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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: trilobyte on June 13, 2008, 03:07:32 PM
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Hi everybody,
Yellow Dog Linux has a new PowerPC (G5-esque) workstation which they say is totally open. Serial attached SCSI, dual ethernet, quad-core processor, and up to 32GB RAM. Maybe somebody should donate one of these to Hyperion :-D
info here:
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/powerstation/intro.shtml
Looks like a nice case too... reminds me of some recent IBM PC towers.
cheers,
tbyte
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Actually quite nice setup. Dunno about Hyeprion and OS4 though, with the legal issues it seems more likely that one would be able to draw blood from a stone or create gold out of dog poop.
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YDL sucks though imo..
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Wow! That is one hideous MOFO, very expensive and it's only a quad core PPC...
I'd get a MacPro... :-)
-Edit- 850Watt PSU!!!!! I'd never be able to afford the electricity bill!!!! :-o
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MacPro has a 1KW PSU! :roll: (Try taking the Apple blinders off once in a while.)
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bloodline wrote:
Wow! That is one hideous MOFO, very expensive and it's only a quad core PPC...
I'd get a MacPro... :-)
-Edit- 850Watt PSU!!!!! I'd never be able to afford the electricity bill!!!! :-o
"according to Apple, the MacPro pulls about 980 watts (versus 1000 for the Quad G5) total, most of it dedicated to the PCI Express slots."
So you'd rather get an intel-based system which pulls in more than the PPC one linked above. And you also didn't note that the system actually draws less power than Apple's old Powermac G5.
Typical use seems to be 150W to 200W for the old G5 Powermac. Remember, just because a PSU can handle a max load that high doesn't mean it is always pulling that much power.
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BlackMonk wrote:
bloodline wrote:
Wow! That is one hideous MOFO, very expensive and it's only a quad core PPC...
I'd get a MacPro... :-)
-Edit- 850Watt PSU!!!!! I'd never be able to afford the electricity bill!!!! :-o
"according to Apple, the MacPro pulls about 980 watts (versus 1000 for the Quad G5) total, most of it dedicated to the PCI Express slots."
So you'd rather get an intel-based system which pulls in more than the PPC one linked above. And you also didn't note that the system actually draws less power than Apple's old Powermac G5.
Yes I would, the MacPro is 8 cores and can run more software (Mac, Windows and Linux), it's much prettier... and I never said I could afford to run a MacPro either :-P
Typical use seems to be 150W to 200W for the old G5 Powermac. Remember, just because a PSU can handle a max load that high doesn't mean it is always pulling that much power.
Since my main machine is my MacBook Pro I typically run at around 60 Watts (85 if I'm charging the battery too)... Now that's affordable :-)
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And nothing in this thread has a darn thing to do with amiga.
not that I care, just saying....
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Actually, I thought the only reason anyone linked to that was the traditional, "OS 4 would run great on this! Someone should port it!" sentiment. But if we're just goin' by hardware we'd rather have, I just got a cheap quad-core system for under $500. If it only ran OS X, it'd be perfect!
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BlackMonk wrote:
But if we're just goin' by hardware we'd rather have, I just got a cheap quad-core system for under $500. If it only ran OS X, it'd be perfect!
Why won't it? Don't let the Apple legal department stop you. :lol:
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Am i the only one that sees the similarities between this system and IBM's servers and desktops?
(http://images.tigerdirect.ca/skuimages/large/IBM-System-x3200-I70-4362ECU-CA.jpg)(http://dropstore.cashiteasy.biz/adspics/DSC04733.JPG)
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Hardware capable of running OS4 has been around for years. But just like this machine, they won't ever do it unless they get a license or someone hacks the OS.
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moto
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@ SteveSMS
No, you're not; I cited that similarity in my original post :roll: :-D
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@motorollin
Hardware being available, and hardware being available that's *new* and still supported by the manufacturer with some sort of warranty are two different things. I'm under the impression that there is no hardware that is *new* and currently under manufacture which can run OS 4. Maybe I'm wrong...
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These cpus are more exotic.
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ibm/qs22.shtml (http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ibm/qs22.shtml)
$1895 (1200€) wouldn't be much expensive if AmigaOS/MorphOS really ran on it. Compare it to uA1/A1 prices (just motherboards). It's a full computer... unfortunately it doesn't run OS4/MOS so it's totally useless and offtopic for Amiga users.
Mac Pro costs 2450€ in Spain. That's almost twice. Yeah, it's twice the number of cores, but twice the price.
On AmigaOS multiple cores are useless.
For AmigaOS I could live with a single core anyway. Just bloated OSes like OSX require multiple cores to multitask smoothly.
Mac users can visit macworld or something like that to brag about their wonderful 365375-core cpus unless they are planning to port AROS/OS4/MOS to their wonderful machines.
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Crumb wrote:
$1895 (1200€) wouldn't be much expensive if AmigaOS/MorphOS really ran on it.
Paying that price only to use a fraction of the hardware *is* kind of expensive IMHO. A waste! As would it be to spend the time and money to make "our" OS's running on it in the first place, and that's why this will never happen. Mac Mini is a much better choice then, if you want to have a go on "outsider" hardware...
Compare it to uA1/A1 prices (just otherboards).
Why? A1 prices where absolutely ridiculous, even back then (especially so if you look at what you actually got)!
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Crom00 wrote:
Actually quite nice setup. Dunno about Hyeprion and OS4 though, with the legal issues it seems more likely that one would be able to draw blood from a stone or create gold out of dog poop.
Nothing's stopping them from reselling it pre-configured with a fully functional AROS port...
Infact, nothing is stopping them from porting their games to AROS(PPC) either...and selling that...
That seems to be a better way to continue a revenue stream...
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Crumb wrote:
On AmigaOS multiple cores are useless.
For AmigaOS I could live with a single core anyway. Just bloated OSes like OSX require multiple cores to multitask smoothly.
Hopes are on the MPC8610 - Low wattage single core G4 with surprising high performance and reasonable price tag.
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motorollin wrote:
...or someone hacks the OS.
Ain't nobody doing that?
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trilobyte wrote:
I'm under the impression that there is no hardware that is *new* and currently under manufacture which can run OS 4. Maybe I'm wrong...
There isn't. And this machine doesn't change that.
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moto
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SteveSMS wrote:
Am i the only one that sees the similarities between this system and IBM's servers and desktops?
Have a look at IBMs Power machines aswell:
IBM Power Express (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/p/hardware/entry/index.html)