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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: LP on August 16, 2003, 01:53:24 PM
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I just wondered if any of you know if I can just buy any given PCMCIA Ethernet card for my A1200, what about drivers and software?
Should it be Type1 or Type2?
Any recomendations are welcome...
I'm intending to use it as a part of a LAN/Internet network...
Any help apreciated!
Cheers :pint:
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You need to buy a card that is NE2000 compatible, and it has to be in the supported list in the "cnet.device" driver package. That is available on Aminet. Go to the web page for your favorite Aminet site and enter "cnetdevice" into the search box (without the quotes, of course).
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There are two types that work: The first (edit) I've just been beaten to mentioning and the 3COM model #3C589 ones (eg. Etherlink III). I have a 3Com one which works perfectly well with the 3c589 driver available on Aminet.
Chris
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Yeh, using an etherlink 3 and 3com device here too, it works a treat.
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One of these (http://www.3com.com/prod/en_UK_EMEA/detail.jsp?tab=features&sku=3CCE589ET) appear to be the current compatible 3Com ones although I'm sure you can get cheaper cards elsewhere (or second hand).
I've just realised the second part of the question was never answered. You also need a TCP/IP stack such as Miami, it is fairly simple to set Miami up to use an Ethernet card.
Chris
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This site has some info on cards you can use link here http://www.g-mb.de/pcmcia_e.html (http://www.g-mb.de/pcmcia_e.html)
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It`s a shame Holger no longer supports or handles registration for Miami, so the only legit way to get a TCP stack is to either buy a second hand copy of Miami, or get the AmigaOS3.9 update ( I never can remember if Genesis was in 3.5 or not !)..or track down someone still selling the NetConnect CD.
BTW, whatever happened to all that stuff about the legality of Genesis a couple of years back..something todo with someone selling rights they didn`t have to H&P
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Cnet.device with an old Edimax EP-4000 here,
works well.
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So that raises a good quesiton. Wich one is the fastest?
I been told you can acheive 3.5MB/s on the A1200 PCMCIA port, but these cards are base on the old PC bus I think.
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Network transfer rate is dependant on the CPU.
On my 1200 030/50 it roughly averages at around the 200-250KB/s mark using a CN40BC card..mind you that is using Samba to transfer files.
I`ll have to see what the other A1200 040/40 with a Kingston card can manage tomorrow.
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My A1200 030@40 managed 238KB/s on a test file using Samba with a 3Com Megahertz 589.
This works out to 1.9Mbps for a 10Mbps card, which isn't quite so impressive. It is much faster than a serial cable though :-)
Chris
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When I bought my PCMCIA card, I didn't look to see witch card that work but I was lucky to get on that worked.
And it was not on the list.
Repotec PCMCIA card.
I have a 060/50 on my BlizzardPPC and the topp speed of my connection was 413.4 kB/s and that was with a 10mbit connection that is soon to be upgraded to 100mbit connection for free!! :-) .
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hey guys... sorry for not giving feedback...
I really appreciate all your answers...
I think I'm going for 3Com but not quite sure yet...
Cheers!
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Doobrey on 2003/8/16 17:55:12
It`s a shame Holger no longer supports or handles registration for Miami
Well, that sux. At least I have all the components of my MiamiDX. I believe 3.5 had Genesis, but I vaguely remember it.
As for ethernet, a faster processor can speed up the transfers. I tried it with my 030/25 in my 4000 and it's sloooooooooooow. Hmm. I'd like to upgrade to a 060 processor very soon.
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Hi,
Can one of you guys who's gotten Samba to work PM or e-mail me? I've already got a network set up consisting of Win98 & XP machines, and now my A1200, using a Linksys EC2T card. I can connect to the network using either Miami or Genesis (Genesis seems to be the better of the two), ping other machines, and pull up my hub diagnostics (http://192.168.1.1 - it's a Linksys hub, too) using Voyager, but Samba is just killing me! My machine is already a hack running on top of a patch on top of a hack (OS4 - Please!), but right now all I'm getting is the guru. Any tips?
Thanks,
Mike
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@Oldsmobile_Mike
Have you looked at amigasamba.org (http://www.amigasamba.org) ?
Setting up a *basic* Samba service on the Amiga is fairly easy, you just have to remember that Win98 and above use encrypted passwords.
Also, have a look through the Yahoo! amigasamba group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigasamba/) mailing list, there`s bound to be people who have had similar problems to you on there.
I`m off out and about for the next few days, but your`re welcome to PM me to help get it going
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Yup, I got it to work.
But I can't help you, sorry.
I just followed the instructions on the webbpage as far as possible.
The only problem I have is that I can't share drives or drawers from the amiga.
I use a saparatly prefs save file for the samba changes just because nobody remote should be able to hack in and use samba for there own intensions.
I have no proble with using Miami.
And on the plus side, the install instructions on the samba webbpage is for miami ;-) .
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What version of samba are you trying to use?
Because newer versions of samba is diffrent both in use and prefs system.
I use Samba 2.0.7 only because thats the one the webbpage is refering to.
So I think you should do the same and if you get that to work THEN move on to newer version.
Hope tyhis helps!
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If you are just connecting to shares on Windows machines and not planning on sharing out Amiga drives, the easiest thing to do is download SMBFS.
It took me a while to get Samba proper running, IIRC it refused to work because I had a mismatch of hostnames within Samba config and Miami.
Chris
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I've achieved 551 kbytes/s download on a 40MHz 030 with Genesis and ncftp.
Unfortunately, there aren't any compatible 100Mbps 3Com cards, so the limit is probably around 10 Mbytes/s, no matter how fast the CPU.
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ncafferkey wrote:
so the limit is probably around 10 Mbytes/s
10 Mbits/s - which is 1.25 Mbytes/s
Chris
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chris wrote:
ncafferkey wrote:
so the limit is probably around 10 Mbytes/s
10 Mbits/s - which is 1.25 Mbytes/s
Chris
Yeah, sorry. I meant to say 1 Mbytes/s (shaving off the 0.25 to allow for the overhead of TCP etc.).
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I use a "LinkSys Model No:EC2T" with cnet.device and the card works great on my A1200. I've never had a problem with it.
AmigaGuy
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Hmm... I've seached eBay for some of the cards on the list...
And it seems like there are nothing of interest for me.
I've tried some internet retailers too...
And I can't seem to find it any cheaper than 30 euro... Wich is abit overpriced in my eyes...
Ehm, how much did you guys buy yours for? and where? What's a reasonble price?
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ncafferkey was that on a PCMCIA card?
I've got a 060/50 and the best I've got from my connection was 483.6 kB/s and that was when I was connected to a LAN.
The limit for PCMCIA card for A1200 is around 5mb(500-600kB/s raw speed), A1200 only has a 16bits cardbuss and thats the hold back.
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I bought mine for around 12 Euro (120 Kronor).
Don't buy typ2 there no reason for you to by that because A1200/A600 can only use type 1 and don't buy faster than 10mb/s your cardbuss won't give more than 500-600 kB/s in the best case.
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/me glances at the Tricom Ethernet III card that was plugged into his '2000 when he recieved it.... free I guess... it's in my brown paper bag of general cheap computer crud at the moment...
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GPT wrote:
ncafferkey was that on a PCMCIA card?
Yes, a 3Com PCMCIA card.
I've got a 060/50 and the best I've got from my connection was 483.6 kB/s and that was when I was connected to a LAN.
The limit for PCMCIA card for A1200 is around 5mb(500-600kB/s raw speed), A1200 only has a 16bits cardbuss and thats the hold back.
I don't think just being 16-bit would hold it back that much, otherwise there probably wouldn't be any 10/100 PCMCIA cards.
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GPT wrote:
Don't buy typ2 there no reason for you to by that because A1200/A600 can only use type 1 and don't buy faster than 10mb/s your cardbuss won't give more than 500-600 kB/s in the best case.
The A1200/A600 can use Type II, but not Type III. This just refers to the height.
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Doobrey wrote:
..or track down someone still selling the NetConnect CD.
@Doobrey
According to Software Hut's page, NetConnect only contains Genesis. Oh foo, and to think I almost got it working - that is until I got to the part about needing a registered version of Miami (following steps from amiga samba web page). Any idea how to do this under Genesis? What I'm most interested in is file & print sharing.
Much thanks,
Mike
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Sorry my fault. (about card types)
@ncafferkey The A1200 only has a 16-bits cardbuss and modern pc's has atleast 32-bits cardbuss access.
That's the difference.