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Title: There has to be a better way
Post by: Marcb on April 17, 2008, 01:21:45 PM
Yesterday I missed out on an A3000 on ebay...

It was located only a 15 min. drive away, looked to be in good condition and alongside the A2000 I bought from Xamiche was something completely beyond my reach when it was new and I was much younger.
The winning bidder bid more than I did... in the last 30 seconds  :-D

Tough luck really, I would have gladly won it the same way but I can't help think that there has to be a better way of pursuing this hobby/obsession ...
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: tokyoracer on April 17, 2008, 01:42:54 PM
Don't bother, I got some gear via a wanted ad in the local free ads, got loads of gear at the price I thought was worth paying rather then the ones on eBay. That's how I got my tower.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Marcb on April 17, 2008, 02:10:42 PM
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tokyoracer wrote:
Don't bother, I got some gear via a wanted ad in the local free ads, got loads of gear at the price I thought was worth paying rather then the ones on eBay. That's how I got my tower.


Mate, that's a great idea! I actually work at a local paper and it never occured to me.
I'll give it a whirl next week...
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Xamiche on April 17, 2008, 02:45:07 PM
I tried the local paper route here in WA when I first started collecting, but I only ever found Amiga 500s. There just isn't enough equipment out there in my local. I hope it's better on the east coast, but you have to remember the Amigas, beyond the stock standard 500, are uncommon to rare here in Australia. The only guy still selling Amiga stuff here on the west coast is that Amiga Innovations guy, and he charges like a wounded bull. Quite frankly ebays prices are cheaper than his prices.

If I see a 3000 in good nick around Marcb I'll let you know, but the chances aren't good. In all my years of Amiga collecting I've never seen a single 3000 for sale here.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Psy on April 17, 2008, 03:18:43 PM
Vast majority I found through online classified like craigslist is the Amiga 500.  One time at the same time there was a Amiga 1200 for sale and in another ad Amiga 3000 for sale, both had a CD Burner, network card and a harddrive with 3.1 already installed but I was unemployed and poor at the time, now that I have money I've never seen anything like that for sale locally.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: adolescent on April 17, 2008, 03:19:59 PM
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Marcb wrote:
The winning bidder bid more than I did... in the last 30 seconds  :-D


If you bid what you are willing to pay, not the lowest possible bid at the time, then the 30 minutes won't matter.    I know the early bid strategy isn't as popular as sniping, but it's saved me tons of money on impulse bids over the years (and, it's not like the snipers EVER got anything cheaper than my highest offer so...)  
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Xamiche on April 17, 2008, 03:24:12 PM
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adolescent wrote:
If you bid what you are willing to pay, not the lowest possible bid at the time, then the 30 minutes won't matter.    I know the early bid strategy isn't as popular as sniping, but it's saved me tons of money on impulse bids over the years (and, it's not like the snipers EVER got anything cheaper than my highest offer so...)  

I agree. I'm an early bidder too. I figure out what I'm willing to pay and place a bid for that amount. If it gets over-bid, then I'm out. Impulse bidding is bad news.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: tokyoracer on April 17, 2008, 03:37:49 PM
I got 7 A500's, 2 A600's, 1 A1200, 1 A1200T and loads of cables, disks, books, VHS's, you name it. It's worth a go at-least. I havn't ever had a call from any A#000 series owners.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: persia on April 17, 2008, 03:44:48 PM
I've always considered an early bid on Ebay to be one that's done at 15 seconds left...
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Marcb on April 17, 2008, 11:24:32 PM
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persia wrote:
I've always considered an early bid on Ebay to be one that's done at 15 seconds left...


It was you! :lol:

@ Xamiche

Thanks, I did a completed listing search on Ebay for the 3000 and it came up with 0 results so I guess it is rare!

@adolescent

Yeah, that's the sensible thing to do, I always start out that way (setting myself a limit) but 9 times out of 10 I exceed my limit... on this ocassion the 3000 went for A$125 over what I was originally prepared to pay..


@Psy

That's exactly what I meant, I now can afford to buy one (at a reasonable price) but it's still out of reach!

I was thinking we need something in OZ that's a bit more gentlemanly a la Amibay...

Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: jlmjr1957 on April 17, 2008, 11:38:22 PM
Check the thrift stores (second hand stores that sell for charities) in your area. I found an A2000 with kb and monitor for $5 a couple of years ago. They also get tons of the TI-99 and C-64 stuff.

Good luck,

-JM
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Retro_71 on April 18, 2008, 12:59:23 AM
I had my eye on that and the Broken A3000 board which went for $142 btw...... I bought my A3000 from the USA cost me US$285 BUT spent US$480 in Shipping...  :getmad: (since i wanted a A3000 to finish off my collection (well that what i tell my wife anyway..... ;-) ) massive clean happening to it now as well as fixing the battery leak... (just can't win).
Anyway eBay prices are just going to keep going up and up. I have tried the ad and pawn shop route but all i got was A500 (bare systems).
I would really like a CDTV to finsih off my collection and maybe a A3000 and A4000. (OH hell just give me them ALL I'll get a new house and put everything there... :-D  (proof that as collectors one can NEVER STOP.....)
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Retro_71 on April 18, 2008, 01:01:25 AM
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jlmjr1957 wrote:
Check the thrift stores (second hand stores that sell for charities) in your area. I found an A2000 with kb and monitor for $5 a couple of years ago. They also get tons of the TI-99 and C-64 stuff.

Good luck,

-JM


Where do you live tell me !!!!!! I want more!!  :lol:
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Marcb on April 18, 2008, 01:40:09 AM
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Retro_71 wrote:
I had my eye on that and the Broken A3000 board which went for $142 btw...... I bought my A3000 from the USA cost me US$285 BUT spent US$480 in shipping. . .


Jeez, and I was worried about telling  my wife about A$300!
I am bookmarking this post to use in future arguments .

( BTW Xamiche has a CDTV for sale )
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Xamiche on April 18, 2008, 03:22:27 AM
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Marcb wrote:
( BTW Xamiche has a CDTV for sale )

Not anymore. It sold.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Retro_71 on April 18, 2008, 03:44:59 AM
What the wife doesn't know, won't kill me  :-D
Currently i am saving for Rob's OCS/ECS FF/SD and Jens New A1200 FF/SD, I hope he does one for the A4000 soon too. NatAmi And CloneA (just don't tell my wife this  :-) ), Also another A4000 all under her nose....  8-)  :-P  :lol:

Yeah i saw Xamiche CDTV was too slow... but have my eye on some other stuff (You guy's leave them alone!!!  :-D ) on eBay.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: CaptChaos on April 18, 2008, 04:00:43 AM
As of June this year ebay.com.au will only allow you to pay for items in one of two ways:

Cash on pickup
Paypal

Its time for an australian craigslist, evilbay's days in this country are numbered.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Xamiche on April 18, 2008, 05:03:04 AM
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CaptChaos wrote:
As of June this year ebay.com.au will only allow you to pay for items in one of two ways:

Cash on pickup
Paypal

Its time for an australian craigslist, evilbay's days in this country are numbered.

Yeah. It sucks hard. I'm out of eBay now. I've found an Aussie auction site called OZtion (http://www.oztion.com.au/). I'll be using them from now on. Though I will miss eBay's reach. I've never found an auction site with as much vintage computer gear as them, but I cannot allow myself to use eBay any more. This move of theirs is greed pure and simple. Since eBay own Paypal this is blatant double dipping. Sellers are going to pass the extra fees onto the buyers by inflating the P&H costs, you can count on it.

There have been several complaints to the ACCC about this move. People are saying this breaks the third line forcing regs, but since eBay own Paypal it doesn't break any regulations. Now we know why eBay fought tooth and nail to acquire Paypal. You just watch, eBay will be trying to acquire a freight company next, if they haven't already, so they can force sellers to only use their freight services too. Mark my words.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: kreciu on April 18, 2008, 05:23:06 AM
Hi... it's easy to say ebay is bad (I now more reason why is BAD not only the prices...)

Trouble with ebay is that there are people with "cash" who just buy the stuff... and than SELL for HUGE money. I think some of the don't even touch the stuff.

Trouble with me "I don't have" money but I like Amiga. Bad combination? Yes. I know.

For me ebay is only one "safe" way to sell stuff or buy it.

I was in all thrift stores in town... once I found old Mac ;) for $10 (no monitor) no Amiga's.

But you gave me idea I will ask in newspapers, maybe some lack.

It would be good to find a A1200 motherboard since mine is getting to be "old" (anybody has new one ;)? ), I have one more "replacement" but...
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: Xamiche on April 18, 2008, 07:37:59 AM
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kreciu wrote:
Hi... it's easy to say ebay is bad (I now more reason why is BAD not only the prices...)

Trouble with ebay is that there are people with "cash" who just buy the stuff... and than SELL for HUGE money. I think some of the don't even touch the stuff.

Trouble with me "I don't have" money but I like Amiga. Bad combination? Yes. I know.

For me ebay is only one "safe" way to sell stuff or buy it.

I was in all thrift stores in town... once I found old Mac ;) for $10 (no monitor) no Amiga's.

But you gave me idea I will ask in newspapers, maybe some lack.

It would be good to find a A1200 motherboard since mine is getting to be "old" (anybody has new one ;)? ), I have one more "replacement" but...

Wait until eBay start enforcing Paypal use in your country then tell me it's not bad. It really isn't easy to say 'eBay is bad'. In fact I find it very hard to say. Especially since I have relied on eBay so much in the last 10 years as both seller and buyer. Up to this change in policy, I've been very happy with eBay's services, despite the hike in fees. But I just cannot see eBay's move to enforce Paypal as anything but greed. A month or two ago, the eBay CEO was saying that bad deals on eBay were minimal and that they represented a small part of the eBay experience. I actually agreed with that. I have yet to have an overwhelmingly bad experience on eBay. However, this month eBay are saying that the Paypal enforcement is to increase security and protect customers. One month they're saying everything is okay, the next they're saying they need to introduce new security measures to protect the customer. What a crock.

Don't mistake my view. I don't think Paypal is necessarily a bad thing. In fact I think it's a good thing for people who choose to use it, but 'choose' is the operative word. eBay has sneaked around the third line forcing laws by buying Paypal, but it may not be enough. The ACCC is reviewing eBay's new policy for legality. I can only hope that the ACCC wont allow eBay to extort more fees from already fee laden customers.
Title: Re: There has to be a better way
Post by: swoslover on April 20, 2008, 11:40:23 AM
Ebay do have their own parcel company, www.parcel2go.com.

It uses DHL and FEDex.

Its prices are very reasonable though.