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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Jose on May 04, 2008, 03:58:38 PM
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Erm.. does anyone knows a cheap way, don't care if it take ages, to ship a big high volume order (maybe around 80x80x80 cm) from the UK to other place in the EU, that weights around 100Kg ? All I found are extremely expensive, I'd spend less money if I made 2500Km by car to collect it!
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P.S. I'm not having internet access most days now so I might take some time to answer...
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You could try these guys (http://www.interparcel.co.uk) as they have accounts all over the place. Other than that you need to bribe someone who is already making the journey :lol:
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This company will take up to 1000kg per piece!
http://www.city-link.co.uk/services/introadexpress.php
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meega wrote:
This company will take up to 1000kg per piece!
http://www.city-link.co.uk/services/introadexpress.php
A megagram! ;-)
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moto
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Cool, thanks for the links. It's for a 36" Sony CRT by the way ;-)
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you can also try here (http://parcel2go.com) as well
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@ meega, You could send a small car at that weight!
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try Transport Joyau /Scheikner/.....
but if you can split the weight in some suite case, try a low cost airplaine and taxi
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Jose wrote:
It's for a 36" Sony CRT by the way ;-)
I don't think splitting it would be a viable option, not to mention the excess baggage surcharge. ;-)
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Hmm, I think at the price Plasmas are going it's probably not worth it, thanks for the links anyway but it would be insane to do it.. :roll:
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Are you sure it weighs that much? I've got a 52 inch TV and it ways only about 40 Kgs...
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persia wrote:
Are you sure it weighs that much? I've got a 52 inch TV and it ways only about 40 Kgs...
Then yours is definately not a CRT. If it's not a Plasma/LCD, it's one of those huge rear-projection TVs then and they don't weigh that much.
Shipping CRTs is probably not worth it especially if it's not a widescreen one. 36" Widescreen, maybe...
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Those Sony 36"s really seem to weigh 200-220 Lbs, nearly 100 kg - my ex 32" was just about 70 kg...
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100kg holy crap, that weighs more than me. I'd have to get a friend to help me move a tv like that. I have a 27" sony wega and I can barely move that sucker around.
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A CRt? This is 2008, who in their right mind would want a CRT in 2008?
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Well, by your simple logic, it would appear to be someone in their wrong mind :crazy:
On the other hand, it could be someone in their right mind who was trying to work out if it was feasible to transport a gift across Europe. Someone who has now decided that it is not a viable proposition.
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persia wrote:
A CRt? This is 2008, who in their right mind would want a CRT in 2008?
Who in their right mind would want an Amiga in 2008?!
Sorry, couldn't resist. :-D
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persia wrote:
A CRt? This is 2008, who in their right mind would want a CRT in 2008?
Me. I know it's fashionable and all that to have a flat panel TV nowadays, but I still prefer the picture of a good CRT over an LCD, and even most plasmas costing ten times as much. If you have the space, why not use a CRT if it makes your viewing experience more pleasurable?
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persia wrote:
A CRt? This is 2008, who in their right mind would want a CRT in 2008?
Me. I had a TFT for use with my Amiga, but scandoubled screens looked like crap because the resolution was so far below the screen's native resolution. The scaled image looked awful. Swapped for a CRT and the picture quality was a lot better.
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moto
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For SD-resolutions and scaling, nothing beats a CRT. If only they had more HD capable CRTs here in Europe I would not hesitate to buy one. LCD/Plasmas are looking really good in Full HD resolutions though. Contrast is getting better every year and so is color gradients as well. Don't see that much banding anymore.
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motorollin wrote:
meega wrote:
This company will take up to 1000kg per piece!
http://www.city-link.co.uk/services/introadexpress.php
A megagram! ;-)
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moto
no, that would be 1024Kg :-D :lol:
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If you want the retro feel take a modern TV, strap a packing crate on the back of it and throw a couple of lead bars in the crate...
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persia wrote:
If you want the retro feel take a modern TV, strap a packing crate on the back of it and throw a couple of lead bars in the crate...
And throw an old Electric bar heater in there for good measure.
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The weight is really 100Kg!!!
It was a KV36HQ100B for almost nothing (100£) :-o
You can see a review of this set HERE (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/outputpdf.php?file=WVTV/200406/046_WV_0604.pdf)
Beats out the crap of practically any current LCD/Plasma in black level.
On the other hand, the new Panasonic line is coming out as we speak and new models are said have came up almost on par with Pioneers Kuru line, which is probably the only one with black levels like a good CRT but the price is huge.
Still, all these things, no matter how good they are, will show a pretty poor image with standard definition sources.
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Jose wrote:
The weight is really 100Kg!!!
It was a KV36HQ100B for almost nothing (100£) :-o
You can see a review of this set HERE (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/outputpdf.php?file=WVTV/200406/046_WV_0604.pdf)
Beats out the crap of practically any current LCD/Plasma in black level.
On the other hand, the new Panasonic line is coming out as we speak and new models are said have came up almost on par with Pioneers Kuru line, which is probably the only one with black levels like a good CRT but the price is huge.
Still, all these things, no matter how good they are, will show a pretty poor image with standard definition sources.
Very nice! Definately a keeper.
Joshua.
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bloodline wrote:
motorollin wrote:
meega wrote:
This company will take up to 1000kg per piece!
A megagram! ;-)
no, that would be 1024Kg :-D :lol:
The shipping company would work it out at 1000Kg per megagram so it costs you more. Everybody else would use 1024Kg per megagram and then complain that the shipping companies aren't being honest about the weight of their packages ;-)
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moto
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Two things I don't understand....
Unless your telly has lead shielding I don't see how it can be 100Kg! My Sony WEGA 32" weighs about 35-40Kg. It definitely didn't weigh 100Kg because it only took two of us to load it onto the stand. If it had been 100Kg, that'd have been 50Kg each and I couldn't lift that that far, I'm sure. Why do you think it's 100Kg?
Secondly, what's all this about TFTs not doing SD signals well? I was running my A1200 on my Sony 40W3000 (40" TFT) and not only was the picture signal fantastically clear (perhaps a little too clear as it showed up every pixel) but also it scandoubled the A1200's interlaced output so the picture was solid even in PAL High-Res laced. Very handy!
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spirantho wrote:
Secondly, what's all this about TFTs not doing SD signals well?
It depends on the TFT screen's native resolution, and how it handles non-native resolutions. The cheap screen I had used 1024x768 as its native resolution. The Amiga's scandoubled output was much lower than this, and the scaling/stretching of the TFT screen made the picture look horrible. Other screens may do a better job, but I wasn't prepared to mess about finding one which would do the job when I knew a CRT would do just fine.
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moto
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Makes sense.
But in that case surely your complaint is against a cheap telly, not TFT per se.
Don't want people to think that TFT tellies can't do Amiga signals well because they can. You just need a decent one. But if you get a good one (like mine) you do indeed get a scandoubled solid 40" PAL screen. :)
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And throw an old Electric bar heater in there for good measure.
Are you mad, every LCD or especially plasma throws out much more heat than most CRTs
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JJ wrote:
And throw an old Electric bar heater in there for good measure.
Are you mad,
Clearly, but I don't think that's relevant right now...
every LCD or especially plasma throws out much more heat than most CRTs
I guess all my TFTs must be super efficient and all my CRTs must be very inefficient... It does seem odd that the Laptop CRT never really took off give how little power they use and how cool running they are... :-?
:-D Yes I'm in one of those moods..
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Interesting so how do LCDs produce more heat with half the power? Do they have some sort of perpetual motion machine in them? At work we had a lab that was all CRTs, about 20 or so, the air conditioning was running all the time, even during the middle of winter, we replaced them with LCDs and the AC only runs in the summer. AND the electric bill dropped to about 40% of the pre-lcd days.
They principle advantage of CRTs are in the dark greys and blacks, the principle disadvantages are power (and heat), size and weight. You pays your money you takes your choices. Since I pay the elctric bill in my house and since I don't watch all that much black on my TV or computer the choice is pretty obvious!
To recap the heat comes from the power, the more electricity you draw the more heat you produce.
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persia wrote:
Interesting so how do LCDs produce more heat with half the power? Do they have some sort of perpetual motion machine in them?
It is perfectly possible to produce more heat with less power if more power is converted to heat in the low powered device than in the high powered device. I'm not saying this is necessarily the case with LCD screens, but to say "do they have a perpetual motion machine" as an argument for them necessarily not giving off more heat than a different device is illogical.
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moto
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Just read a test of 40-42" TV sets.
Panasonic plasma did use 370 W max, LCD sets from 90 to 270 W on daylight settings; the smallest figure for evening settings was for a Sony, just 32 W. A huge variation! My old 32" tube did use probably 120 W.
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Jose wrote:
does anyone knows a cheap way, don't care if it take ages, to ship a big high volume order (maybe around 80x80x80 cm) from the UK to other place in the EU, that weights around 100Kg ?
Forget about parcel services, and try a regular groupage transport company. I worked at DFDS Transport (they're also in the UK) for a few years and we quite often shipped small private shipments (1 or more boxes, a single pallet - sizes like that). Just phone around to any international groupage transport company (Eddie Stobart is a big one in the UK - I see them in Holland quite often too)...