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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Phantom on May 26, 2008, 06:08:52 PM
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I encounter problems installing my new Deneb card. I read the manual, I did exactly what it says but nothing.
First of all, the jumper is in RESCUE mode, I can see the 2 leds on the card (FPGA and RESCUE mode lit). I got in the Amiga Early Startup to check if everything is ok. And everything is ok. I got the 2 new entries working.
But the manual says next to boot. So I boot but nothing happens. I supposed to see a folder or something on the workbench right? But nothing happens. Any ideas?
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With the jumper in the "rescue" position, you should see a folder on the workbench. Perhaps it is off the bottom of the visible screen though, or obscured by another icon.
Try Arranging all icons on the desktop (Right Amiga key + .)
Regards
Rich
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I already did that, but nothing happens. Even from CLI, I typed just for fun "denebinstall:" to see, but nothing is mounted.
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Is this in your A4000T?
Are you also using any devices on your internal scsi bus?
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Installed on my A4000T system, is my Voodoo4 GFX Card, a Scandoubler, a VLab Y/C card and a Netgear MA311 PCI wireless card and of course Deneb card. Also I use only one hard drive and a DVD-RW, nothing else.
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Are the hard drive or DVD drive on the internal SCSI of the A4KT?
If so, this could be the problem.
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Both are connected on the internal SCSI bus of my A4000T. But I don't understand if this is a problem how I can install Deneb, if I can't boot to workbench? From floppies? :-o :-?
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You might be able to set the PIO mode jumper and do it that way.
Apparently (and I'm only repeating what I have read in the manual and elsewhere) Buster 11 will only allow one DMA zorro device to operate at once. Since the internal scsi of the A4Kt operates as a DMA device, you will only be able to operate Deneb in PIO only mode whilst there are devices on the internal scsi bus.
Personally, I'd ask Mr Boehmer for advice, since I've not explicitly read anywhere that the "rescue" jumper and PIO jumper should be set at the same time. Logically it should be possible, since you must be able to upgrade the firmware in a non-DMA capable zorro environment (A2K, A1200, etc), but it wouldn't hurt to play it safe.
In the longer term, I'd look getting an accelerator with built-in scsi, and moving your devices onto that. That way you'll be able to operate the Deneb in DMA mode.
Regards
Rich
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I have Buster v11 installed. But maybe the problem would be the VLab Y/C zorro card. I will try without that, so Deneb would be the only Zorro card installed. But I didn't see any jumper about selecting PIO mode. :-?
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What turbo card have you ? A CSMK2 ?
Look at here. (http://www.e3b.de/usb/index_e.html) Then click on Support. There you will find an explanation.
Write a mail to Michael. He will answer quickly.
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I'm serching for a MK2 or MK3 060 board, but now I have a Blizzard 4030 installed. Thanks for the link though.
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I've just got my Deneb manual, you are right, there is no jumper to set for PI0 mode, it looks like this is selected depending on the choice of device driver.
I was getting confused with the zorro2 mode jumper.
In that case, I'm afraid I don't know matey, best bet is to ask Mr B next time he's online.
Regards
Rich
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Well, thanks for the info guys, I will contact Michael asap.
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after the installation on a z3 machine deneb should be working in z3 pio mode on next boot. the dma mode has to be enabled manually, so this should not be the problem u encounter. normally deneb plays some intro on rgb while/after initiated. you can interrupt it by klicking. i assume also it would be best to try z2 mode first. the mediator or whatever u have underneath ur voodoo could also possibly cause a problem although while i cant use dma on my machine, i already ruled it out as a cause of the problem.
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Guess you are a "watchdog victim" - try the "TST" jumper in addition to "RESC", this should do the job. A new firmware is under test which will have a more simple way of dealing with situations in which a broken CPU card or broken ROM module makes the machine go wild (deactivate and activate FlashROM by Ctrl-A-A).
PIO or DMA is selected by device driver.
@boot_wb: Rescue mode always is Zorro II by default. The "ZII" jumper only works in normal operation, if "RESC" is set it will always win (and btw, due to jumper design you can either set "RESC" or "ZII", but not both at the same time).
If you have questions on any DENEB issue it is always best to mail me directly - as you can see here in this thread confusion is the result if several people are discussing with only some kind of "half knowledge", which will confuse other people searching for answers.
Michael
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Thanks Michael for the info. I will try this right now! :-D
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Erm, yes, another issue: please use mboehmere3bde for support contact, not the PMs here, as I don't have time to scan all my forum mail folders everyday.
Thanks, Michael
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Tough luck! :boohoo:
I got a recoverable alert request, and when I boot to workbench, I got a requester to watch or not the new animation from Eric and then nothing!!! :-?
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I got a recoverable alert request, and when I boot to workbench, I got a requester to watch or not the new animation from Eric and then nothing!!! :-?
Did you set "RESC" and "TST" for installation?
If you get this requester you are in normal operation, and not the rescue mode.
Did you install the software from DenebInstall: in rescue mode?
If so, you are done. The requester is just one ROM module in the FlashROM which notifies you that there is some goodie in the FlashROM for you (namely the "Still Alive" demo from Eric Schwartz himself).
Just draw a copy of the original FlashROM contents with Luciferin, create an empty local list and upload it, then the FlashROM is empty and the requester gone.
If not, please set the "RESC" and "TST" jumper, start your Amiga, install the software from DenebInstall: (older V3.x versions won't work!), maybe draw a copy of DenebInstall: on your HDD and remove both jumpers (after powerdown) for normal operation.
Michael
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Oops. You meant RESCUE and TST together... sorry... I will check it right now again. :-D
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i have to correct my previous statement. just this moment after step for step tests on another of my a4ks i clearly identified that mediator4000di busboard and not the mediator bridgeboard causes a problem with deneb dma driver that leads immediately to a system hangup. so maybe mediator busboards of whatever type might caus all sorts of problems with deneb. i will report it to e3b. otherwise pio modes are no problem on mediator systems i checked.
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That did the trick. Thanks Michael. I installed everything from the Flash ROM. Now I'm on my own! 8-)
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so maybe mediator busboards of whatever type might caus all sorts of problems with deneb. i will report it to e3b. otherwise pio modes are no problem on mediator systems i checked.
This one is new for me.
Anyone here working with Zorro III, DENEB and eFlash4000 here?
We have several mails from customer which reported severe problems, and we could also see them in our lab (with an eFlash4000 donated by one of the frustated customers).
If you are running such a configuration, be it with or without problems, please report by PM to mboehmere3bde , as I want to clarify this issue for our customers.
Your feedback may help us, as having more information from different system configuration usually helps tracking down such bugs.
Michael
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All right, I installed everything from the Deneb installations, I put FAT95 on L: drawer, but when I insert a USB stick nothing happens. What I am missing? :-?
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Have you started Trident prefs, and added denebdmausb
device to the controller section?
After that press the online button and save your settings.
Regards,
Lloyd
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I started Trident prefs, I updated the controller section with denebdmausb.device but I don't have internet on Amiga yet so when I press the online button nothing happens. It gives me a message that failed. Any alternatives?
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The online button does have nothing to do with internet.
It activates the poseidon USB stack.
What is the message precisely?
Regards,
Lloyd
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"Opening DEVS:USBHardware/denebdmausb.device unit 0 failed hardware failed selt-test (-7)"
This one.
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Try to use denebpiousb.device in the controllers
section.
Regards,
Lloyd
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I already tried this also. I got the same message. Are you sure that "Online" doesn't mean internet?
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Are you sure that "Online" doesn't mean internet
100% sure.
Is the card detected in the early boot menu (does it show
up in expansion boards), as described in the manual?
If so, and if after rebooting your system it still gives
this error, I advise you to contact Michael Boehmer of
E3B.
Regards,
Lloyd
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BTW after software installation you did power off the
system and remove the jumpers, right?
Regards,
Lloyd
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I did everything what manual says. My system recognizes it and of course I removed the jumpers after the installation. :-?
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Then contact Michael Boehmer. The hardware can't be
activated, because the self-test failed, just like
the message says.
Regards,
Lloyd
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Thanks for the help, I really appreciated this. :-)
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No problem. Let us know what Michael says OK?
Might be handy for other users who encounter this problem.
Regards,
Lloyd
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Sure! I sent him an email already.
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I bought a CS060 MK2, but I have installed the Deneb tools from the beginning to use it with the new CPU board. I read on E3B site that this accelerator card have some problems, but I really don't understand to fix the problem.
All I can see is the Deneb logo in the beginning and then my Amiga freezes. Any solutions?
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Phantom wrote:
I bought a CS060 MK2, but I have installed the Deneb tools from the beginning to use it with the new CPU board. I read on E3B site that this accelerator card have some problems, but I really don't understand to fix the problem.
All I can see is the Deneb logo in the beginning and then my Amiga freezes. Any solutions?
I suppose you installed the 68060.library and 68040.library before you installed the board? Are you absolutely sure that the freeze results from the Deneb (i.e. does removing the Deneb allow you to continue booting)? What's inside the FlashRom? Have you tried clearing it? Have you tried holding down the left mouse button to temporarily skip the contents of the FlashRom?
The problems related to the MK II (without SCSI Module) have actually been worked around (in fact, the problem is caused by a bug in the expansion.library, which unfortunately cannot be patched or changed). Any other Zorro cards with Autoconfig ROM in your machine?