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Title: PSP and UAE
Post by: McVenco on April 14, 2008, 09:28:55 PM
I want to give PSPUAE a try, but I just can't seem to find out what kind of firmware I need (or how to install that) - one site mentions firmware v1.5x and the other one is talking about custom firmware v3.xx M33 or god knows what they are called. Currently I've got 3.9x (if I'm correct - battery's empty so I can't check right now).

I just want to run some third party software like PSPUAE or other emulators if available, and a browser (I understand this thing has some sort of WLAN/WiFi on board).

I'm a complete n00b with the PSP so any general help is welcome. Most important is to run UAE.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: SamOS39 on April 14, 2008, 09:54:02 PM
You need to downgrade and since you have a firmware higher than 3.7 the only way you can downgrade is with pandoras battery ..
so ive read..
I am in the same situasion but i havent had chance to try this out.

Pandoras battery is a software that resets the piece of memory built into the battery, the only wayto do it though is to borrow a friends PSP (downgraded), and stick the your battery in it and run the software.
once the software is finished .. you take the battery out andput it backinyour one, load up and hey presto youve downgraded ..

I havent tried it myself though this is only fromwhat i have read ..

I think your asking on the wrong forum though ..
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: nine3o on April 14, 2008, 09:54:49 PM
Hi McVenco,

Do you have a newer PSP (thiner style with no eject button) or the older style PSP (it's beefier in size and has an eject button to release the UMD drive bay)

What they are refering to for firmware, V1.5x is the most hackable version and you can pretty much run anything you want.  If you have a slim line PSP, there is currently no way to back flash it to this code level (it is being worked on tho).  V3.xx M33 is a hacked firmware version that allows you play home brew files and god forbid pirated games!!!  :)

Again, if this is a newer PSP you will need what is called Pandora's box (it's a battery with a hack in it), and possibly another PSP with a hacked firmware on it (depending on the firmware level)

I can send you more details off line if you like, PM me with details you need clarification on or procedure on how to back flash.

Also, if you are at the latest firmware release, you may not be able to flash it to a hackable code (not sure been a while since I have been hacking PSP's) but can get that information for you.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: SamOS39 on April 14, 2008, 10:01:44 PM
snap!  :-D
but i forgot to mention that slimline and the older ones are different  :roll:

I have a bulky one with firmware version 3.90 ..

you seem to know more than me, theres a PM coming your way soon  ;-)
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: monami on April 14, 2008, 11:04:16 PM
i have a slim psp. i spent ages trying to understand what to get and what to do and gave up. i bought a kit off ebay. a mem card and pandora battery from china. it cost £20 but was worth it. you could always sell it on but i'm keeping mine. search for "pandora psp" or custom firmware (cfw.) on ebay. best of luck.

i forgot to say it was a one button operation. it boots and says something or other and you press a button job done. easy after all the reading you can do! :crazy:
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: amigadave on April 15, 2008, 02:44:10 AM
@monami,

Can you give us a bit more of a review of the performance and compatibility of your PSP running UAE?  What games work, how well do the the PSP controls emulate an Amiga joystick and/or mouse.  Can any games that require type written passwords be played and how are you able to enter such passwords?

PSP has wifi, right?  It also has a web browser, correct?  My wife's oldest child from another marriage has one, but I never looked at it closely.  If the PSP has a few utilities, like a calculator, date book, address book, email capability, web browsing, etc. such that it could replace my very old Palm Zire that I use seldom, I would consider getting one.  The Zire does not have wifi, internet, or email, but I use the weak camera and the date book/alarm features some times.

Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: WOWZER on April 15, 2008, 03:47:28 AM
UAE on the PSP is not very stable although it has gotten better with each version. It emulates a standard A500 with OCS. There is a on screen keyboard that you can pull up to type on. Not all games will run on it and it crashes alot.

It will play Nuke War very well though and thats a plus.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: XDelusion on April 17, 2008, 06:01:14 AM
I just picked up a PSP slim just for this purpose.
 From what I read you need to open up your battery and remove a leg from one of the pins to do this...

...well I opened my battery, but thankfully the tutorial did not warn me that there are thin power cables near the bottom of the pack that can easily be sliced...

...and well I sliced it.

 On top of this they did not mention in the tutorial that some batteries are encased in a silver bagging.
 I figured to get to the circuit board they showed in there tutorials I would have to remove the silver bagging...

...well low and behold, something dripped out, burned my hand, gave my nose a bit of stress, then began to smoke.

 Guess I'm out to lay down $45 for another battery to mess up.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: motorollin on April 17, 2008, 06:29:56 AM
Get a GP2X instead :-P

--
moto
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: McVenco on April 17, 2008, 07:21:51 AM
Quote

nine3o wrote:

Do you have a newer PSP or the older style PSP

V3.xx M33 is a hacked firmware version that allows you play home brew files and god forbid pirated games!!!  :)

I can send you more details off line if you like, PM me with details you need clarification on or procedure on how to back flash.


I've got an "old" PSP, and I'm not planning to run pirated games on it - I don't really like those modern games anyway (well, maybe GTA, but that gets boring after an hour as well) - so I thought it could be a pretty cool UAE gamedevice instead.

I will only need to find myself an adapter first since I got the PSP without one, and the battery's dead already.

But if you have any tips, PMs are welcome :-)
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: Floid on April 17, 2008, 08:18:21 AM
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XDelusion wrote:

 On top of this they did not mention in the tutorial that some batteries are encased in a silver bagging.
 I figured to get to the circuit board they showed in there tutorials I would have to remove the silver bagging...

...well low and behold, something dripped out, burned my hand, gave my nose a bit of stress, then began to smoke.

 Guess I'm out to lay down $45 for another battery to mess up.


 :shocked:  :getmad:  :shocked:

Yikes!

Kids, Datel / Codejunkies have been selling a commercial 'service tool' battery for ages.  Looks like they now also have a slightly cheaper device to flash existing batteries back and forth.  (Note that the color code is orange based on the color of the original "Pandora's Battery" Sony accidentally leaked out with a repaired unit.)

http://us.codejunkies.com/Departments/PSP.aspx
http://uk.codejunkies.com/Departments/PSP.aspx

These shouldn't be particularly illict -- IIRC, it's a magic serial number that enables the service mode, and the magic serial number is something like all-zeroes.  

It'd be hard to even interpret that as a DMCA violation here in the US, since it's a general service mode, not a direct circumvention of a copy-protection mechanism.

Of course, once you have the ability to pop the PSP into service mode, the only useful thing [for an average user] to do is install firmware that allows unsigned/homebrew code to run, and distributing a full firmware image based on hacked-up Sony code is pretty much bound to violate their copyright.  [In other words, I don't think you become a criminal until you pass that binary on.  The creators of the binaries are cagey because, for the convenience of the world, they're distributing full images that include Sony code.]

If you could get that as a cleanroom diff to apply to an image of the firmware that came with your unit, everything would probably be kosher -- you're just making use of the hardware you paid for -- at least until you start making "backups" of UMDs.  I don't remember having to agree to any EULA to open the box and start playing, so I think basic copyright law is what applies here.  Of course, I am not a lawyer, YMMV, check with yours before making a business model out of this. :-D

...

As noted, the battery hack applies to the Slim'n'Lite because the old models come with firmware that can be exploited through simpler means.  Again IIRC, you can always back out to the 'factory' firmware through some reset mechanism (definitely confirm this first, my memory is rough), so an upgraded original model shouldn't require a trick battery but the Slim'n'Lite will, and will again if you revert it back to the factory baseline.

The above is my understanding as of a few months ago.  I picked up a Slim'n'Lite but haven't actually tried any of this myself, since I barely even have time to play games on it!  (Anyone have docs on using Sony's paid downloads from *NIX / without the silly Windows 'loader' software they require?)
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: Floid on April 17, 2008, 08:27:26 AM
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amigadave wrote:

PSP has wifi, right?  It also has a web browser, correct?  My wife's oldest child from another marriage has one, but I never looked at it closely.  If the PSP has a few utilities, like a calculator, date book, address book, email capability, web browsing, etc. such that it could replace my very old Palm Zire that I use seldom, I would consider getting one.  The Zire does not have wifi, internet, or email, but I use the weak camera and the date book/alarm features some times.


It does have 802.11 (b in the original, the Slim may be g?) and a browser.  There might be a calendar and alarm clock buried somewhere but it's not really geared to the other utilities (until you go homebrew), which is a shame.  Also, the camera is an addon that, as of many months ago, hadn't made it out of Japan.

You could try using web-based apps for contacts, etc., but the input system is roughly as much fun as entering your name on a high score screen.

Edit:  Now that I think of it, there are rumors of a third-generation one in the works, though it may not be out for quite some time.  Given the magnitude of the changes in the Slim'n'Lite -- double the RAM, though mostly used for disk cache right now, the possible wifi improvement, and the way they went from bundling a few-MB of Memory Stick flash to a full 1GB  -- I think they're feeling it out as a 'platform'/application and thinking about integrating it into a phone, which would probably have the applications you want on the phone side.  Of course, we heard all this during the last round of convergence hysteria, but these days the hardware is condensing that much faster than software can keep up, and with the race down to Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft, I don't think Sony will have a reason to ship an entirely new-and-incompatible handheld until developers actually take advantage of what they've provided here.  (See also: the gripes about compatibility between the PS2 and PS3 when they pulled the silicon out of the export versions of the latter, and the extraordinary longevity and profitability of the original Game Boy through its compatible incarnations.)  
At least, that's the excuse to use to keep your money in your pocket if you don't need a shiny but marginally-useful toy.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: mikrucio on September 10, 2008, 07:15:50 AM
Hey guys.

yeah i got a psp with custom firmware 3.8m33 at the moment. Iv got a 16gb memory stick full of psp games, emulators snes full speed, genesis full speed, c64 full speed, and others, fine homebrew games and remakes. plus it plays ALL playstation 1 games. full web browser via wifi and all sorts of other goodies. it's awesome fun.
playing C64 games on it so great. the screen looks wonderful and it all runs beautifully.

however PSPUAE is still in development and i think the only thing that will speed up the develepment process is COLD HARD CASH!

so head of to http://pspuae.condor.serverpro3.com/
and give the team some money.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: Ni72ous on September 10, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
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mikrucio wrote:

snes full speed


What snes emu are you using as snes sure aint full speed on my psp :(

Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: mikrucio on September 11, 2008, 12:03:37 AM
snes 9x TYL. make sure you set 333mhz.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: F0LLETT on May 05, 2009, 10:54:59 PM
Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I saw this and had to reply.

COLD HARD CASH as its been put will not speed up the process. Im working on it on my own now, and im struggling. I have been on my own for over a year now. Besides, I only do it for the love of the Amiga, not fame or profit.

I would love some coders with asm, 68k and mips to help. None seem interested, I beleive the PSP can go to full speed using the 68k ASM core. I just dont understand the registers enough to add it.

If people want to help with coding, please let me know.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: foleyjo on May 06, 2009, 12:24:50 PM
Hey Follett its great to know someone is actually working on UAE for PSP. Have you tried consulting the devs of UAE on GP2X and Pandora. You may be able to adapt their code.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: F0LLETT on May 06, 2009, 08:00:22 PM
Already tried, and was accussed of stealing devs. We were sharing info, how this was confused as stealing a dev is beyond me, :).

I think I would get a reply something like, "I dont have a PSP so I couldnt help you". Tends to be the general trend.

At the moment, PSPUAE is faster than PSP UAE4ALL. The only thing PSP UAE4ALL HAS over PSPUAE is better sound. Believe it or not there is nothing wrong with the sound in PSPUAE, its just the volume level, its so loud it causes some things to sound like its crackling.

I was going to continue work on the next version, but it seems Bindows Vista will not compile FAME/C version, kills mem and crashes GCC. So need to switch back to XP, :).

It would be great if coders from the Miggy community could help, :).
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: F0LLETT on August 09, 2009, 02:41:11 PM
Just to update,

Im still working on PSPUAE, and I also started helping with WiiUAE. WiiUAE has helped me work out a few problems I had in PSPUAE.

I now have AGA working and the frame limiter (sort of) working. Im hoping to get HDD's working next.
Title: Re: PSP and UAE
Post by: F0LLETT on June 09, 2014, 08:48:41 PM
And Im still working on this 5 years on, :).
If any devs want to help with it, give me a shout.

I have learnt so much more since my last post on this. Just abit stuck on a floppy bug thats appeared from no where. So trying to resolve that before proceeding.