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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Kristian95 on April 26, 2008, 07:24:49 AM
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Ok, I have the card installed. I flashed it with the Kickstart update and added the following Blizkick modules:
NoClick, SpeedyChip, SpeedyIDE.
I noticed that the floppy drives still click. How do I make Blizkick modules work with an eFlash card?
Will SpeedyChip and SpeedyIDE do any good in my A4000T (I use the IDE controller on the motherboard)?
Any other suggestions as to what I should put in the eFlash card?
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I use the noclick module from Luciferin (http://www.platon42.de/index2.html) (Algor/Romulus tool) with my KickFlash. Maybe it will help you too?
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Kristian95 wrote:
Ok, I have the card installed. I flashed it with the Kickstart update and added the following Blizkick modules:
NoClick, SpeedyChip, SpeedyIDE.
I noticed that the floppy drives still click. How do I make Blizkick modules work with an eFlash card?
Will SpeedyChip and SpeedyIDE do any good in my A4000T (I use the IDE controller on the motherboard)?
Any other suggestions as to what I should put in the eFlash card?
AFAIK the eFlash cannot cope with BlizKick modules or patches.
Using my NoClick module is kinda "pirating", but this is not the first time I have to provide for the lacks of Elbox.
SpeedyIDE is a BlizKick patch to the ROM (MapROM) and won't work with either flashrom hardware directly, especially because the ROM Update will include an updated IDE-Device. You can however, easily apply the SpeedyIDE patch to the IDE-Devices in the AmigaOS Rom Update file using a hex editor.
And regarding your IDE controller in your A4000T: You *really* should go for an IDE->SCSI adapter and use the SCSI controller in your A4000T which provides a speed of nearly 10 MB/sec without CPU load instead of 2.3 MB/s (2.6 MB with SpeedyIDE) with 100% CPU load.
SpeedyChip is obsolete with 68060 libraries >V42.
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Pirating!? :lol: You're loonie Mr. Hodges.
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Ah, thanks for the tips on SpeedyIDE and SpeedyChip :)
I'll probably go for IDE-> SCSI adapter sometime... but first I need to have the SCSI CD-ROM working, I know that is noob stuff, but I never had a big box Amiga back in the day so this is a first for me, i.e. a little help will definately be appreciated. The CD-ROM drive is attached to my CSPPC SCSI controller and I have not been able to enter the early boot menu for the CSPPC :(.
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If you have a CSPPC, you should connect all your drives to the SCSI controller on the accelerator. It's much quicker than any of the integrated controllers.
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I plan to do so in the future, once I have it all setup and running, including the SCSI CD-ROM which is attached to the CSPPC SCSI :)
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@adolescent
I tried putting the NoClick from Lucifern in my eFlash but that didn't work either. I've for now installed DosPrefs and that helps once WB is booted.
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as already stated eflash doesnt seem to support patching amiga roms which is just too bad, cause i cant see what other it would be good for. myself i just want to have powerwindows_ng enabled on my computers, since this version seems much more dependable, but blizkick somehow doesnt like mediator and previously patched roms on eflash and gets usually in what seems an endless boot-loop with that. the other general problem with blizkick is that warm reset becomes a matter of luck. mostly i have to power down completely after some system-failure.
well: long story short: i mailed elbox eabout the matter and they seem to try to figure somthing out, but i do not count on that very much. i myself will look into matter how to patch roms in place and maybe burn them on flash-chips as this seems most appropriate.
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there seems to be another hardware similar to eflash from individual computers. i dont know if this contains options missed in the elbox product, but im gonna ask them.
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The kickflash OS4 is just great. way better software, support and features. and u get a clockport too!
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hope so. but im no-ppc-user though.(up till now)
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Kristian95 wrote:
@adolescent
I tried putting the NoClick from Lucifern in my eFlash but that didn't work either. I've for now installed DosPrefs and that helps once WB is booted.
It could be that the eFlash doesn't support DOS-Hunks from Kick 2.0 (e.g. DREL16), you might need to use "StripHunk RELOC32" on the file before it works in the eFlash.
@adolescent:
[ ] You do understand that Luciferin is commercial software package for competitive products by E3B (Highway+Romulus, Algor (Pro) and Deneb) and that using parts of it for Elbox products without owning the E3B product may be considered pirating.
Probably you don't see this, but your sort of people didn't care about the P96 violation by Elbox or the RDB issue either.
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wawrzon wrote:
as already stated eflash doesnt seem to support patching amiga roms which is just too bad, cause i cant see what other it would be good for.
E3B Flashrom products can incorporate custom Kickstart images (e.g. created with RomSplit/Remus for use with a tailored BlizKick romtag. Using this "3.9++" Rom with fixed rom bugs, speedramsey, noclick, alert patch, etc. every day.
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Kristian95 wrote:
Ah, thanks for the tips on SpeedyIDE and SpeedyChip :)
I'll probably go for IDE-> SCSI adapter sometime... but first I need to have the SCSI CD-ROM working, I know that is noob stuff, but I never had a big box Amiga back in the day so this is a first for me, i.e. a little help will definately be appreciated. The CD-ROM drive is attached to my CSPPC SCSI controller and I have not been able to enter the early boot menu for the CSPPC :(.
first do in a shell
version cybppc.device full
and report here (what GFX card you have?)
second ... while i know that an Acard SCSI to IDE adapter, "sounds" expensive, togheter to a cheap 52x ATA CDROM or CDRW , you will get the maximum speed without SCSI2 bottlenecking.
AEC-7720UW for CSPPC (http://www.vesalia.de/e_acard.htm)
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thats exactly what i would advise too. modern ide dvd-writers connencted on acard adapter are by all means superior to any old scsi drives. i hold such in both of my 060a4ks and had never again any problems with writing a cd or whatsoever, which before on native yamaha or hp scsi drive was quite an issue to master..
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I have gotten the CD drive up and running.. it turned out the early boot menu at first was not accessible due to old ROM version, after that I had to press space bar to get out of 31 kHz mode and voila early boot screen :)
As for acard, I would need one acard for every IDE device I want to hook up or is one acard enough ??
Also, what kind of UW SCSI cable would be good ?? I looked at the acards and it seems they need a SCSI cable with male plugs whereas my CSPPC card, my SCSI cd-rom drive (until I might get a new IDE one) need female plugs on the SCSI cable
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an Acard adapter for every device used and not, you don't need any special scsi cable.
Any Acard adapter carries good active termination also, hence you will need only one active terminator close to the CSPPC uwscsi connector.
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yikes, that'll be a fair amount of cash then as I have 2 cf cards that would need an Acard :)
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@platon42:
by the way, if im going to get something from e3b in the near future it will sure be deneb. as you are part of the project, the question i would have is: will its flashrom be able to hold the modified kickstart available at a cold boot too?
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wawrzon wrote:
@platon42:
by the way, if im going to get something from e3b in the near future it will sure be deneb. as you are part of the project, the question i would have is: will its flashrom be able to hold the modified kickstart available at a cold boot too?
If you got a board with MapROM feature (e.g. phase5 boards), sure (there are no other means for a Zorro board to directly mirror the kickstart image at 0xf80000). This works with the Algor and the Romulus already, too. The 4 MB of user flashrom is big enough to hold plenty of stuff (e.g. to boot MorphOS PowerUp).
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@Thread
I have a spare 50-pin ACARD adapter (AEC-7720U) - advertised an Amibay at the moment.
£25 including UK postage - also includes a 68>50 pin adapter.
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platon42: thank you. this might be the solution then, since i got the csmk1'S. the only thing i mistrust a little is mirroring and holding the updated rom in the memory since it seems to cause problems with warm-resets, so maybe i would still have to look @ some replacement that fits in the kickstart socket as alternative
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wawrzon wrote:
platon42: thank you. this might be the solution then, since i got the csmk1'S. the only thing i mistrust a little is mirroring and holding the updated rom in the memory since it seems to cause problems with warm-resets, so maybe i would still have to look @ some replacement that fits in the kickstart socket as alternative
I also have a CS 060 MK I and have no problems with it whatsoever. The RAM on the mainboard that is used for the shadow kickstart image is write protected right after copying and stays this way even across reboots. I've had hardly any problems that would require turning off the machine (there are other and by far worse stability problems created by mechanical fit problems in my machine currently).