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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: miggy1974 on June 03, 2008, 02:53:48 AM
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Hi all i am new to this forum and this is my 1st post. I have a blizzard 1240 which says blizzard 1260 rev II by phase 5 on the back. The board actually had a 68040/40mhz fitted with 80mhz crystal and no voltage regulator to receive the full 5 volts it requires. Shorlty after receiving the working board from ebay i wanted to upgrade it to a 68060/50mhz so i bought a full MC68060RC50 with mask revision 71E41J lovely and soldered an 060 socket on the board along with a socketed 50mhz crystal. and installed the 060. I have also installed i a 3.3 volt fixed voltage regulator to give the 060 3.3volts but apon powering up the board in my amiga 1200 trapdoor it doesn't boot and just shows a grey screen. I am really dissopointed that it doesn't work and wondered if anyone on this forum could give me some detailed help to hopefully make it work as i see everyone seems to know their stuff on this forum. When i look at rev II blizzard 1260 boards on the net they show a row of i think small diodes along side the voltage regulator but these are missing on my board I have a woking 64mb 72pin memory simm installed which i know worked great when the board was a 040/40mhz so i think the memory is ok.
If anyone could post back i would be truly gratefull or if anyone has done this conversion, even better. sorry for the long essay folks but i need all your expert opinions :-? :-?
James
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You need some software-wise patches to make the board work.
Look at installer's heaven for the special "040" libraries.
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Did you try the board before doing the upgrade? I didn't get that from your message and from the state of it it sounds somewhat fishy before you started your endevor...
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Welcome!
There are probably some small jumpers and firmware (BIOS) that needs to be changed and updated as well. At least I know this is true for the 040 to 060 conversion. There may be other tricks as well. I just read that when upgrading the Blizzard 2040 to an 060 you must boot WITHOUT any ram installed the first time for the board to update some of the IC's. Some more research might be in order.
Good Luck
-Jeff
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Hi yes the board was working fine when bought from ebay with the original 040/40mhz cpu
james
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Hi jeff, thanks for all that info, i will try that and see if it works.
james :-)
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Thanks very much for the info i will try installers heaven
regards, james :-)
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Firstly the bad news:
You may have fried the 68060 processor by putting 5V through it. Hopefully not though.
Secondly the good news:
There are two jumpers you need to change. The first is located just above the oscillator, and is an SMD resistor.
The second is a wire bridge just above the voltage regulator.
Look here for the B1240 (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/blizzard1240_2_big.jpg) and here for the B1260 (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/dce1260_fr_big.jpg)
Regards
Rich
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**IMPORTANT NOTES**
when doing *any* 040 to 060 upgrades with a socket,its a good idea to fit a clean 040 ( not a desoldered one ) back into the socket.
this comfirms the board is in the same state & is working.
if all ok,then you proceed to the next stage. 68060,firmware,jumpers ect.
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**at your own risk** you may try this.
if you dont have a spare 040.
insert the old 040 ( desoldered ) CPU into a spare socket.
then insert the *socket/CPU* into the socket on the board itself and see if it boots.
**do not** insert a desolder CPU back into the main socket on the board,as this may lead to problems when a new CPU is fitted.
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Hi and thanks for the info mate, i will get a clean 040 and pop it in the socket rather than using the desoldered one. Just wondered how do i upgrade the firmware for the 68606 cpu ? for the board to recognise it and the only jumper i can see no the board is to cpoy the rom into fastram for faster execution. Should there be any jumpers onboard to set which cpu i have etc
Kind regards
james
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Hi, thanks for the info. I have done the solder bridge as you said just above the voltage regulator but could you show me where the SMD risistor is located as there are lots of risistors above the 50mhz crystal and im not sure which one you mean, sorry to be a pain
Regards
James
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Hello matey:
I've pointed out the smd resistor in this (http://i29.tinypic.com/34xfbm8.jpg) picture.
On the 1240 it is in the "left" position, on the 1260 it is in the "right" position.
There IS no firmware to update on the B1240-B1260 conversion, you just need to install the correct libraries into libs:
One other thing you will need to do is fit a suitable oscillator. The 68040 runs at half-clock speed, ie a 80MHz oscillator will run the 68040 at 40MHz.
This is not the case with the 68060 - it runs at full clock speed, so a 80MHz oscillator would attempt to run the 68060 at 80MHz. Whilst this will probably not kill anything, it will probably be extremely unstable. I'd recommend you start with a 50MHz oscillator, and work your way up from there if you want to overclock it. Best you will achieve is probably around 66MHz.
Good luck! :-)
Regards
Rich
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mask 71e41j can be overclocked over 66mhz it all depends on the other controllers/microchips around it.
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Hi and thanks rich. I allready have a socketed 50mhz crystal fitted and the voltage regulator fitted so when i move that resistor you have kindly shown me in the picture all should be good. Id like to say thanks very much for all your kind help and everyone else who gave me help on this forum. Im really glad i joined the forum as it has given me the info i need to make the board work, hopefully it works
I will post back soon to let evaryone know the outcome
Thanks to all
Kind regards, jimmy
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Hi and thanks rich. I allready have a socketed 50mhz crystal fitted and the voltage regulator fitted so when i move that resistor you have kindly shown me in the picture all should be good. Id like to say thanks very much for all your kind help and everyone else who gave me help on this forum. Im really glad i joined the forum as it has given me the info i need to make the board work, hopefully it works
I will post back soon to let evaryone know the outcome
Thanks to all
Kind regards, jimmy
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miggy1974 wrote:
Hi and thanks rich. I allready have a socketed 50mhz crystal fitted and the voltage regulator fitted so when i move that resistor you have kindly shown me in the picture all should be good.
Ah yes, I see it in your first post now - missed it when I read it the first time round.
Id like to say thanks very much for all your kind help and everyone else who gave me help on this forum. Im really glad i joined the forum as it has given me the info i need to make the board work
:-D Glad to be able to help. And welcome to Amiga.org :-)
, hopefully it works
I will post back soon to let evaryone know the outcome
Please do!
Also, you might want to check out EAB (http://eab.abime.net) - an excellent site for all things Amiga, especially modding.
If you do join EAB, make sure you post a picture of your upgraded B1240-1260 - it will make a guy named Zetro very happy :lol:
Regards
Rich
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@miggy1974
I am going to do just the same you did, and am wondering about this very jumper :) Has it solved your issue?
And also did you fit the three SMD diodes in series close to the 3.3v voltage regulator, as can be seen on 1260? Are they needed at all?