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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: Betelgeuse on May 27, 2008, 03:50:12 AM
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Well, it's not an Amiga but some might be interested. I put this up for sale today:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270241185686
EDIT:
Corrected the link to reflect re-listed item.
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I think you put the period in the wrong spot in the BIN. lol
EDIT: hmm..wow there was one that went for $997..
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Ridiculous prices. They are not extremely rare. I used to buy these Falcons from german eBay for under 100€ while I still lived in Canada. Shipping was not that bad either. I've had 7 Falcons in a span of 5 years. I'm out of the Atari scene now though.
Joshua.
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Well, I doubt this one will go for 100 euros. I am not interested in the Atari scene, but can still appreciate collector quality items. It is ultra clean and complete. Someone will want it at over your 100 euros price I think.
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It will go for over 100 euro!! Trust me.
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I guess it will sell for more than the normal price of a second hand Falcon as it's in good state... so I bet it will reach more than 250€ easily :-)
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250€ ? why?
Any Amigan with functionality in mind would be better off spending around 100€ getting a Blizz 1230IV - much faster @ 50mhz - and another 50€ for an A1200 + hdd (+ midi?) ...
Well, what an Atarian collector is willing to pay for is another story.
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Is it an NTSC or PAL falcon?
Does it have a 220v/50Hz compatible PSU?
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Falcons does both NTSC and PAL by default. However, if it's an American Falcy then you most likely need a new PSU for it.
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@Bonami
250€ ? why?
Any Amigan with functionality in mind would be better off spending around 100€ getting a Blizz 1230IV - much faster @ 50mhz - and another 50€ for an A1200 + hdd (+ midi?) ...
If we used any logic, we would never pay 100€ for a crap 50Mhz cpu. And an amigan with functionality in mind would buy an Efika instead of that.
FYI you can play MP3 at 16bit and full quality with Atari Falcon's DSP (you may have to make a small change so it outputs sound at 44Khz instead of 48Khz so it doesn't have to resample). Try to do that with a Blizzard030.
An Amigan would buy a Falcon because it's a great demoscene machine :-)
Atari OS sucks, but Atari demos are great :-)
You also have 060 Atari Falcon accelerators much faster than Amiga accelerators.
Just check out Starstruk running on a 060/66Mhz Atari Falcon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vW0U5zB4JA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vW0U5zB4JA)
I would love if Atari Falcon could run AROS m68k...
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I had to pull the auction because the reserve price was wrong. I'll re-list later today.
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That's me out then :-(
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@ Crumb,
Thanks for elucidating the point, and introducing to me the other retro world.... I didn't realize the Atari's strength in demo scene, for i've never used an Atari before.
'Guess my 'faithfulness' to amiga has limited my experience.
(money is another reason ;-)
@ Gaiyan
Hi Joshua, having owned many Falcons in the past, perhaps you can share with us how you like the atari and why you left it. And also how you like the amiga now ;-) otherwise you wouldn't have kept coming back to amiga.org ?
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One think I noticed about 68000-based Macs is the use of L2 cache, while I am not aware of any Amiga accelerator which did this. Do Falcon accelerators have L2 cache?
For that matter, why wouldn't Amiga accelerators have L2 cache?
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Crumb wrote:
I would love if Atari Falcon could run AROS m68k...
I would love AROS on a Falcon... That would be a beautiful machine!!!
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WTF does the OS matter?
If you get off on using an OS then you are a freak.
Content is all that matters! Applications. And I'm not talking about lame homebrew posing as content I am talking about quality commercial applications & games.
Gem (TOS GUI) is fine for the few moments you use it to launch your Falcon applications.
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alexh wrote:
WTF does the OS matter?
If you get off on using an OS then you are a freak.
Content is all that matters! Applications. And I'm not talking about lame homebrew posing as content I am talking about quality commercial applications & games.
Gem is fine for the few moments you use it to launch your Falcon applications.
Well a Falcon with 68k AROS would be able to run all my OS legal Amiga software :-)
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Like what? Exactly.
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alexh wrote:
Like what? Exactly.
I don't know... I must have some somewhere :lol:
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The only thing worth running on the Amiga platform are classic games and demos and development tools.
The same is true about the Falcon.
The OS is just a method of accessing these programs. Nothing more, nothing less.
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If we used any logic, we would never pay 100€ for a crap 50Mhz cpu. And an amigan with functionality in mind would buy an Efika instead of that.
Last I heard Efika ran something called Linux? I think your logic is flawed. :-D
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I have now re-listed the item, the auction starts at 10:00PM ET tonight.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270241185686
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I am also into the Atari scene. Falcon030's go for a lot ($500 to $1000) Check out this recent Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Atari-Falcon-030-Computer-Loaded-Mint-Must-See_W0QQitemZ290230465663QQihZ019QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).
I also I think the PS is switching so it can do 110/220v. But am not 100% sure.
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The Falcon is certainly a desirable piece of kit to own from a collectors point of view; I was looking into buying one. But from the sounds of things, backwards compatibility with existing Atari software is somewhere in the region of 60%... so I dont know what utility there is to be gained from buying one when you could just buy a 520 STFM or 1040 STFM and enjoy access to a wider catalogue of software.
I agree with AlexH; it aint the OS that counts, but the software you can run on it. But shelling out over 1000 USD for a machine that can run a handful of Falcon demo's and games doesnt seem worth it to me IMHO. One for the collectors I suppose ;)
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I agree. If you get one to run ST software you will feel like you failed miserably. I am fortunate to own TWO of them! Both in the box. One is brand new. Thinking of selling it too, but I am hoping to get $1,000 for it. ;)
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The thing for me is that I have no use for it, and software is very scarce. I'm not much of a collector, I've got my Amigas and lots of software for them so the Falcon is just extra box I have to lug around. Someone may have a use for it, or keep it as a collectible. Better than me, where it's just sitting in a closet all the time.
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I do consider myself to be a collector that uses his collection and if I had the money, I would buy that Falcon030 and store it away safely most of the time even though I know nothing about it or what it can run. It is an attractive computer, reminds me of another "Classic" in computer history.
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If I hadn't sworn off collecting stuff I don't use...I'd have an ST and a Falcon around just because they're classics of the day :D
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That's a beautiful machine. Would love to be able to pick it up from ya.
Back before I got into Amiga, my grandfather had an Atari 520ST. He had some CADD program he used for work, GFA Basic, and some games, both commercial and freeware. I really got into that machine, and have wanted to get my hands on a 520 or 1040 model ever since, or even something more like what I use in Amiga-land. I was promised his computer and software collection upon his death, but it went into another relative's closet and hasn't been seen or heard from since.
The desktop aside, the Atari ST is a neat computer. One day when I can justify the expenditure, I'll pick up a unit to learn and play with.
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@AmigaHeretic
and last Efika I touched was running MorphOS fast and smoothly.
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Only a couple of days left in the auction...
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The auction ends today... although I am rather surprised that it has reached $1000 already.
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Another one up for auction! yes mine...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Atari-Falcon030-Computer-NEW-in-box-NIB-030-rare_W0QQitemZ130235937809QQihZ003QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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thats a nice one. clean and complete.
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HAHAHA i dont know how much that is in £ or $ but good luck :crazy: