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Title: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: rkauer on April 17, 2008, 12:06:47 AM
 Like the title said, I found a page with all E. Schwartz anims!

 The anims are visible even for non-Amiga computers (read PC and Mac, or whatsoever), directly on page, but with a little "plus": all anims are available to download in their original form!:banana:

 Oops! I almost forgot the obligatory linkie link! (http://www.randelshofer.ch/animations/anims/eric_w_schwartz/thu_eric_w_schwartzVE.html)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: bloodline on April 17, 2008, 12:11:34 AM
"All of 'em" :-)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: rkauer on April 17, 2008, 12:14:11 AM
 Hey, english is not my birth language. Be patient with me.;-)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: ddniUK on April 17, 2008, 12:20:45 AM
This is a great site. I was looking at it last week.
It features many many famous Amigan artists work.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: bloodline on April 17, 2008, 11:24:29 AM
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rkauer wrote:
 Hey, english is not my birth language. Be patient with me.;-)


Well, technically " 'em " isn't a valid contraction either... but it will be understood by most English speakers... I wasn't getting at you, I just didn't understand what you meant at first :-)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: tokyoracer on April 17, 2008, 12:55:28 PM
Excellent! All of them are a good laugh now and then.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: pyrre on April 17, 2008, 01:01:14 PM
They miss the anim "back from the beach" featuring flip the frog and amy...
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: novaburst on April 17, 2008, 01:57:14 PM
Great stuff, thank you for the link!
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: tiffers on April 17, 2008, 02:44:06 PM
Should there be sound?
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: starf81 on April 17, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
Great link, thank you!

But unfortunately I can't download the latest Eric's video (the Amiga Tribute) in any Amiga compatible format. I'd like to play it with e real Amiga!
Do you know another source?
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: AndreasM on April 17, 2008, 03:09:35 PM
@starf81

http://download.amigafuture.de
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: starf81 on April 17, 2008, 03:17:14 PM
@ AndreasM

Thank you but this is the mp4 file and it should be only playable on modern computers.
Since Eric did the animation on his A4000T, what I'm looking for is the original Amiga video file to play it directly on my A1200.

Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: AndreasM on April 17, 2008, 03:20:16 PM
I ask Eric and when we get any i make it available on our download-page, too
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: starf81 on April 17, 2008, 03:21:36 PM
Great!
Please don't forget to let us know when it will be available!  :-D
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: yorgle on April 17, 2008, 04:29:58 PM
I'd love to know the work flow/process used to create this version of the animations for the web.  I've got some files I'd like to put online like this, rather than converting them to video and back again.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: motorollin on April 17, 2008, 07:21:33 PM
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bloodline wrote:
Well, technically " 'em " isn't a valid contraction either...

Why not?

--
moto
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: platon42 on April 17, 2008, 09:06:08 PM
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starf81 wrote:
Great link, thank you!

But unfortunately I can't download the latest Eric's video (the Amiga Tribute) in any Amiga compatible format. I'd like to play it with e real Amiga!
Do you know another source?


I'm working at it.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: bloodline on April 17, 2008, 11:27:10 PM
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motorollin wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
Well, technically " 'em " isn't a valid contraction either...

Why not?

--
moto


Dunno ;-)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27#Apostrophe_showing_omission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27#Non-standard_English_use

The use of the apostrophe is a minefield in English... though I am of the opinion that as long as you can be understood it doesn't matter... It's nice to have a some rules :-)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: rkauer on April 17, 2008, 11:32:32 PM
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platon42 wrote:

I'm working at it.


 Great news! All I want is those two videos (Walk in the park & Still Alive) in an original Amiga anim format.(http://www.amigabr.org/uploads/smil47d44bc252666.gif)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: AndreasM on April 18, 2008, 07:45:43 AM
@platon42

hmm, wait. i think Eric have a file
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: motorollin on April 18, 2008, 08:10:39 AM
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bloodline wrote:
Dunno ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27#Apostrophe_showing_omission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27#Non-standard_English_use

Hmmm: "In modern usage, apostrophes are generally omitted when letters are removed from the start of a word". I don't agree that this should be the case, though I agree that it is common practice.

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bloodline wrote:
The use of the apostrophe is a minefield in English...

I don't think so. Use it to show possession or elision... easy :-)

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bloodline wrote:
though I am of the opinion that as long as you can be understood it doesn't matter...

Heathen! :madashell:  :-x

;-)

--
moto
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: ravepants on April 18, 2008, 09:03:41 AM
Nice find,

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: AndreasM on April 18, 2008, 09:32:42 AM
The answer from Eric:

Not yet, though I am working on it. It shouldn't be too difficult, as the
animation itself isn't too demanding, though playing it snyced to gether
with the sound might be. I'm looking into player options.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: platon42 on April 19, 2008, 04:13:33 PM
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AndreasM wrote:

> hmm, wait. i think Eric have a file

The answer from Eric:

Not yet, though I am working on it. It shouldn't be too difficult, as the
animation itself isn't too demanding, though playing it snyced to gether
with the sound might be. I'm looking into player options.


Sure Eric has that file, and he's kindly sent it to me some weeks ago. I'm currently writing a player because the (lip-)sync has to be kept at all times and the audio playback frequency is not 100% synced to the frequency of the display. In fact, e.g. Paula cannot play at exactly 44.1 KHz or 22.05 KHz rate, and the PAL or NTSC are not exactly 50 Hz or 60 Hz either. Also MP3 playback is a no-no for the slow amigas, so I've written playback routines for IMA ADPCM. This morning was able to get 16 bit audio playback via AHI and video playback from my custom anim format with slightly better compression than anim5 (3.53 MB vs. 2.50 MB and further crunched down to 1.67 MB using LZ77), but the syncing is missing (and maybe also double buffering, but that might not be necessary for this nearly black & white animation).
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: Waran on April 20, 2008, 01:15:56 AM
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yorgle wrote:
I'd love to know the work flow/process used to create this version of the animations for the web.  I've got some files I'd like to put online like this, rather than converting them to video and back again.


The applet used on this site is able to play original Amiga IFF ANIM files directly, you don't need to convert your files.

It plays ANIM-5, ANIM-7, ANIM-8 and ANIM-J codecs and supports all Amiga display modes (OCS, ECS and AGA). You can download ANIMApplet (http://www.randelshofer.ch/animapplet/download.html) for free and use it for your own web projects.

ANIM files can be compressed (zipped) to reduce loading time. With this technique the clips will load almost immediately, like Flash movies. The zipped ANIMs you may find at the bottom of each page is actually the file the applet is playing.

BTW  the applet can even handle the 'Pingpong' mode of ancient ANIM-J files. Check this out:
The classic Byte-by-Byte demo Kahnankas (http://www.randelshofer.ch/animations/anims/various_artists/Kahnankas.html) from 1987!
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: Waran on April 20, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
I am always looking for great animations for this site. I am very interested in classics from the early years of the Amiga and work that showed off the major graphics capabilities of the Amiga in that time.

The goal of the site is to show amazing clips created with Amiga computers. I am also interested in new stuff. Unfortunately original ANIM source files are hard to find, because these days they usually are converted into other video formats. In many cases the converted files become huge and the images often look very blurry or have ugly compression glitches.

Let me know if you do have awesome ANIMs that are missing here or clips you would love to see on this page.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'EM!
Post by: rkauer on April 23, 2008, 05:39:53 AM
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Waran wrote:
I am always looking for great animations for this site. I am very interested in classics from the early years of the Amiga and work that showed off the major graphics capabilities of the Amiga in that time.

The goal of the site is to show amazing clips created with Amiga computers. I am also interested in new stuff. Unfortunately original ANIM source files are hard to find, because these days they usually are converted into other video formats. In many cases the converted files become huge and the images often look very blurry or have ugly compression glitches.

Let me know if you do have awesome ANIMs that are missing here or clips you would love to see on this page.


 Good to know you want some anim files. I have a friend who did some good anims back in the day. He leave the Amiga platform, unfortunately (like many others did). But I can contact him to give you a "licence" to show his work. He also put some of his animations on aminet, about a decade ago.

 PM me if you are interested.

 BTW: nice program! I'll test it and return some feedback to you.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: rkauer on April 23, 2008, 05:44:59 AM
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pyrre wrote:
They miss the anim "back from the beach" featuring flip the frog and amy...


 "Back from the beach" is not Eric's work! He already stated that in some animation forums around the world!

 And yes, I like to see it. Even if it is not from the talented animator/cartoonist we learn to like.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: persia on April 23, 2008, 02:14:30 PM
Ah, back to the days of my youth.  You can sit and watch these videos and think that it's 1989 again!  Thanks for the memories...

(http://www.spiralfrog.com/sfimages/covers/pop/cov200/drd300/d376/d376470wg8x.jpg)
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: platon42 on June 22, 2008, 09:59:36 PM
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rkauer wrote:
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platon42 wrote:

I'm working at it.


 Great news! All I want is those two videos (Walk in the park & Still Alive) in an original Amiga anim format.(http://www.amigabr.org/uploads/smil47d44bc252666.gif)


Not exactly in original anim format, but amiga native playback:

http://www.platon42.de/cgi-local/navbar.pl?0000&download.html#demos
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: rkauer on June 23, 2008, 02:04:14 AM
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platon42 wrote:

Not exactly in original anim format, but amiga native playback:



 Wow! Chris, thanks a lot for that, m8!:bow:

 Exactly what I want.
Title: Re: Eric Animations: ALL OF 'HEM!
Post by: Atheist on June 23, 2008, 05:24:02 AM
This one (http://www.randelshofer.ch/animations/anims/electronic_arts/TheTour.animVE.html) is incredible (as they all are, actually!)

So simple, and yet it ISN'T! But, it IS!

THIS is the Amiga I remember, creativity, exploration, FUN, and NatAmi60 is going to be a dream come true! (Even IF it costs $1,300, so-be-it!!)