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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Amiga Emulation => Topic started by: mingle on June 01, 2008, 08:00:36 AM

Title: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: mingle on June 01, 2008, 08:00:36 AM
Hi,

I've seen a bit of news about this "Amiga forever", but have never actually used it...

Is it based on WinUAE?

What features does it offer that some of the other WinUAe-based packages (AIAB, AmiSYS, etc) don't?

Sorry if I sound a bit dim! :-)

Cheers,

Mike.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: AmiKit on June 01, 2008, 08:12:56 AM
Just a brief answer. The Amiga Forever is based on WinUAE too. Compared to other WinUAE-based packages the Amiga Forever contains everything you need to run the emulation (operating system and ROM files) and its integration with WinUAE is very tight - check the  screenshots (http://www.amigaforever.com/screenshots/). In addition, with Amiga Forever you can boot your PC into Amiga environment directly.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: tom_a_spar on June 01, 2008, 08:18:07 AM
amiga forever is the ONLY legal way to get all of the workbenchs/kickstarts (from 1.0 to 3.1 with some 3.9 features)

The Premium Edition of Amiga Forever contains more than five hours of video footage on two DVDs.

DVD 1:

    * Launch of Amiga (1985, 17')
    * Inside Commodore (1988, 40')
    * Jay Miner Speech (1989, 49')
    * Jay Miner Interview (1990, 9')
    * History of the Amiga (1992, 43')

DVD 2:

    * The Deathbed Vigil (1994, 118')
    * Dave Haynie Interview (2001, 55')
    * Amiga Faces Picture Gallery (1988-2005, 50')

and

    * Downloadable CD (ISO image) includes run from CD, boot from CD, cross-platform content, and installer for Windows
    * Includes Amiga Forever Game Pack I (more than 100 games)
    * Includes all features mentioned on this site
You can use the Plus Edition CD in different ways:

    * An installer allows you to easily set everything up on Windows
    * The Amiga emulation and OS also run from CD, either from Windows or booting from the CD itself (no operating system required)
    * Cross-platform components can be used on the most popular computing platforms (Mac OS, GNU/Linux, etc.)

The Plus Edition CD includes the following items which are not part of the Value Edition:

    * More than 300 MB of preinstalled games and demoscene productions
    * OS ROM file versions v. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 2.04 and 2.05 (Workbench 2.1 uses the 2.0x ROMs)
    * OS disk images (ADF files) v. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 2.1
    * Amiga 1000, A590 and A4091 boot ROMs
    * CDTV extended ROM (CDTV uses normal 1.3 boot ROM)
    * CD³² ROM and extended ROM
    * Amiga Forever Boot Floppy Disk
    * Ability to boot a PC from the Amiga Forever Plus Edition CD (El Torito specification)

Additional ROM and System Content

Would you like to see the evolution of the Amiga Workbench from version 1.0 up to 3.X (in different styles, too), through all intermediate versions ever released? With Amiga Forever Plus Edition you can. The ROM and operating system files include all publicly-released versions (except for those that were only meant to run only in combination with a specific piece of hardware which is not required in the hardware emulation, such as the A2024 monitor).

The CDTV and CD³² ROMs can be used to play CDTV and CD³² games, even booting directly from a game CD.
Personal Paint Included

The Amiga Forever Plus Edition CD, which contains an Amiga Rock Ridge file system to carefully preserve the original Amiga file system attributes, also replaced the Personal Paint 7.1 CD as the official up-to-date reference medium for Personal Paint, inclusive of tutorials and full documentation. This data, intended for use on "real" Amiga computers, is contained in the "Amiga" directory at the root of the CD.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: gklinger on July 17, 2008, 05:52:07 AM
Your post has inspired me to buy a copy of Amiga Forever even though I don't have a Windows machine. I think it would be nice to have all those extras and I like the idea of supporting what they're doing. Hopefully I will find some of that stuff useful with E-UAE and my actual Amiga.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: jmbattle on July 17, 2008, 10:28:53 PM
Good stuff - money well spent!

Cheers,
James
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Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: Zekaric on July 18, 2008, 12:11:07 AM
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tom_a_spar wrote:
amiga forever is the ONLY legal way to get all of the workbenchs/kickstarts (from 1.0 to 3.1 with some 3.9 features)
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Just out of curiosity.  What's the reason Cloanto can legally distribute/sell the workbench and kickstart binaries?
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: Skyraker on July 18, 2008, 12:23:39 AM
I'm running a torrent bootleg of 2006 and it is really really good... I only downloaded for a quick gander but i'll be buying 2008 this week.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: meega on July 18, 2008, 12:46:15 AM
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tom_a_spar wrote:
amiga forever is the ONLY legal way to get all of the workbenchs/kickstarts (from 1.0 to 3.1 with some 3.9 features)

No it isn't. You could collect a load of original hardware instead. :-D

And why would you want KS/WB 1.0, 1.1, or 1.2?

1.3 is the absolute least version you should be using for just about anything.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: Oliver on July 19, 2008, 07:26:45 AM
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meega wrote:
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tom_a_spar wrote:
amiga forever is the ONLY legal way to get all of the workbenchs/kickstarts (from 1.0 to 3.1 with some 3.9 features)

No it isn't. You could collect a load of original hardware instead. :-D


Ditto. If you own an Amiga with KS3.1, and the OS you want to use in UAE, then you can just put together all the files you need by yourself.

There are also a few well made pre-configured UAE environments you can get, such as jmbattle's Amiga In A Box (AIAB) (by the way, much thanks James!), AmiKit (this is a pretty slick package, and well maintained), and a few others which slip my mind now - maybe someone else can fill you in about all the options here.

A lot of people still like using the Amiga Forever package, and it does provide some convenient resources. It is certainly not the only way to get into using UAE.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: amigadave on July 19, 2008, 07:46:39 AM
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Zekaric wrote:
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tom_a_spar wrote:
amiga forever is the ONLY legal way to get all of the workbenchs/kickstarts (from 1.0 to 3.1 with some 3.9 features)
...


Just out of curiosity.  What's the reason Cloanto can legally distribute/sell the workbench and kickstart binaries?


They have a license/agreement with AInc. that is many years old.
Title: Re: How is Amiga Forever different to WinUAE + (say) AmiSys?
Post by: motrucker on July 19, 2008, 02:28:25 PM
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tom_a_spar wrote:
amiga forever is the ONLY legal way to get all of the workbenchs/kickstarts (from 1.0 to 3.1 with some 3.9 features)


OMG, why do you think that? It is completely legal and ethical to copy your own ROMs!