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Title: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Crom00 on April 27, 2008, 06:50:59 PM
Long link (http://cgi.ebay.com/External-CD-ROM-drive-for-Amiga-1200-and-600-computers_W0QQitemZ320244321766QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


Please review the above ad. From what I gather there is no way this will work with an A1200 or A600. Has anyone seen drivers for this?

Also the ad posting and format,paymenyt terms, laughable shipping terms... looks the to be the same layout and non friendly writting of a guy that sold me a busted power supply and closed up shop.

Why does ebay allow the same person to keep doing business over and over?

Moderator edit: reason - Long link
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Xamiche on April 27, 2008, 07:17:53 PM
He sounds like a bit of a arse clown to me. His shipping terms are ludicrous. The whole reason for Pay Pal holding the funds is to protect the buyer. By not shipping until after the 21 day period, he's bypassing the very protection that Pay Pal offers the buyer. There are some real sharks on eBay.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: redrumloa on April 27, 2008, 07:22:02 PM
I doubt this CD-Rom would work on an Amiga.

That said, it sounds like the seller may have been burned before. The eBay account looks solid, registered since 2000 and 100% positive feedback, though only a net 27. I wouldn't agree to the terms though
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: tokyoracer on April 27, 2008, 07:45:01 PM
He is an arse-clown, it's doomy.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: motorollin on April 27, 2008, 08:00:25 PM
Yep, that definitely sounds like MC Campbell. And I highly doubt there are any Amiga drivers for that device.

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moto
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Matt_H on April 27, 2008, 09:50:16 PM
The prose reeks of Doomy's "unique" linguistic style. It's getting harder to spot him, though. Seems he finally learned to stop putting Beaverton or Oregon as his location, as that was a dead giveaway. The spotless account is especially suspicious. Probably hijacked from someone he convinced to give him the password.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: tokyoracer on April 27, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
It is him, he has tried to sell that drive before.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: amigadave on April 27, 2008, 11:10:31 PM
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motorollin wrote:
Yep, that definitely sounds like MC Campbell. And I highly doubt there are any Amiga drivers for that device.

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moto


Must be his cousin!   :lol:
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Boot_WB on April 27, 2008, 11:10:35 PM
Seller: Mr Juan Kerr, Beaverton, Oregon ?
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: trekiej on April 27, 2008, 11:56:10 PM
It says someone bought it.
edit:
I just hope someone did not buy the proverbial farm.
 :-D
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: gazgod on April 28, 2008, 12:02:07 AM
Stupid thing is, if its the model of Sony cdrom i think it is (only one model of sony cdrom will boot the mini c1 series vaio's) then he'd of got more money listing it properly rather than trying to rip people off with a cdrom that will never work on a amiga unless someone writes a driver for the interface card.

Gaz
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: tokyoracer on April 28, 2008, 09:49:49 AM
I thought he had an A1200, he should have been able to try it out first.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Crom00 on April 28, 2008, 03:04:08 PM
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That said, it sounds like the seller may have been burned before. The eBay account looks solid, registered since 2000 and 100% positive feedback, though only a net 27. I wouldn't agree to the terms though


Actually it is that guy, the fellow that sold me the power supply had the same whack and shipping terms and yes it was the Campbell name, from Oregon.

After the auction he cancelled his account he posted a picture in his about seller page of himself smirking.

It looks like the schmendrick singing the only Amiga song posted here afew days ago.

Anyway to permanently ban him from ebay?
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: amesie2 on May 01, 2008, 01:33:28 PM
I would say it is Dommy for sure it fits his style! if you look at the feedback there is a picture of the guy and it isn't Doomy. I would guess he hi-jacked someones account which if that is the case I'm sure it is against Ebay policy.

I also found another LINK (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320245452571&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011) to a 4000 he has been trying to sell on Ebay for quite some time and also on Craigslist.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: mauidj on May 01, 2008, 07:24:25 PM
@ gazgod
Sorry to go off subject but...
Is that your Caterham 7 on your avatar?
It's beautiful  :-)

Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: gazgod on May 01, 2008, 07:56:01 PM
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mauidj wrote:
@ gazgod
Sorry to go off subject but...
Is that your Caterham 7 on your avatar?
It's beautiful  :-)



Thanks I think shes beautiful too :love:

She is a Robin Hood, Lotus 7 copy kit car :-D

Gaz
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Daedalus on May 01, 2008, 09:31:02 PM
He seems to have lots of other Amiga-related items with odd descriptions. To be honest, while the writing style's very Doomy-ish, I don't think he'd be the type of idiot to say that an Emplant card can emulate a 586 PC!


eBay Clicky (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320246054040&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BID_IT&refitem=320244321766&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%26itu%3DUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4)
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Darrin on May 01, 2008, 09:59:05 PM
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Daedalus wrote:
He seems to have lots of other Amiga-related items with odd descriptions. To be honest, while the writing style's very Doomy-ish, I don't think he'd be the type of idiot to say that an Emplant card can emulate a 586 PC!


Well, with the planned 586 module it would have been able too and it's Doomey's style to advertise abstract possibilities as thinly worded facts in order to defend his conman act.  Which is why he doesn't state exactly what type of Mac you can emulate.

What he's hoping is that someone is gullible enough to think that they can run Windows XP and OSX on their Amiga and when they can't hell just say, "Well you should have known better - System 7 will run fine and any idiot knows that you'll need the extra module mentioned in the manual for the PC side."

OK, his description sucks, but he's carefully stepping around the eBay regulations regarding the description and that's what Doomey does well.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Ken86Stang on May 03, 2008, 05:32:10 PM
A link from one of the pics on his auction:

LINK (http://retrogeekcomputers.com/eBay/MicronTechnologyInc_2Meg.jpg)
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Darrin on May 03, 2008, 06:57:22 PM
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Ken86Stang wrote:
A link from one of the pics on his auction:

LINK (http://retrogeekcomputers.com/eBay/MicronTechnologyInc_2Meg.jpg)


I think that settles it.  "http://retrogeekcomputers.com/eBay/MicronTechnologyInc_2Meg.jpg"
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Eclipse on May 04, 2008, 01:44:56 AM
Yep,
 Link goes to Doomy's site.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: koaftder on May 04, 2008, 03:08:51 AM
lol, he's been trying to sell this thing for over two years.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Darrin on May 04, 2008, 03:30:24 AM
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koaftder wrote:
lol, he's been trying to sell this thing for over two years.


The sad thing is, if that's true then he probably did sell it 2 years ago and just keeps putting the picture up and selling it over and over again even though he no longer has it.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: LoadWB on May 04, 2008, 04:30:23 AM
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amesie2 wrote:

I also found another LINK (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320245452571&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011) to a 4000 he has been trying to sell on Ebay for quite some time and also on Craigslist.


::sigh:: I simply cannot help myself.  I read through his auction, and this type of seller is the typical twit-minded flea market, comic pricing guide reader.

Hey, dude, wake up: no one cares that you bought the item personally way back in the day or how much sentimental value it has for you, nor the individual pricing for the various components included, and so on.  (Only part of this is relevant to the Doomy auction, but worth mentioning none-the-less.)

I ran into a stupid twit at the flea market in Crestview, FL, a number of years back.  With 22 CollecoVision cartridges sitting in an uncovered box he could not for less than $2.75 ea.: 20 years old, no case or book, had been exposed to the elements for God knows how long, and he did not even know if they still worked.  I visited six months later, same cartridges, same story.  And again two years later.  Eventually the flea market land was sold to build a Home Depot (IIRC.)  I often wonder if the guy ever sold those carts.  (FWIW, I was not angry with the guy; we both set our reserves, and neither matched.  That is how it works, but still think he is a stupid twit :crazy: )

What kills me about this is how people will hold on to stuff that is "worth" much more than what they are being offered, often holding on until the point that the item has to be tossed or given away for myriad reasons.  It is worth what someone will pay you for it!  Ask anyone trying to sell a house today :-P

Anyway, so I decided to dissect the 4000 auction bit-by-bit:

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This Amiga 4000 contains the following: ... a disk drive.

The pictures shows two disk drives.  Buyer beware and be careful -- either he is showing an old picture which is not indicative of the product's current condition, a picture of different product, or he will carefully rape the second drive out before shipping and may or may not put an appropriate case blank in place.  And this,

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Q:    Is this Amiga has some processor card? Thank you.
A:    It has a Commodore 040/25 board.

Good thing this was asked, because it is not explicitly stated in the product description, and you would have been "stupid" for not reading and understanding the terms of the auction thoroughly when you received an A4000 in excellent condition minus the brain.  Once again the picture is deceptive as the case bears a "4000/040" badge.

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The battery was carefully removed before it had a chance to leak, and the motherboard looks great.

He always says this, and I am always suspicious of it.

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The hard to find Amiga 4000 keyboard is included for FREE (a $65 value).

Almost every working 4000 auction I have seen includes a keyboard.

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I have been watching many Amiga 4000 auctions here on eBay, over the past few months.  I noticed that all of them sold for over $500, one sold for almost $800.  Many of those Amiga 4000 computers were yellowed and they were not in the extremely nice condition that mine is in.

Irrelevant.  This one sure as hell has not sold in that price range and I remember seeing the thing for auction several times for the past year at least, so there are inferences to be made about his market observations.  I have seen 4000 auctions go for as low as $200 in his stated condition, so I might think that is a fair price.  I have also noticed that modern buyers, including collectors, have come to terms with the yellowing situation and place a negligible difference in value between yellowed and non-yellowed kit.

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If you add up the cost of the upgrades, you will discover that the low starting bid amount of only $499.95 is an awesome deal.  The following is a list of what these upgrades usually sell for on eBay and the internet:

Again, irrelevant.  The sum of the parts is greater than that of the whole.  You will get more out of parting something out than selling it bundled.  It has been true for game consoles, consumer electronics, and Taco Bell, and it is just as true for vintage computing products.  Additionally, service put into an item to keep it operational is generally lost as a cost of ownership and does not add to the base-line value, although not putting in that service and leaving the item in a less-than-working condition does reduce the value because the buyer has to put into it himself (hehehe another story here, but I will spare you) but usually does not mind doing so.

Blah.

END OF LINE.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: koaftder on May 04, 2008, 05:48:55 AM
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Darrin wrote:
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koaftder wrote:
lol, he's been trying to sell this thing for over two years.


The sad thing is, if that's true then he probably did sell it 2 years ago and just keeps putting the picture up and selling it over and over again even though he no longer has it.


That really is sad and you're probably right. I have seen this exact product for sale by the same person over a year and half ago at least, probably more than two years ago and there was discussion about it on this site.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Eclipse on May 04, 2008, 01:10:58 PM
Hi,
 I asked if the "Doomy Deluxe" audio CD comes with one of his auctions. I asked if I purchased another card will it make me sing badly.
He has since taken all Amiga auctions down :)
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: motorollin on May 04, 2008, 01:37:41 PM
And there I was thinking he would be flattered by the attention :lol:

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moto
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: Marcb on May 04, 2008, 02:18:11 PM
I've read a few threads now that make reference to "doomy" , I take it he is some kind of scammer?

Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: koaftder on May 04, 2008, 02:36:11 PM
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Marcb wrote:
I've read a few threads now that make reference to "doomy" , I take it he is some kind of scammer?



Probably, but most likely a case of mental insanity. He sells for absurd prices, forces buyers into situations where they have no route for dispute resolution, lies about the products he sells, and sends back profanity laced emails to his customers who dare complain about absurd handling fees, shipping costs and incorrect descriptions on what he is selling.

He has screwed over tons of people for over 5 years on amiga stuff. He is to be avoided. Never buy anything from this dude, you'll be sorry. I'm surprised he hasn't been put into jail for his behavior.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: dannyp1 on May 04, 2008, 02:48:55 PM
I have to laugh when he states "this is the only time this computer will be listed", and then it doesn't sell and a day later is listed again.
I would bet money that the second internal disk drive that is in the picture is not included in the auction.  He has done this many times, lists items with pictures that are not exactly what you get.  He then claims if it isn't in the description than it isn't part of the auction (even though it is clearly in the picture).
I still think my all time Doomy favorite was when he was selling A1200's that were PAL and not NTSC and didn't put this fact in the description.  When people won these computers and got them and found out they were PAL and complained, he told them that if they wanted to know if they were PAL or NTSC they should have asked before they bid.
Title: Re: FA: Bougs claims on CD drive
Post by: marcfrick2112 on May 04, 2008, 04:29:58 PM
Man, oh man 'up to $800.00' for an A4000 in that condition??? What's Doomy smoking? I paid no more than $500.00 for a 4000 not yellowed, BTW, that was with a WarpEngine / SCSI / 84MB. Even my 'new' 4000 tower with '060/Toaster/Flyer/PAR/TBC4 cost only about $750.00

Gotta be some way to shut this clown down for good... Hmmpf, EBay doesn't seem to care, as long as they get thier money

 :-x