try again.
Thanks! :)
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Don't worry, an SDL version will keep bloodline happy... he has an SDL fetish ;-)
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moto
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motorollin wrote:
Don't worry, an SDL version will keep bloodline happy... he has an SDL fetish ;-)
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moto
Among many... :-D
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I can imagine... libSDL all trussed up in bondage gear...
Oh God, we've done it again - sorry OP!
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moto
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motorollin wrote:
I can imagine... libSDL all trussed up in bondage gear...
Hey, you're the one imagining libSDL all trussed up in leather not m... no, ok I'm there now.. :lol:
Oh God, we've done it again - sorry OP!
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moto
You do realise we are violating the TOS.... :-(
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bloodline wrote:
Hey, you're the one imagining libSDL all trussed up in leather not m... no, ok I'm there now.. :lol:
Ok, I'll give you a minute... Actually, I bet libSDL draped in a sock would do it for you even better!
bloodline wrote:
You do realise we are violating the TOS.... :-(
Yep - we're renegades!
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yorgle wrote:
bloodline wrote:
You need to sign up the the AROS dev-list... hint hint :-)
I attempted to do that a while ago, with no results at all. I will try again.
Thanks! :)
I didn't mean to be so cryptic, but you will be able to find out on there about OSX Hosted and PPC, both native and Linux hosted :-)
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Don't worry, an SDL version will keep bloodline happy... he has an SDL fetish ;-)
Sexy Devilish Ladies? Who doesn't have a fetish for that? :D
Ed.
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No, it stands for Socks Dressed in Lingerie.
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BTW,
EDanaII wrote:
Sexy Devilish Ladies? Who doesn't have a fetish for that?
*raises hand*
;-)
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moto
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yakumo9275 wrote:
the closest thing is cosmigo's ProMotion. PSP does not really compare. ProMotion is the bomb.
Ah, that looks like the trick. Not too bad a price either. They even compare it to DPaint!
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motorollin wrote:
No, it stands for Socks Dressed in Lingerie.
Why would I dress my footware in sexy lingerie, Captain?
I vote for Severely Divine Legs! :-D
OK! OK! I'm leaving... :-)
Ed.
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EDanaII wrote:
motorollin wrote:
No, it stands for Socks Dressed in Lingerie.
Why would I dress my footware in sexy lingerie, Captain?
I vote for Severely Divine Legs! :-D
OK! OK! I'm leaving... :-)
Ed.
Sexually Deviant Language
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yakumo9275 wrote:
the closest thing is cosmigo's ProMotion. PSP does not really compare. ProMotion is the bomb.
Yea! ProMotion is a labor of love...
And I just noticed a new upgrade to Ver. 6!
For those of you who are DPaint "melancholics," you got to check that out!
The ProMotion 6 (http://www.cosmigo.com/promotion/index.php?Home+%28Pro+Motion%29) package makes me wish I had more time to play with it. Back when I had my A3000, Dpaint IV was my main source for hours of "animadiction" to Late-night renderings. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YQh2tkx4a3w)