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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: motorollin on May 14, 2008, 03:49:34 PM

Title: Deneb questions
Post by: motorollin on May 14, 2008, 03:49:34 PM
Since Poseidon can be inserted in to the Deneb's flash ROM, does that mean USB devices can be used from cold boot? Can USB keyboards, mice and mass storage be seen even if booting without startup-sequence, or if booting from a floppy? Does the mouse work in early startup? Does the USB stack still run within the flash ROM if you run non-system-friendly software such as WHDLoad? If so will a USB joystick work in such games?

TIA

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moto
Title: Re: Deneb questions
Post by: Piru on May 14, 2008, 04:09:41 PM
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Does the USB stack still run within the flash ROM if you run non-system-friendly software such as WHDLoad? If so will a USB joystick work in such games?

While other points are probably "yes", these two are "no".
Title: Re: Deneb questions
Post by: motorollin on May 14, 2008, 04:17:06 PM
I suspected as much, though I was hoping that it being in the flash ROM might make it different to just running as an application. Thanks for letting me know though.

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moto
Title: Re: Deneb questions
Post by: alexh on May 14, 2008, 04:29:21 PM
The games will undoubtedly "bang" the hardware so it's not going to work.

Unless the WHDload SLAVE writers have some way of making the I/O OS friendly... which I doubt it?
Title: Re: Deneb questions
Post by: darksun9210 on May 14, 2008, 04:35:19 PM
so i guess the only way its going to work is to run ppc/wosUAE on workbench and run the game you want. as that'll give you the level of abstraction required to use USB controllers. can't say how fast it'll be... :-(
at least you'll be able to use the mouse in the early startup menu, and booting off of floppy into something like Dpaint, you'll still have USB available...?

wait a sec, what about bootng off of USB CD?
Title: Re: Deneb questions
Post by: motorollin on May 14, 2008, 04:37:17 PM
@alexh
I'm guessing there's a reason why they had to turn off multitasking. Perhaps they could allow Poseidon to run but nothing else? That would mean multitasking couldn't be turned off completely. It would have to be restricted to the game which is running and Poseidon. But I have no idea if that's even possible, or if it would cause problems with the running of the game.

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moto