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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 05:17:58 PM

Title: 4000 expansion cards not recognized
Post by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 05:17:58 PM
I got my new Prometheus board in today and it doesnt look like the Board Diagnostics menu is recognizing it.  Tried 3 of the 4 zorro slots and still nothing.  I tried it with and without my Voodoo and ethernet cards.  Any advice?

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Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: spirantho on April 24, 2008, 05:36:32 PM
You have connected up the power to the board haven't you?
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 05:39:14 PM
Sure did.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Bazzaq on April 24, 2008, 05:43:26 PM
power connector not seated completely would be first choice for me.

The design is a bit crap.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 05:46:13 PM
I'll bust out the multimeter and make sure its getting the juice.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: redrumloa on April 24, 2008, 06:03:27 PM
Verify orientation of the power connector and verify the card is seated properly.

Make sure you are using the latest diagnostic software as some older revisions will not work with the latest firmware.

BTW: prometheus is not crap my any stretch of the imagination.

Goodluck.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 06:21:27 PM
The power is seated properly.  Need to find my multimeter..  I'm using the Expansion Board Diagnostics under the Early Startup screen, and its not showing up under there or ShowConfig.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Bazzaq on April 24, 2008, 06:31:41 PM
(BTW: prometheus is not crap my any stretch of the imagination. )

i meant the power connector not the actual board.. I have one and it works well, The power connector has been modified though for a better fit.


My tower is in bits at the moment.. but i recall there is a prometheus diagnostic program on the cd or maybe i downloaded it.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: motorollin on April 24, 2008, 06:36:20 PM
Do the zorro slots definitely work?

--
moto
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Bazzaq on April 24, 2008, 06:36:49 PM
try this http://www.matay.pl/developer/en/files/prominfo.lha

other software here too
http://www.matay.pl/developer/en/index.html
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
Multimeter says its getting proper voltage and I have tried PromInfo and it says theres no working prometheus board found.  I know the zorro slots used to work with a Toaster and Flyer setup.  Possible that my daughterboard could be fried?
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: zipper on April 24, 2008, 08:19:45 PM
And you have prometheus.library installed?
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 08:24:22 PM
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zipper wrote:
And you have prometheus.library installed?


Sure do.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 24, 2008, 10:30:30 PM
Tried an old Trumpcard Pro in there and it isnt being found either, so it sounds like its a zorro problem.  Any way to determine if its my daughter board or Buster.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: redrumloa on April 25, 2008, 01:49:19 AM
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Splurge wrote:
Tried an old Trumpcard Pro in there and it isnt being found either, so it sounds like its a zorro problem.  Any way to determine if its my daughter board or Buster.


Yeah, does sound like a problem with the Amiga itself :-/ Maybe try removing the daughter board and cleaning the contacts :-?
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 25, 2008, 02:01:35 AM
yeah, tried cleaning it already.  Going to pull and reseat the buster tomorrow.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on April 25, 2008, 02:26:07 PM
Reseated buster and still nothing.  Anyone possibly have a buster I can test out, even if its a Rev 9?  I'm running out of ideas...
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: redrumloa on April 25, 2008, 03:10:49 PM
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Splurge wrote:
Reseated buster and still nothing.  Anyone possibly have a buster I can test out, even if its a Rev 9?  I'm running out of ideas...


Do you happen to have a service manual for the A4000? It has been a long time for me, but I seem to remember the A3000 having multiple fuses on the motherboard and I'd assume the A4000 is the same. They don't don't look like your typical glass tube fuses, so a service manual to reference would be helpful. I'd also suggest testing power supply voltages.

Just a thought, sorry I don't have more to add at this time.
Title: Re: Busted Prometheus on 4000D?
Post by: Splurge on May 02, 2008, 03:44:05 PM
Well, still no luck.  Tried an old Rev9 Buster and it still wont recognize any expansion cards.  Other than the daughterboard, I'm out of ideas.  I swapped the 7407 chip on it and checked the autoconfig traces.  Anyone have a daughterboard I could borrow or buy?  I'm beyond frustrated now.
Title: 4000 expansion cards not recognized
Post by: Splurge on May 05, 2008, 10:10:04 PM
Changed the subject of this thread.

Well still no luck.  Replaced both the 7432 and 7404 ICs on the daughterboard.  Checked all the traces and everything seems to be fine on the daughterboard.

Followed this writeup and still nothing is recognized.
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/a4000hard/excrdnot.html

Anyone have a similar problem?  The 4000 works just fine otherwise.  Swapped Busters, cleaned contacts, checked voltage...  Is there any other chip I should look at swapping?